Careless drivers overtaking cyclists in Cambridge face fines
Discussion
thiscocks said:
Camelot1971 said:
I take it cyclists will be fined for overtaking slow moving cars too closely?
Afterall, the law should be applied equally.
Yeah because it really endangers the life of the driver if a cyclist gets too close to a car doesn't it? Afterall, the law should be applied equally.
If cyclists riding two abreast leave less than 1.5 metres to oncoming traffic, will the outer rider need speaking to?
Or is 1.5m ( or less) ok in that circumstance.
As above 1.5m is only being used as a number.
There'll be many circumstances where less than 1.5metres is safe as you can probably see all the time in Cambridge and no penalty will arise.
thiscocks said:
Yeah because it really endangers the life of the driver if a cyclist gets too close to a car doesn't it?
That's right, in exactly the same way speeding only endangers the driver on an otherwise empty stretch of road. OK, not really the same, a stone wall or tree wouldn't feel bad if the driver got hurt when they hit them.
We had operation "Close pass" in Edinburgh earlier in the year with plain clothed police on cycles. Anyone caught doing close overtake where stopped and taken to a near by industrial site to view a static display and a chat
http://www.scotland.police.uk/whats-happening/news...
http://www.scotland.police.uk/whats-happening/news...
Its the same thing though
They've marked out a diagram showing what is known as 'overtaking clearance'
Its not defining thats how big it should be, it's just showing what that gap is called
Youd not often find it big enough for a police officer in many cities, whether the bike is travelling faster than the car or vice versa
Strange they havent taken the arrow to the tip of th handlebars ( or the pedals?)
They've marked out a diagram showing what is known as 'overtaking clearance'
Its not defining thats how big it should be, it's just showing what that gap is called
Youd not often find it big enough for a police officer in many cities, whether the bike is travelling faster than the car or vice versa
Strange they havent taken the arrow to the tip of th handlebars ( or the pedals?)
Edited by saaby93 on Friday 23 February 13:44
saaby93 said:
Its the same thing though
They've marked out a diagram showing what is known as 'overtaking clearance'
Its not defining thats how big it should be, it's just showing what that gap is called
It's the thing that they use to show drivers who have passed too close how much space they should have left.They've marked out a diagram showing what is known as 'overtaking clearance'
Its not defining thats how big it should be, it's just showing what that gap is called
They often have 1.5m marked on them.
DonkeyApple said:
Plug Life said:
LOL Talk about a didactic setup!
But sensible if everyone you’re trying to teach is plastered. http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/customer-service/service...
Does that mean the cyclist is only allowed to be 0.75 from the kerb or if the car is 2.25m from the kerb then you have allowed enough passing distance and it is up to the cyclist to manage the space they have?
It also means that you can only really fit a cycle lane in if the gap from the kerb to the centreline is at least 5m and preferably 6m to allow for large vehicles if road sees a lot of those.
Being too literal above really, does make me wonder if they could try putting a dashed line 2.25m from the kerb next to a solid lined cycle lane in some places just to help educate drivers. That of course assumes that the drivers actually realise what it means, the danger being of course then that being outside the dotted line will be taken as automatically safe.
It also means that you can only really fit a cycle lane in if the gap from the kerb to the centreline is at least 5m and preferably 6m to allow for large vehicles if road sees a lot of those.
Being too literal above really, does make me wonder if they could try putting a dashed line 2.25m from the kerb next to a solid lined cycle lane in some places just to help educate drivers. That of course assumes that the drivers actually realise what it means, the danger being of course then that being outside the dotted line will be taken as automatically safe.
saaby93 said:
Youd not often find it big enough for a police officer in many cities, whether the bike is travelling faster than the car or vice versa
Then quite simply you do not pass until there is such a space......it really isn't that difficult a concept to grasp. You either respect other road users or you dont, those are the only two types of person using a road regardless of the vehicleEdited by saaby93 on Friday 23 February 13:44
robinessex said:
Careless drivers overtaking cyclists in Cambridge face fines
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshir...
Motorists who overtake cyclists without giving them enough room are being targeted and could be fined.
Plain-clothed police officers on cycles will be out in Cambridge to ensure drivers adopt a "safe pass" approach.
The Operation Velo police campaign says the "optimum" overtaking clearance width between the cycle and motor vehicle is of 1.5m (4.9ft).
If prosecuted for careless driving, motorists could be fined £100 and get three points on their licence.
There were 489 collisions involving cyclists on Cambridgeshire's roads between 2012 and 2016.........................Continues
What a load of bollix. Yet another why our country is full of snowflakes! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshir...
Motorists who overtake cyclists without giving them enough room are being targeted and could be fined.
Plain-clothed police officers on cycles will be out in Cambridge to ensure drivers adopt a "safe pass" approach.
The Operation Velo police campaign says the "optimum" overtaking clearance width between the cycle and motor vehicle is of 1.5m (4.9ft).
If prosecuted for careless driving, motorists could be fined £100 and get three points on their licence.
There were 489 collisions involving cyclists on Cambridgeshire's roads between 2012 and 2016.........................Continues
Ali Chappussy said:
robinessex said:
Careless drivers overtaking cyclists in Cambridge face fines
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshir...
Motorists who overtake cyclists without giving them enough room are being targeted and could be fined.
Plain-clothed police officers on cycles will be out in Cambridge to ensure drivers adopt a "safe pass" approach.
The Operation Velo police campaign says the "optimum" overtaking clearance width between the cycle and motor vehicle is of 1.5m (4.9ft).
If prosecuted for careless driving, motorists could be fined £100 and get three points on their licence.
There were 489 collisions involving cyclists on Cambridgeshire's roads between 2012 and 2016.........................Continues
What a load of bollix. Yet another why our country is full of snowflakes! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshir...
Motorists who overtake cyclists without giving them enough room are being targeted and could be fined.
Plain-clothed police officers on cycles will be out in Cambridge to ensure drivers adopt a "safe pass" approach.
The Operation Velo police campaign says the "optimum" overtaking clearance width between the cycle and motor vehicle is of 1.5m (4.9ft).
If prosecuted for careless driving, motorists could be fined £100 and get three points on their licence.
There were 489 collisions involving cyclists on Cambridgeshire's roads between 2012 and 2016.........................Continues
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