RE: New Porsche 911 previewed

RE: New Porsche 911 previewed

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DamnKraut

458 posts

99 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Plug Life said:
Funny pic, men in suits fondling a car in bad camo wrap.
Guy at the left is so amazed that he has to kneel. Admittedly, the achievement to bloat the 911 up to Bentley-esque proportions makes one want to kneel ... in despair. Guy standing is either 5'3 or the height of the car approaches SUV levels. What's the wheel size on that prototype? 21's at least? What an utter mess. weeping

RDMcG

19,142 posts

207 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Luckily there are scads of used Porsches so the N/A world is not in danger soon.
Seriously, the one thing that gives me pause is the GT3/RS....turbo.

PunterCam

1,070 posts

195 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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Bored to tears with their stuff these days.

The original Cayman brought a little exotic into the affordable price range, but since then I'm not sure they've done anything of note. Fairly dull evolutions of nothing. The GT cars are even bland... But I suppose they're a fairly recent creation in the Porsche line, they have no real history. They're just luxury GTs pretending to be hardcore...

You just know the new one will have a horrible big screen in it too (making the owners life miserable, saving Porsche a load of money, and making the car useless in the future).

So bland, and yet people get excited by it.. I can't tell if I'm getting old or if people are getting thicker... Judging by certain other public behaviours in recent times however, I have an idea..

PunterCam

1,070 posts

195 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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StephenGalley said:
99dndd said:
Surprised that there's no hybrid, I though hybrid was going to replace the Turbo in the lineup.

It would have good too, use the engine to power the rear wheels and a 200bhp motor up front.
I'm glad there isn't, it's extra weight and complexity.
Might have added a modicum of interest if it had though. Jesus it's all so bland.

Plug Life

978 posts

91 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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StephenGalley said:
99dndd said:
Surprised that there's no hybrid, I though hybrid was going to replace the Turbo in the lineup.
I'm glad there isn't, it's extra weight and complexity.
Yeah they should just drop the ICE crap and go EV with the 911 too. Maybe after the Mission E.

Cold

15,246 posts

90 months

Friday 23rd February 2018
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P R N D said:
Seriously, can you imagine an announcement from Porsche that they're axing the 911? It like Buckingham Palace announcing they're axing the monarchy.
I can imagine that, yes. It would mean a replacement 928 would happen.

RDMcG

19,142 posts

207 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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anonymous said:
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Agree with that conclusion. The 992 rear design has been optimized to accommodate the hybrid equipment. I have also never heard of a pure electric 911. Given the launch of the Mission E I think it would be poor marketing strategy. in the long run I assume its possible of course.

Chestrockwell

2,627 posts

157 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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I wish I had the money to pick up a 991 GT3 RS or any GT3 for that matter, they’re going to be silly money in the next 10 years!

myhandle

1,187 posts

174 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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kapiteinlangzaam said:
It was already unveiled about a week ago by a lady with a cameraphone taking photos where she probably shouldn't.

Photos disappeared rapidly a few hours later. hehe
The first actual information on this thread but somehow no one has commented on it. Can you tell us more, Herr Lehmann Long Lens :-)

The 996 Carrera looked plain when launched, now a silver 996 Coupe on factory turbo style 18"s looks very good, if in perfect condition . Any base model 911 looks quite plain at launch, very quickly overshadowed by the more expensive models as they appear - and as someone old enough to remember the launch of the 964, through reading CAR when I was a schoolboy, every new 911 generation looks more boring than the limited edition version of the previous version at launch, but nonetheless the new basic version looks very modern at launch. It would be great to see the lady's camera phone pic. As an aside, when I was about 10 I read an article in CAR by Hans Lehmann, hunting prototypes in the deserts of the USA. I remember he found a Maestro driving in the US which was a quick giveaway that Rover were in town. Back to the point, in this article he had bought an 89 Speedster from Zipper Porsche in the US and sent it back to Germany . That term I got my first and last D grade in a subject as the teacher had one term to retirement and had no problem with me overtly reading CAR during lessons and my pal assembling Airfix models two desks down. From that article
I learned not to confuse new with special. The 964 C4 was already on sale when Lehmann bought his new old stock Speedster. However everything starts somewhere . Looking forward to that lady's photo of the 992.

Edited by myhandle on Saturday 24th February 01:57

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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Iconic and somewhat timeless.

