RE: Ford F-150 Raptor: Driven
Discussion
StefanVXR8 said:
fblm said:
The ranger raptor does look very cool. In the US the boggo Ranger has a 2.3l ecoboost which is easily good for 300bhp+ so if the ranger raptor is a hit it might be an option although it looks like there isn't a plan to sell it in the US so we might be stuck with the miserable ROW spec diseasel.
Looks like it might happen...http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2018/02/09/ford-perfor...
powerstroke said:
Wills2 said:
No apparently it has a 2.0 diesel in it !!! Wills2 said:
powerstroke said:
Wills2 said:
No apparently it has a 2.0 diesel in it !!! fblm said:
StefanVXR8 said:
fblm said:
The ranger raptor does look very cool. In the US the boggo Ranger has a 2.3l ecoboost which is easily good for 300bhp+ so if the ranger raptor is a hit it might be an option although it looks like there isn't a plan to sell it in the US so we might be stuck with the miserable ROW spec diseasel.
Looks like it might happen...http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2018/02/09/ford-perfor...
It's logical to assume, however, that UK punters will be offered the four-cylinder diesel that is specified for Rest-of-World Ranger Raptors. This will be less costly to run than the aforementioned petrols and might be lower in CO2; it will also help Ford to maintain a degree of simplicity in things like manufacturing, logistics, and servicing.
In the original article, published in Australia, the chief engineer at Ford says, "most American off-roaders would actually prefer a petrol gas engine, but a diesel is the absolute way to go for the rest of the world."
As the UK market can offer Ford a larger percentage of sales volume than most Rest-of-World countries, it's logical to conclude that Ford's intention for the UK is based on the diesel.
Ford knows that some Rest-of-World consumers will be asking for more output than the diesel offers, and they are already on the public relations offensive, declaring that Ranger Raptor "is not about the engine."
Having read the review twice and watching this weeks grand tour I would conclude that the raptor is in fact the perfect car for the UK.
1.It is universally agreed to soak up all road imperfections so it would be the only car on sale suitable for British B roads in winter!
2. Oncoming vehicles with blinding laser lights could be flashed by a massive spot light bar on the roof
3. Oncoming vehicles who insist on driving in the middle of the road to avoid the worst pot holes would be more inclined to get out the way. What’s more it’s lhd so if you did hit a cayenne on a B road you probably wouldn’t notice.
4. The back is a suitable size for a pram and some basic small child paraphernalia. Nappies, bikes etc
5. It is built for off road so the pot holes in our roads wouldn’t knacker it’s ball joints and wheel bearings quite as quickly as they do on our native cars.
Did I mention the poor state of our roads in the UK? It would appear that local council funding is going to completely disappear this year for road maintenance, so any pot holes cultivated this winter are only due to get worse this year. I guess that means less sports bikes on the roads though as riders will be killed far quicker.
1.It is universally agreed to soak up all road imperfections so it would be the only car on sale suitable for British B roads in winter!
2. Oncoming vehicles with blinding laser lights could be flashed by a massive spot light bar on the roof
3. Oncoming vehicles who insist on driving in the middle of the road to avoid the worst pot holes would be more inclined to get out the way. What’s more it’s lhd so if you did hit a cayenne on a B road you probably wouldn’t notice.
4. The back is a suitable size for a pram and some basic small child paraphernalia. Nappies, bikes etc
5. It is built for off road so the pot holes in our roads wouldn’t knacker it’s ball joints and wheel bearings quite as quickly as they do on our native cars.
Did I mention the poor state of our roads in the UK? It would appear that local council funding is going to completely disappear this year for road maintenance, so any pot holes cultivated this winter are only due to get worse this year. I guess that means less sports bikes on the roads though as riders will be killed far quicker.
ukaskew said:
A chap locally owns one, his progress on Wiltshire roads is roughly equal to that of a bus..
Excellent! And on most of Wiltshire roads he’ll have a similar speed limit to a bus. Over 2040 kegs unladen.Still like to have one for a day or two. Before it needed refilling with fuel...
rtz62 said:
Guffy said:
You can see why it's not suitable for the UK, i have a VW Amarok which is ungainly enough, this would be a monster.
So, ridiculous size, slightly uncouth manners and an interior that sounds a bit low-rent / vulgar; coming to a Premier League footballers driveway near you/me sometime soon...I'd have a pick up tomorrow, they are about the only things that can survive the local potholes. The UK downside is that by the time you get a cab big enough to be used as a family car, and a bed long enough to be useful, they are massive for UK roads. Even a Hilux is super-sized now.
