RE: Ford Sierra XR4x4i 2.9i: Spotted

RE: Ford Sierra XR4x4i 2.9i: Spotted

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aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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cerb4.5lee said:
TheAngryDog said:
aaron_2000 said:
Well I knew I would, from reading this I'm now looking for XR4x4's. Thinking of going to see this one

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Sierra-XR4x4-2-9-M...
This has been for sale for a while IIRC
It has, the chap who's selling it is good to deal with though, and I test drove a Mk5 RS2000 that he had in a few years back.

This thread has really made me want another Xr4x4 big time!
Yeah I've been checking it out a few times for a while now, bet there could be a pretty good deal there.

TheAngryDog

12,406 posts

209 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
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cerb4.5lee said:
TheAngryDog said:
aaron_2000 said:
Well I knew I would, from reading this I'm now looking for XR4x4's. Thinking of going to see this one

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Sierra-XR4x4-2-9-M...
This has been for sale for a while IIRC
It has, the chap who's selling it is good to deal with though, and I test drove a Mk5 RS2000 that he had in a few years back.

This thread has really made me want another Xr4x4 big time!
It's a niche car so will take a while to sell due to it not being a Cosworth. I just hope whoever buys it appreciates it for what it is.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 28th February 2018
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TheAngryDog said:
It's a niche car so will take a while to sell due to it not being a Cosworth. I just hope whoever buys it appreciates it for what it is.
Never go back to an old girlfriend is a moto worth considering when it comes to your old cars too.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Wednesday 28th February 2018
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aaron_2000 said:
They built the Minker K1 on the XR4x4 right?



Atomic12C said:
In the day these cars were a proper laugh to own and drive.
Basic engine, easy to work on.
Comedy soft suspension as stock but with some tuned springs these cars became a hoot to drive.

If I remember correctly they were a 70%-30% rear to front drive split and they had a rear mechanical LSD.
Which made them great for the likes of winter driving, driving off road, a bit of rallying etc.

I remember going to a track day many years ago, I took my Caterham at the time and a work colleague took his 4x4 2.9 Sierra.
It was a wet rainy day (typical summer time), but his car turned out to be much more fun than mine !

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Wednesday 28th February 2018
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TheAngryDog said:
cerb4.5lee said:
TheAngryDog said:
aaron_2000 said:
Well I knew I would, from reading this I'm now looking for XR4x4's. Thinking of going to see this one

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Sierra-XR4x4-2-9-M...
This has been for sale for a while IIRC
It has, the chap who's selling it is good to deal with though, and I test drove a Mk5 RS2000 that he had in a few years back.

This thread has really made me want another Xr4x4 big time!
It's a niche car so will take a while to sell due to it not being a Cosworth. I just hope whoever buys it appreciates it for what it is.
If the price is right, I can see me running it for a year, get a cross Europe drive done with it.

TheAngryDog

12,406 posts

209 months

Wednesday 28th February 2018
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I'd make sure it is 100% before taking it across Europe. The engines and drive train are robust, but make sure that the brakes are all spot on. The rear brakes on these can seize, especially the hand brake mech.

One thing I learnt about applying the handbrake was to apply it, press the brake pedal and then pull the hand brake lever up more. You could sometimes find that the hand brake would free itself once the brakes had cooled down and the car could have moved. Doing the above applies the hand brake fully apparently

cerb4.5lee

30,585 posts

180 months

Wednesday 28th February 2018
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TheAngryDog said:
The rear brakes on these can seize, especially the hand brake mech.
I also suffered from that issue on mine. I had issues with clutch cables as well and I had three snap on me over the years.

InitialDave

11,900 posts

119 months

Wednesday 28th February 2018
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cerb4.5lee said:
TheAngryDog said:
The rear brakes on these can seize, especially the hand brake mech.
I also suffered from that issue on mine. I had issues with clutch cables as well and I had three snap on me over the years.
Yes, the handbrake mechanism on the rear calipers can get sticky. Not really Ford specifically, I've found similar designs on other manufacturers' stuff to be the same.

Of course, the contemporary BMW and similar designs with a small drum in the centre of the disc aren't overly wonderful either.

TheAngryDog

12,406 posts

209 months

Wednesday 28th February 2018
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InitialDave said:
cerb4.5lee said:
TheAngryDog said:
The rear brakes on these can seize, especially the hand brake mech.
I also suffered from that issue on mine. I had issues with clutch cables as well and I had three snap on me over the years.
Yes, the handbrake mechanism on the rear calipers can get sticky. Not really Ford specifically, I've found similar designs on other manufacturers' stuff to be the same.

Of course, the contemporary BMW and similar designs with a small drum in the centre of the disc aren't overly wonderful either.
I never had the clutch cable snap, but my brother did many times in his Cossie. The bottom steering column bush would always pop out as well on mine so would need pushing back in.

The BMW (E39 especially) hand brake mech is utter dog sick! lol I was always surprised that mine passed the MOT on that!

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Wednesday 28th February 2018
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cerb4.5lee said:
TheAngryDog said:
The rear brakes on these can seize, especially the hand brake mech.
I also suffered from that issue on mine. I had issues with clutch cables as well and I had three snap on me over the years.
Heat from the exhaust manifold dries them out and they get a sticky spot. You can prolong the life of them by wrappring them in Agriemach or similar where they pass close to the exhausts

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Wednesday 28th February 2018
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TheAngryDog said:
I'd make sure it is 100% before taking it across Europe. The engines and drive train are robust, but make sure that the brakes are all spot on. The rear brakes on these can seize, especially the hand brake mech.

One thing I learnt about applying the handbrake was to apply it, press the brake pedal and then pull the hand brake lever up more. You could sometimes find that the hand brake would free itself once the brakes had cooled down and the car could have moved. Doing the above applies the hand brake fully apparently
I'd be stripping stuff like brakes anyway, It's ritual now that I replace pads at the very least on any car I buy. Thanks for the tip.

cerb4.5lee

30,585 posts

180 months

Wednesday 28th February 2018
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s m said:
cerb4.5lee said:
TheAngryDog said:
The rear brakes on these can seize, especially the hand brake mech.
I also suffered from that issue on mine. I had issues with clutch cables as well and I had three snap on me over the years.
Heat from the exhaust manifold dries them out and they get a sticky spot. You can prolong the life of them by wrappring them in Agriemach or similar where they pass close to the exhausts
That's good to know thanks, I wish I'd known that back then.

R400TVR

543 posts

162 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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Pity we didn't get the XR8 in the UK.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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R400TVR said:
Pity we didn't get the XR8 in the UK.



anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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Front arches look awful.

Mr Tidy

22,324 posts

127 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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jsf said:
Front arches look awful.
I could live with them for a Sierra with a V8! laugh

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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Mr Tidy said:
jsf said:
Front arches look awful.
I could live with them for a Sierra with a V8! laugh
All the XR8s had the front arch extensions. They were an homologation car so although they weren't needed for the standard 195 width tyres ( a GT86's 215 rubber doesn't look so "skinny" now ) it allowed them to have fatter rubber when racing

R400TVR

543 posts

162 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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Very nice!