RE: Alfa Romeo 164 Cloverleaf: Spotted

[LarsG]

I've owned three Alfasuds, including the green cloverleaf, a Alfasud Sprint Veloce Green Cloverleaf and a GTV6.

However the 164 did nothing for me. As soon as the smooth lines changed to euro box shapes it was the end. The downward spiral started with the Arna and the 33. Engine reliability was good but generally the rest of the car fell apart, poor rust proofing and electrics. The 80's and 90's were not good for the Marque.

Still the sound of the V6 and the flat 4's raspy note were highlights of driving them.

[Pereldh]

All four cars on that platform was made amazingly different, each type of character.

One dark horse favorite there was the Fiat Croma Turbo, one of the fastest iterations of them.


I do have a 3.0 24v engine (but it will be fit into my Alfa 75 instead)

[Fast Bug]

I don't remember the torque steer being that bad on my 24v Cloverleaf, certainly no worse than any other 200 bhp fwd car of the era.

One of only 2 cars I regret selling

[CrutyRammers]

Never been a fan of the shape (likewise the pug 405), but I did put the engine from one in my kitcar and it's fantastic!
13 grand though, ouch!

[bloomen]

Laughable price.

These are pleasant enough. I had a twin spark one for a while.

I can think of, ooh, a few thousand other vehicles at that price level I'd have over this. Just cos it's old and obscure does not make it valuable.

[viggyp]

Pereldh said:

All four cars on that platform was made amazingly different, each type of character.

One dark horse favorite there was the Fiat Croma Turbo, one of the fastest iterations of them.


I do have a 3.0 24v engine (but it will be fit into my Alfa 75 instead)

Ooh. Do tell more about the 75 please. The new issue of Auto Italia has a 48 page special on transaxle models including a 75 with a 24V Busso lump.

The Saab, Fiat and Lancia all shared the same door frames and steering racks. The Croma felt much faster then the 155bhp it apparently had!

[alfa phil]

velocgee said:

alfa phil said:

Was given a 164 as a courtesy car from the local Alfa specialist when my spider went in for some work , did wonder how it got us from A to B every light used to stay on on that dash as you drove it and there was plenty of them, it was in Alfa Red, got a bit attached to it really.

Wasn’t a garage in NW London was it?

No it was in Baldock Herts if my memory serves me right,

[Strider]

In 1996 I bought the last Alfa 164 24V Cloverleaf press car, following a 164 V6 Lusso and a V6 Super. The Cloverleaf was one of those cars you can't imagine ever not loving and worry how to replace, although the terrible dealers did eventually cure my Alfa habit. This could even be my car, maybe. I'd be very interested to find out.