Why do they never make use-case tests in these sort of cars? Lets be honest, only 2 types of people will get this car. Self employed types or Parents on the school run.
For the self employed person they want to know how many tools and bags of concrete can this haul - and how fast will it get up to 50 on a 30, down the wrong direction of a one way street.
The parents will want to know which model variant will use the least fuel when idling mounted up a curb waiting to pick up child number x.
For the self employed person they want to know how many tools and bags of concrete can this haul - and how fast will it get up to 50 on a 30, down the wrong direction of a one way street.
The parents will want to know which model variant will use the least fuel when idling mounted up a curb waiting to pick up child number x.
M511 said:
Why do they never make use-case tests in these sort of cars? Lets be honest, only 2 types of people will get this car. Self employed types or Parents on the school run.
For the self employed person they want to know how many tools and bags of concrete can this haul - and how fast will it get up to 50 on a 30, down the wrong direction of a one way street.
The parents will want to know which model variant will use the least fuel when idling mounted up a curb waiting to pick up child number x.
Its not really aimed at UK though. If there's anything Ford are good at it's building and selling pickups.For the self employed person they want to know how many tools and bags of concrete can this haul - and how fast will it get up to 50 on a 30, down the wrong direction of a one way street.
The parents will want to know which model variant will use the least fuel when idling mounted up a curb waiting to pick up child number x.
fblm said:
M511 said:
Why do they never make use-case tests in these sort of cars? Lets be honest, only 2 types of people will get this car. Self employed types or Parents on the school run.
For the self employed person they want to know how many tools and bags of concrete can this haul - and how fast will it get up to 50 on a 30, down the wrong direction of a one way street.
The parents will want to know which model variant will use the least fuel when idling mounted up a curb waiting to pick up child number x.
Its not really aimed at UK though. If there's anything Ford are good at it's building and selling pickups.For the self employed person they want to know how many tools and bags of concrete can this haul - and how fast will it get up to 50 on a 30, down the wrong direction of a one way street.
The parents will want to know which model variant will use the least fuel when idling mounted up a curb waiting to pick up child number x.
You'll have a couple of tradesmen using a Raptor on site, but most will prefer a regular pickup (the better to absorb all the dings, dents, and scrapes).
Almost no American has heard the phrase, "the school run." Most children in the US go to public (state-funded) schools and they travel to and from these schools on the storied "yellow bus" which is free at the point of use and which is paid for, in the majority of cases, by local property tax.
Below: daily transport for millions of US school children
kainedog said:
+1There's one on PH.
Some will want to get out the hair dryer and remove those "Rich Brit" and "Nemesis" badges / decals, though.
One notable challenge: This 3.2 diesel "Nemesis" is 197 hp / 347 lb-ft (data at preceding link), yet the newly-launched Ranger Raptor 2.0-litre is already 210 hp / 369 lb-ft. The Ranger Raptor also has those sublime "proceed at speed on any terrain" dampers.
Edited by unsprung on Tuesday 13th February 22:54
I'm amazed at the slavering worship of this heap of crap. I can only assume that most PH readers who actually appreciate good cars wouldn't read / comment on an article about the F150, and I only did so out of a grim fascination with just how gross and slobby the USA can be.
This is like a Tonka toy, a fatburger on wheels. If Donald Trump was a vehicle he'd be an F150.
They should just replace the `Ford' on the grille with `fk Off'. At least it'd be honest - as well as delighting the average redneck knuckle-dragger who drives these turdmobiles.
This is like a Tonka toy, a fatburger on wheels. If Donald Trump was a vehicle he'd be an F150.
They should just replace the `Ford' on the grille with `fk Off'. At least it'd be honest - as well as delighting the average redneck knuckle-dragger who drives these turdmobiles.
Pro Bono said:
I'm amazed at the slavering worship of this heap of crap. I can only assume that most PH readers who actually appreciate good cars wouldn't read / comment on an article about the F150, and I only did so out of a grim fascination with just how gross and slobby the USA can be.
This is like a Tonka toy, a fatburger on wheels. If Donald Trump was a vehicle he'd be an F150.
They should just replace the `Ford' on the grille with `fk Off'. At least it'd be honest - as well as delighting the average redneck knuckle-dragger who drives these turdmobiles.
Feeling a bit delicate are we, dear?This is like a Tonka toy, a fatburger on wheels. If Donald Trump was a vehicle he'd be an F150.
They should just replace the `Ford' on the grille with `fk Off'. At least it'd be honest - as well as delighting the average redneck knuckle-dragger who drives these turdmobiles.
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