RE: New Alfa Romeo 'Nurburgring' special editions
Discussion
Yipper said:
Alfa definitely on a roll and starting to compete better with the near-premium Germans. A long way to go, of course, but they're getting closer.
I know i shouldn't, but do they really have a long way to go? Isn't the Giulia Quadrifoglio in many ways better than the F80 M3, which is one of the near-premium German competitors which you speak of?culpz said:
I know i shouldn't, but do they really have a long way to go? Isn't the Giulia Quadrifoglio in many ways better than the F80 M3, which is one of the near-premium German competitors which you speak of?
Giula Quadrifoglio is appreciably better than an F80 M3, a little bit better than an F80 M3 Competition Pack, an F80 M3 CS is probably faster but is £30,000 more.What Alfa dont currently have which their large German rivals do is the ability to churn out improved/upgraded models every 6 months.
kambites said:
Are htey proving unreliable then? I haven't read about any seemingly endemic problems.
Top gear mag have a long term test one that seems to break every month.Will be interesting seeing how long its Nurburg record stands anyway as the current Merc E63 TOURER is only 5 sec slower in the hands of a motoring journalist so what the saloon with a bit of practice could do or the new M5
RB Will said:
kambites said:
Are htey proving unreliable then? I haven't read about any seemingly endemic problems.
Top gear mag have a long term test one that seems to break every month.Same when I had my TVR, and you don't expect them to be reliable and it's all part of the ownership experience. You tend to love them more for it and you appreciate them more when they do work.
RB Will said:
kambites said:
Are htey proving unreliable then? I haven't read about any seemingly endemic problems.
Top gear mag have a long term test one that seems to break every month.Will be interesting seeing how long its Nurburg record stands anyway as the current Merc E63 TOURER is only 5 sec slower in the hands of a motoring journalist so what the saloon with a bit of practice could do or the new M5
its alfas first attempt in 20 years on a completely new model. you would expect the Germans with all their years of experience, development and refinement to be able to beat it.
The N ring editions to me smacks of doing something for somethings sake though. Alfa had nothing much to show at Geneva which would be a bit of a PR disaster imo so cobbled together this to make it look like they had something new to show.
a bit of a let down for me and they should have come up with something actually different, maybe more power or at least a radical bodykit or something to keep them relevant and getting attention amongst the host of new stuff at Geneva. Yes that would also be a cynical move, but it would have at least looked like they were doing something a bit more than just a limited color which is what this is...
RB Will said:
Top gear mag have a long term test one that seems to break every month.
So this is a point I will try to address over and over again. There have been problems on a lot of the press cars - I dont exactly know why, perhaps they were early production.Myself and many other owners have not had a single problem in over a year of owning the cars. Nothing. Nada.
Why Alfa UK havent given TG a new car i dont know, they are just shooting themselves in the feet.
Autocar dont seem to have had the same trouble - https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/alfa-romeo/gi...
Nor CAR - https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/long-ter...
cerb4.5lee said:
If it was reliable I'd imagine that die hard Alfa fans would be a little disappointed, it's what adds to the character of the car.
Same when I had my TVR, and you don't expect them to be reliable and it's all part of the ownership experience. You tend to love them more for it and you appreciate them more when they do work.
Indeed, there is a fine balance to be struck.Same when I had my TVR, and you don't expect them to be reliable and it's all part of the ownership experience. You tend to love them more for it and you appreciate them more when they do work.
Many people would call it a nuissance, but having to keep on top of the oil on my 147 gives me a sense of caring for it. Replacing some parts indeed forms some weird sort of bond i wouldnt have with a similar aged car which just works.
That said, i can imagine if i had the same niggles on a car id paid 40K for rather then 2K, i might be disappointed.
Ruskins said:
RB Will said:
Top gear mag have a long term test one that seems to break every month.
So this is a point I will try to address over and over again. There have been problems on a lot of the press cars - I dont exactly know why, perhaps they were early production.Myself and many other owners have not had a single problem in over a year of owning the cars. Nothing. Nada.
Why Alfa UK havent given TG a new car i dont know, they are just shooting themselves in the feet.
Autocar dont seem to have had the same trouble - https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/alfa-romeo/gi...
Nor CAR - https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/long-ter...
theplayingmantis said:
haha dount this paltry edition tempts you back.
who TF is stelvio steve though. still looking for pg on here
Mr S lurks in the Alfa section pretending to be his wife ...... who TF is stelvio steve though. still looking for pg on here
On topic - no this is not for me. I’m with Ruskins it’s a bit too “dealer special edition” and for the time being I am loving the beastly Merc.
I’d find a GTA/Competitzione Edition much harder to resist.
jjr1 said:
VR6 Eug said:
Looks nice but I couldn't do with it conking out all the bloody time...so just buy something else
It was for this reason I bought an M4 Competition pack. I prefer the Alfa to drive and its looks but just couldn't throw the die and take the risk.He's had problems in the 2 months he's had his 'reliable' M3 CP, my QV has been faultless.
He also admits its every time he sees mine he wonders what would have been.
Iceicebsby1980 said:
Ares said:
Gameface said:
Iceicebsby1980 said:
So basically for extra £ you get a limited edition colour and a plaque.
You didn't see the bit about the expensive carbon ceramic brakes? Or the expensive carbon shell sparco race seats? Or the carbon trim?
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So....who is the Knuckle dragger now? Maybe check basic facts (and adopt 4yr old reading skills) before calling people names. eh?
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