I can't imagine Porsche without the 911. The two are synonymous. The US market in particular is mad about this car as well as the perception that a certain fastidious and idiosyncratic approach is or was part of its ethos.

Hopefully this newest iteration can be just a bit lighter than expected. Porsche is good at that.




anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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kambites said:
epom said:
Porsche really need to drop the 911, I mean its getting a bit long in the tooth now. All these little updates. Time to spend some cash on a brand new model.
It doesn't exactly seem to be suffering from poor sales...
Yep, they've become a bit too common now, lovely cars but hardly exciting when you see one now.
Think they call it 'victim of their own success'

Julian Thompson

2,543 posts

238 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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Don’t panic. The new GT3 will be amazing if you allow prejudices to drop and enjoy it for what it does well.

On the road the turbos will suit it much better. The current GT3 is gutless low down compared to something like an M4 so the turbos will help that.

RemyMartin81D

6,759 posts

205 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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So all 911s are going to be turbos?

Doesn't that sort of render the 911 turbo as a model designation obsolete.

Either way it's a daft moniker.


Julian Thompson

2,543 posts

238 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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RemyMartin81D said:
So all 911s are going to be turbos?

Doesn't that sort of render the 911 turbo as a model designation obsolete.

Either way it's a daft moniker.
Yes it’s awkward that - Turbo now just sounds like marketing but it’s a tricky one because the “turbo” really does have a lot of differences from the normal cars which are turbo! Might be better to retain only the Turbo S ?

dazzx10r

39 posts

175 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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So not mid engined as the rumours would have you believe?

NJH

3,021 posts

209 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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That actually would have been interesting.

Going all turbo is not really news.

Wills2

22,802 posts

175 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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kambites said:
thiscocks said:
Its not a GT3 if its got a turbo. Why cant they badge it differently? GT5 maybe?
Why? Some GT3 cars have been turobcharged for years haven't they? I don't think there's anything particularly linking GT3 to natural aspiration.
Which GT3 has been turbo charged? GT2 yes but not the GT3, the GT3 has so far been the definition of natural aspiration.



kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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Err, i don't know. I don't follow GT racing really. I think Nissan do a GT3 class GTR, surely that's turbocharged?

ETA I've just realised you were probably specifically talking about 911s, rather than GT3s in general. Ignore me. smile

Edited by kambites on Saturday 24th February 10:49

RobDown

3,803 posts

128 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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The Surveyor said:
And so the cycle begins again even before the last one stopped.

Waiting for the GTS, GT3, GT3 RS, GT2, Turbo S, GT3 Touring, R versions in limited number to awaiting flippers whilst the rest of us just gets bored with yet another 911 that looks just the same as the last one.
This

Cheib

23,242 posts

175 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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myhandle said:
kapiteinlangzaam said:
It was already unveiled about a week ago by a lady with a cameraphone taking photos where she probably shouldn't.

Photos disappeared rapidly a few hours later. hehe
The first actual information on this thread but somehow no one has commented on it. Can you tell us more, Herr Lehmann Long Lens :-)

The 996 Carrera looked plain when launched, now a silver 996 Coupe on factory turbo style 18"s looks very good, if in perfect condition . Any base model 911 looks quite plain at launch, very quickly overshadowed by the more expensive models as they appear - and as someone old enough to remember the launch of the 964, through reading CAR when I was a schoolboy, every new 911 generation looks more boring than the limited edition version of the previous version at launch, but nonetheless the new basic version looks very modern at launch. It would be great to see the lady's camera phone pic. As an aside, when I was about 10 I read an article in CAR by Hans Lehmann, hunting prototypes in the deserts of the USA. I remember he found a Maestro driving in the US which was a quick giveaway that Rover were in town. Back to the point, in this article he had bought an 89 Speedster from Zipper Porsche in the US and sent it back to Germany . That term I got my first and last D grade in a subject as the teacher had one term to retirement and had no problem with me overtly reading CAR during lessons and my pal assembling Airfix models two desks down. From that article
I learned not to confuse new with special. The 964 C4 was already on sale when Lehmann bought his new old stock Speedster. However everything starts somewhere . Looking forward to that lady's photo of the 992.

Edited by myhandle on Saturday 24th February 01:57
I think he's referring to this photo which appeared on Social Media