When will you own an electric car?
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Ilovejapcrap said:
A 40kwh leaf will cost you about 3 pence per mile...Family vehicles really should be EV - take an S Max (ours specifically) an electric version of that would be perfect.
Short trips to the shops drop off pick up of kids from parties or sports clubs etc. Imagine taking it to a zoo no pollution for the animals when on the vehicle safari sections + not disturbing them with ICE noise.
Also reading out (ooor err missus) early in the morning not disturbing he neighbours.
Short trips to the shops drop off pick up of kids from parties or sports clubs etc. Imagine taking it to a zoo no pollution for the animals when on the vehicle safari sections + not disturbing them with ICE noise.
Also reading out (ooor err missus) early in the morning not disturbing he neighbours.
RobDickinson said:
A 40kwh leaf will cost you about 3 pence per mile...
For someone doing around 10,000 miles a year the car will cost you £300 a year? The PCP on a new Tekna is quoted at £349/month for 10K miles so 37p/mile for that alone, if you mean the 'fuel' cost is only 3p/mile then that is pretty irrelevant really. To be fair that is similar to a £199/month PCP ICE that can average around 36mpg so if you really are going to be doing 10k/year it does work out comparably. I can see how an EV can work out for certain use cases, but they are not really cheaper to run, yet.You can lease one for £274 on a 6+47 (so £302 a month actual lease cost). Still feels an unfeasibly high cost for a £22k car, though. What's the cheapest personal lease you can get on, say, a two litre diesel Golf at the moment? The cheapest I can find seems at a quick glance to be about £260 overall.
Edited by kambites on Monday 19th February 11:52
I'll happily own an electric car as long as it's sporty and fast, looks dead sexy and it's photovoltaic body panels can keep it fully charged during a british winter. Until then I'll have to make do with a classic 5.3l convertible for the summer and a 5.2l practical estate for everyday use!
People mention plenty of charging points.... yes, for the tiny minority that own one- can you imagine the carnage at a service station if everyone had an EV and needed the charger for even 10 mins let alone 30... but let’s assume in time every parking space has one. This then leads on to the issue with not enough raw materials in world to make the lithium batteries for all plus take ICE away (tax them to buggary) now what happens to all poorer people who buy a £5-£10k car.
I like idea of EV if I can have one that doesn’t look like a) a spaceship or b) eco buggy but there are so many hurdles to everyone being in an EV it seems nuts to overly punish ICE now.
A balance on the roads seems sensible and that’s how I imagine it will be for some time.
I like idea of EV if I can have one that doesn’t look like a) a spaceship or b) eco buggy but there are so many hurdles to everyone being in an EV it seems nuts to overly punish ICE now.
A balance on the roads seems sensible and that’s how I imagine it will be for some time.
whp1983 said:
This then leads on to the issue with not enough raw materials in world to make the lithium batteries for all plus take ICE away (tax them to buggary) now what happens to all poorer people who buy a £5-£10k car.
What lack of materials?You can already buy second hand EV in the 5-10k bracket.
whp1983 said:
People mention plenty of charging points.... yes, for the tiny minority that own one- can you imagine the carnage at a service station if everyone had an EV and needed the charger for even 10 mins let alone 30... but let’s assume in time every parking space has one. This then leads on to the issue with not enough raw materials in world to make the lithium batteries for all plus take ICE away (tax them to buggary) now what happens to all poorer people who buy a £5-£10k car.
I like idea of EV if I can have one that doesn’t look like a) a spaceship or b) eco buggy but there are so many hurdles to everyone being in an EV it seems nuts to overly punish ICE now.
A balance on the roads seems sensible and that’s how I imagine it will be for some time.
You will be told. Ah yes, but not everyone will charge at the same......blah blah blah. Followed by, sourcing the raw materials will be easy and environmentally friendly etc. Followed by, ICE cars aren't exactly environmentally friendly to manufacture etc.I like idea of EV if I can have one that doesn’t look like a) a spaceship or b) eco buggy but there are so many hurdles to everyone being in an EV it seems nuts to overly punish ICE now.
A balance on the roads seems sensible and that’s how I imagine it will be for some time.
I don't have a problem with EV cars - so long as people understand their limitations as well as benefits.
ICE vehicles will benefit some in some circumstances, hybrids in others and EV in others.
If you like the silence, instant torque and ability to charge at home, fair enough. An EV is great for you. I don't like silence etc. so will always choose ICE as a fun car and most likely a hybrid as a daily (the last bit isn't directed at you by the way, just the first paragraph in response to your post).
Edited by Stu08 on Monday 19th February 13:59
whp1983 said:
People mention plenty of charging points.... yes, for the tiny minority that own one- can you imagine the carnage at a service station if everyone had an EV and needed the charger for even 10 mins let alone 30...
That is a fair point. A few weeks ago, for the second time in my three years of EV ownership, I had occasion to charge at a service station. I happened to get there just before two other EV drivers and secure the only working charge point. If I had been a few minutes later and been third in the queue I would have been very pissed off at having to wait for over an hour.Ben
My 79 year old father in law announced yesterday he was changing his 6 year old Astra & thinking of a hybrid. I nodded & smiled, whilst wanting to roll my eyes. He will get a shock when he realises how much they cost, and how little his 6 year old Astra is worth. He does 5000 miles/year, does no maintenance to his cars (nothing, won't even check oil, tyres, even washer fluid is done on a needs must basis) yet complains when it breaks down OR goes for an MOT & needs money spending on it. Maybe an electric car is for him. Or the bus.
RobDickinson said:
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t why did I put a towbar on mine?
I seem to remember this debate from a while back - some EV manufacturers won't allow towbars to be fitted to their cars. Of course it doesn't really affect us here in Blighty as type approval goes out the window. But your royal cousins in Germany are definitely affected.t why did I put a towbar on mine? Evanivitch said:
whp1983 said:
This then leads on to the issue with not enough raw materials in world to make the lithium batteries for all plus take ICE away (tax them to buggary) now what happens to all poorer people who buy a £5-£10k car.
What lack of materials?You can already buy second hand EV in the 5-10k bracket.
pits said:
98elise said:
pits said:
As soon as this is released and I can afford one
https://www.micro-mobility.com/en/experience-micro...
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king brilliant. If I needed a station car that would be it 
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