Why do people buy vauxhalls?
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Ali G said:
Point taken - reasons for buying Vauxhall remain too. Mid capacity petrol engined hatch-backs appear to becoming scarce 'though.
I had thought about the Focus 1.5t but after looking around one i prefer the Astra and most of the japanese cars that are similar are more expensive.I like Vauxhall as ive owned Carlton gsi/Senator 24v/Cavalier sri & gsi and a few Opel`s too without any major issues unlike a couple of Fords i have owned..Edited by goldstar500 on Monday 19th February 16:11
Toyoda said:
I know its been discussed here before but saw that pyjama mama advert again yesterday. Jeez from start to finish the whole thing looks like it was put together on an episode of the apprentice, including the name, crossland x.
Do vx use ste agencies or do they go to Saatchi and Saatchi and just say make us the most council advert you can?
pretty much this. look at the adverts of any model - aimed completely at people who dont care what they are driving or have any interest in cars, like 'the yes, its an astra' advert.Do vx use ste agencies or do they go to Saatchi and Saatchi and just say make us the most council advert you can?
which is fine.
they are ok, personally much prefer fords, no kid will have a poster of one on his wall, but none would in this segment, but they do the job there are designed for not significantly better or worse than the other pile em high, sell em cheap marques. apart from ford which rock.
Ali G said:
Point taken - reasons for buying Vauxhall remain too. Mid capacity petrol engined hatch-backs appear to becoming scarce 'though.
Because Vauxhall's engine range seems to lag half a generation at least behind all the other major manufacturers these days. Quite different from 20 or 30 years ago when Vauxhalls had overhead camshafts while Ford were still fitting rattly old CVHs (and continued to do so through the 90s...)Sure you can buy a traditional nat asp 16v engine from Vauxhall but everybody else have started fitting smaller engines which as far as I can tell are basically better in every way.
No issue with Vauxhall at all. As one poster said most manufacturers periodically go through troughs when certain models miss the mark for whatever reason.
I had six as company cars when I worked in corporate land
Mk1 Cavalier 2 litre GL. Effectively an Opel Ascona. Decent car
3 x Mk2 Cavaliers GLS. This was when Vauxhall were way ahead of Ford
Mk 3 Cavalier SRi 130. Great car.
Omega 2.5 Estate. Really well built.
and since bought new 2 Corsas and an Astra (for kids and commuting). All were completely reliable and sold easily privately at decent prices
I had six as company cars when I worked in corporate land
Mk1 Cavalier 2 litre GL. Effectively an Opel Ascona. Decent car
3 x Mk2 Cavaliers GLS. This was when Vauxhall were way ahead of Ford
Mk 3 Cavalier SRi 130. Great car.
Omega 2.5 Estate. Really well built.
and since bought new 2 Corsas and an Astra (for kids and commuting). All were completely reliable and sold easily privately at decent prices
CX53 said:
I haven’t bought a Vauxhall but even worse, leased one. I must be a proper idiot.....
It’s an Astra Elite Nav with the 1.4 turbo petrol. It drives very well, it goes alright too. The interior is excellent, heated everything and comfy seats with a great media system, Apple car play etc. For £150 a month I couldn’t find anything better.
At the time I got it I was working nights and needed something new and reliable because it was a pain missing out on sleep or free time at weekends to get my cars fixed so found one of the cheapest leases I could. It’s exceeded my expectations in every way.
Also, to add to this, one of the only other decent leases I could find at the time was the Seat Leon FR. Same sized engine, same BHP, loads less kit, it looks fantastic but it was a whole £100 per month more. It’s an Astra Elite Nav with the 1.4 turbo petrol. It drives very well, it goes alright too. The interior is excellent, heated everything and comfy seats with a great media system, Apple car play etc. For £150 a month I couldn’t find anything better.
At the time I got it I was working nights and needed something new and reliable because it was a pain missing out on sleep or free time at weekends to get my cars fixed so found one of the cheapest leases I could. It’s exceeded my expectations in every way.
That would be an extra 2400 pounds over the 24 month term. I suppose for many people, are other cars worth that much more? Probably not, so they go for a Vauxhall like I did.
