Worst design mis-steps

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

cherryowen said:

NickM450 said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

This -



becoming this, is my vote

The Americans had a habit of uglyfying cars with the extra bumpers

TBF to the Americans, I thought the Countach 25th Anniversary was designed by Horatio Pagani (which still doesn't excuse its godwafulness)

I thought it was too, hasn't he got an Anniversary in his Marrinello showroom?

[GeordieInExile]

Muddle238 said:

They weren't facelifts though, they were all-new cars. Not Peugeot's finest years.

The 307 facelift is even uglier than the original anyway....!

[swisstoni]

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

cherryowen said:

NickM450 said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

This -



becoming this, is my vote

The Americans had a habit of uglyfying cars with the extra bumpers

TBF to the Americans, I thought the Countach 25th Anniversary was designed by Horatio Pagani (which still doesn't excuse its godwafulness)

I thought it was too, hasn't he got an Anniversary in his Marrinello showroom?

What a kick in the nuts to Gandini to have another designer mess up your work.
Perhaps that's just showbiz in the car design world.

[anonymous-user]

If you want to see loads of really lazy, sloppy design then any modern Mercedes will keep you busy for ages. I'm going to directly quote a comment on a motoring blog I follow, but five minutes looking at any current Mercedes will give you plenty of other examples.



"The shut line between wing and bumper meets the sharp lower corner of the headlamp unit, which is ok (ish) but the (inexplicably?) rounded upper corner forces the shut line above to be displaced forward, so it is misaligned."

Contrast with the attention to detail and care that all the Sacco era cars displayed.

The absolute worst example is probably the R231 SL. For a car that sells for circa £100k the car is truly dreadful in terms of both overall stance and detailing, it's like a Korean manufacturers first attempt at a faux sportscar.

Of course sales are at record levels, so the lesson is that if you add enough visual tinsel the vast majority of people just don't care about good design and attention to detail. Two things that are time consuming and expensive, so why bother with them?

[DoYouEvenBoost]

More a design choice but the Audi indicators that are the running orange light along the LED strip, like some low rent travelling shows. It's so fking tacky, does it come with a plastic light up singing Santa to stick in the window of the car round Christmas?

Audi are the definition of money can't buy class

[anonymous-user]

DoYouEvenBoost said:

More a design choice but the Audi indicators that are the running orange light along the LED strip, like some low rent travelling shows. It's so fking tacky, does it come with a plastic light up singing Santa to stick in the window of the car round Christmas?

Audi are the definition of money can't buy class

I bet 99% of prospective Audi buyers absolutely, absolutely adore that feature. Why have real creativity when you can have cheap novelty?

[Plug Life]

DoYouEvenBoost said:

More a design choice but the Audi indicators that are the running orange light along the LED strip, like some low rent travelling shows. It's so fking tacky, does it come with a plastic light up singing Santa to stick in the window of the car round Christmas?

Audi are the definition of money can't buy class

It's tacky but more conspicuous than simple blinking which I guess is good for an indicator.

[sr.guiri]

harry henderson said:

As much as I love TVR I'm pretty sure I'm not alone with this one. From this:

To this:

You're not alone.....but shouldn't it be:



and.....

[LuS1fer]

DoubleD said:

24lemons said:

ash73 said:

LuS1fer said:

And let's not forget

Mini is a brand not an adjective, get over it.

People have been cleverly pointing out that the new mini is bigger than the original for 17 years now! That’s half my lifetime!

Ha ha ha. Its like a shock that new cars are bigger than old ones. Next they will be telling us that they also weigh more.

Missing the point. It never needed to be that big. The true spiritual successors to the original Mini are the Citroen C1/108/Aygo, VW Up etc all smaller

eg MINI 3 door - Length 3,821mm Width 1,727mm Height 1,414mm

Peugeot 108 5 door 3,475 x 1,615 x 1,460 mm (100kg lighter in base spec)
VW Up 3,600 x 1,641-1,645 x 1,478-1,504 mm (200kg lighter)

[nullogik]

There are some good ones on this similar thread:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Punto Mk2:



Punto Mk2 facelift. Normally facelifts are supposed to make a car look younger not older and frumpier!

Edited by nullogik on Monday 19th February 15:36

[kayzee]

Made this exact thread several years ago :P

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

My initial entry...

[DoubleD]

LuS1fer said:

DoubleD said:

24lemons said:

ash73 said:

LuS1fer said:

And let's not forget

Mini is a brand not an adjective, get over it.

People have been cleverly pointing out that the new mini is bigger than the original for 17 years now! That’s half my lifetime!

Ha ha ha. Its like a shock that new cars are bigger than old ones. Next they will be telling us that they also weigh more.

Missing the point. It never needed to be that big. The true spiritual successors to the original Mini are the Citroen C1/108/Aygo, VW Up etc all smaller

eg MINI 3 door - Length 3,821mm Width 1,727mm Height 1,414mm

Peugeot 108 5 door 3,475 x 1,615 x 1,460 mm (100kg lighter in base spec)
VW Up 3,600 x 1,641-1,645 x 1,478-1,504 mm (200kg lighter)

Well buy 1 of those then

[theplayingmantis]

new model, has anyone posted a ring stinger yet?

[The Dangerous Elk]

From this with crisp lines


To this with a miss mash of different angles and miss matched curves

[DoubleD]

Those Citroens are both odd looking cars if you ask me.

[austinsmirk]

True successor to the mini, was of course

The mini metro

Which was awful brand new. How they sold them, goodness knows. I guess it was better than the dog of car, that was the mini in the first place. Plus not exactly a huge range of cars back then anyway as an alternative.

[The Dangerous Elk]

ash73 said:

So you think Twiggy would buy a Toyota Aygo, if she was doing it all again?

Yes, if what was offered as an alternative was an Austin A35

[Fox-]

LuS1fer said:

Missing the point. It never needed to be that big. The true spiritual successors to the original Mini are the Citroen C1/108/Aygo, VW Up etc all smaller

eg MINI 3 door - Length 3,821mm Width 1,727mm Height 1,414mm

Peugeot 108 5 door 3,475 x 1,615 x 1,460 mm (100kg lighter in base spec)
VW Up 3,600 x 1,641-1,645 x 1,478-1,504 mm (200kg lighter)

The 108, Up etc are crap small city cars - the current MINI is so much more. I've just happily done a 1300 mile week in an F56 Mini - it was comfortable, incredibly refined on the Motorway (Barely any less so than my 5 Series!) and great fun on the twisties. It wouldn't be this talented an all-rounder if it was the size of a Citroen C1. Neither would it be able to command the sort of prices they command currently, either.

[LuS1fer]

ash73 said:

So you think Twiggy would buy a Toyota Aygo, if she was doing it all again?

I don't know, she had a Toyota 2000GT.

[WheelyTyred]

I don't have any pictures to hand but there was a Ford Focus facelift that stopped the fuel filler cap from lining up with the bottom of the rear light cluster. I think it was the latest generation.