Careless drivers overtaking cyclists in Cambridge face fines

Careless drivers overtaking cyclists in Cambridge face fines

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saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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thiscocks said:
Camelot1971 said:
I take it cyclists will be fined for overtaking slow moving cars too closely?

Afterall, the law should be applied equally.
Yeah because it really endangers the life of the driver if a cyclist gets too close to a car doesn't it? rolleyes
Without caaching your parrot, isnt the idea to reduce overall endangerment
If cyclists riding two abreast leave less than 1.5 metres to oncoming traffic, will the outer rider need speaking to?
Or is 1.5m ( or less) ok in that circumstance.
As above 1.5m is only being used as a number.
There'll be many circumstances where less than 1.5metres is safe as you can probably see all the time in Cambridge and no penalty will arise.

Toltec

7,159 posts

223 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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thiscocks said:
Yeah because it really endangers the life of the driver if a cyclist gets too close to a car doesn't it? rolleyes
That's right, in exactly the same way speeding only endangers the driver on an otherwise empty stretch of road. biggrin


OK, not really the same, a stone wall or tree wouldn't feel bad if the driver got hurt when they hit them.

Janluke

2,580 posts

158 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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We had operation "Close pass" in Edinburgh earlier in the year with plain clothed police on cycles. Anyone caught doing close overtake where stopped and taken to a near by industrial site to view a static display and a chat

http://www.scotland.police.uk/whats-happening/news...


Plug Life

978 posts

91 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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LOL Talk about a didactic setup!

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Its the same thing though
They've marked out a diagram showing what is known as 'overtaking clearance'
Its not defining thats how big it should be, it's just showing what that gap is called
Youd not often find it big enough for a police officer in many cities, whether the bike is travelling faster than the car or vice versa
Strange they havent taken the arrow to the tip of th handlebars ( or the pedals?)



Edited by saaby93 on Friday 23 February 13:44

Plug Life

978 posts

91 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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saaby93 said:
Whats the white shape next to the car
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saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Plug Life said:
saaby93 said:
Whats the white shape next to the car
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Theres one of these left of the bike too {
Is that road space?

Oh dear - is it as much as a car?

otolith

56,026 posts

204 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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saaby93 said:
Its the same thing though
They've marked out a diagram showing what is known as 'overtaking clearance'
Its not defining thats how big it should be, it's just showing what that gap is called
It's the thing that they use to show drivers who have passed too close how much space they should have left.

They often have 1.5m marked on them.



Plug Life

978 posts

91 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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These pictures show the perfect solution: every cyclist must have a copper running beside him/her!

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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otolith said:
It's the thing that they use to show drivers who have passed too close how much space they should have left.

They often have 1.5m marked on them.
That one's from the bike tyre though

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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saaby93 said:
otolith said:
It's the thing that they use to show drivers who have passed too close how much space they should have left.

They often have 1.5m marked on them.
That one's from the bike tyre though
You can't honestly be that thick?

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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WinstonWolf said:
You can't honestly be that thick?
The opposite - the tyre's pretty thin.

DonkeyApple

55,168 posts

169 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Plug Life said:
LOL Talk about a didactic setup!
But sensible if everyone you’re trying to teach is plastered.

Edited by DonkeyApple on Friday 23 February 14:37

otolith

56,026 posts

204 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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DonkeyApple said:
Plug Life said:
LOL Talk about a didactic setup!
But sensible if everyone you’re trying to teach is plastered.
I am beginning to understand why this is a thing.

http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/customer-service/service...

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Plug Life said:
These pictures show the perfect solution: every cyclist must have a copper running beside him/her!
Have you seen state of most of them, most couldn't complete their own physical entrance test.

Toltec

7,159 posts

223 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Does that mean the cyclist is only allowed to be 0.75 from the kerb or if the car is 2.25m from the kerb then you have allowed enough passing distance and it is up to the cyclist to manage the space they have?

It also means that you can only really fit a cycle lane in if the gap from the kerb to the centreline is at least 5m and preferably 6m to allow for large vehicles if road sees a lot of those.

Being too literal above really, does make me wonder if they could try putting a dashed line 2.25m from the kerb next to a solid lined cycle lane in some places just to help educate drivers. That of course assumes that the drivers actually realise what it means, the danger being of course then that being outside the dotted line will be taken as automatically safe.

Car-Matt

1,923 posts

138 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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saaby93 said:
Youd not often find it big enough for a police officer in many cities, whether the bike is travelling faster than the car or vice versa




Edited by saaby93 on Friday 23 February 13:44
Then quite simply you do not pass until there is such a space......it really isn't that difficult a concept to grasp. You either respect other road users or you dont, those are the only two types of person using a road regardless of the vehicle

Ali Chappussy

876 posts

145 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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robinessex said:
Careless drivers overtaking cyclists in Cambridge face fines

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshir...

Motorists who overtake cyclists without giving them enough room are being targeted and could be fined.

Plain-clothed police officers on cycles will be out in Cambridge to ensure drivers adopt a "safe pass" approach.

The Operation Velo police campaign says the "optimum" overtaking clearance width between the cycle and motor vehicle is of 1.5m (4.9ft).

If prosecuted for careless driving, motorists could be fined £100 and get three points on their licence.

There were 489 collisions involving cyclists on Cambridgeshire's roads between 2012 and 2016.........................Continues
What a load of bollix. Yet another why our country is full of snowflakes!

MDMetal

2,775 posts

148 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Ali Chappussy said:
robinessex said:
Careless drivers overtaking cyclists in Cambridge face fines

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshir...

Motorists who overtake cyclists without giving them enough room are being targeted and could be fined.

Plain-clothed police officers on cycles will be out in Cambridge to ensure drivers adopt a "safe pass" approach.

The Operation Velo police campaign says the "optimum" overtaking clearance width between the cycle and motor vehicle is of 1.5m (4.9ft).

If prosecuted for careless driving, motorists could be fined £100 and get three points on their licence.

There were 489 collisions involving cyclists on Cambridgeshire's roads between 2012 and 2016.........................Continues
What a load of bollix. Yet another why our country is full of snowflakes!
Welcome to Cambridge smile They're busy spending 6million on improving one of the main roads into the city, excellent I thought, oh wait, wider cycle lanes, yes that'll help nobody

48Valves

1,945 posts

209 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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The majority of cyclists in Cambridge are fking idiots with no sense of self preservation or think they own the road.