Wife has a 1.0T astra on a 2016 plate. It is nice to drive and shifts fairly well. The car is fairly well bolted together and delivers what is expected. She is happy with it. We had a minor knocking which was taken care of under warranty by Vauxhall and I found them very nice and easy to use.. no drama and no fuss.
Pity the same cant be said for my two local BMW sytners who have been utter tripe to deal with.
Pity the same cant be said for my two local BMW sytners who have been utter tripe to deal with.
Prof Prolapse said:
LuS1fer said:
Ali G said:
And current Astra is very well built (by scousers) a great drive and stonkingly good vfm.
Ellesmere Port is on the Wirral, not in Liverpool bmwmike said:
Wife has a 1.0T astra on a 2016 plate. It is nice to drive and shifts fairly well. The car is fairly well bolted together and delivers what is expected. She is happy with it. We had a minor knocking which was taken care of under warranty by Vauxhall and I found them very nice and easy to use.. no drama and no fuss.
Pity the same cant be said for my two local BMW sytners who have been utter tripe to deal with.
But that's not the point with the BM dealers you are meant to worship the ground they walk on.Pity the same cant be said for my two local BMW sytners who have been utter tripe to deal with.
a la Harry Enfield
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i4rgxOi73c
LuS1fer said:
I used to live in Great Sutton and went to school in Ellesmere Port, in the 70s when it was Cheshire, then it became Merseyside and now it seems to be Cheshire again but it's always been and will always remain the Wirral.
Did you leave or just get lost? It's not on the Wirral and never has been?! Same 1986-1997. Still have family there, Grandfather came up from Luton to work at the current Astra plant. Chevette at the time perhaps?
The locals kicked off because of property values. So it became Cheshire again... Which it still is!
Wills2 said:
The new insignia looks quite nice to me.
The ones I've seen in the metal look "odd". I may get used to them. The new Insignia estate was a possible replacement family wagon.
If they drive well (and have some steering feel -if that is possible in 2018), ride well and have a decent, fairly potent turbo petrol that isn't too thirsty I'd consider one.
Edit: the 1.5T could be the one
Edited by MC Bodge on Monday 19th February 22:39
my first "fast" car was a 98' Vectra Mk1 (Vectra B).
It was about 170bhp which was reasonably hot at the time and it felt fast to me. Most relevant however was that it was built extremely well, 11 years and 80k miles all that needed changing apart from consumables was a fuel pump and a coil spring, very solid interior too.
they have a rep as one of the most awful cars but as a solidly built cruiser that you could buy for peanuts second hand they were great.
i recall 30mpg being tops but in the nineties that was very reasonable for a larger petrol car.
It was about 170bhp which was reasonably hot at the time and it felt fast to me. Most relevant however was that it was built extremely well, 11 years and 80k miles all that needed changing apart from consumables was a fuel pump and a coil spring, very solid interior too.
they have a rep as one of the most awful cars but as a solidly built cruiser that you could buy for peanuts second hand they were great.
i recall 30mpg being tops but in the nineties that was very reasonable for a larger petrol car.
Prof Prolapse said:
LuS1fer said:
Ali G said:
And current Astra is very well built (by scousers) a great drive and stonkingly good vfm.
Ellesmere Port is on the Wirral, not in Liverpool I had a GTC VXR and from a driving perspective, it was excellent. Perhaps not a sharp as the Type R before it, but certainly more rewarding and fun that the Golf R I'm currently in.
But from the perspective of reliability, dealership, and warranty.... stay well clear. I found parts expiring far too quickly (bushes, shocks, etc and fully expected the clutch to follow). The much acclaimed 10-year warranty was written on sub-standard Andrex, useful for only one thing.... honestly, a waste of paper and has put me off ever buying a Vauxhaul again (credit to Pentagon dealer... they tried).
But from the perspective of reliability, dealership, and warranty.... stay well clear. I found parts expiring far too quickly (bushes, shocks, etc and fully expected the clutch to follow). The much acclaimed 10-year warranty was written on sub-standard Andrex, useful for only one thing.... honestly, a waste of paper and has put me off ever buying a Vauxhaul again (credit to Pentagon dealer... they tried).
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