RE: McLaren Senna GTR: Geneva 2018
Discussion
E65Ross said:
HighwayStar said:
1781cc said:
RIP McLaren - it was interesting there for a bit, way to sh*t on your legacy with a time attack inspired car.
Such a shame
RIP... Seriously?Such a shame
Quickmoose said:
Bless him Maldini has a lot more work to do..than me...my job was/is easy.....
anything at all to add Maldy? apart from snide personal remarks, and cute emojis I mean??
Nope...thought not....
Seem to remember you being keen on the emojis too anything at all to add Maldy? apart from snide personal remarks, and cute emojis I mean??
Nope...thought not....
Ok let’s call a truce and agree to disagree - it is boring for everybody else to read
HighwayStar said:
Mclaren Senna
https://youtu.be/yvljnF_cU84
Very polished vid, unlike this ol' shed rattling away https://youtu.be/yvljnF_cU84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLkFlvKqbZY
Also why isn't McLaren posing in 4k, tightwads.
Edited by hyphen on Friday 9th March 20:08
isaldiri said:
Are you so sure about the diffuser or front splitter if the P15 does go to GTE (notwithstanding the fact I still think it'd be daft to send that car rather than a 720)?
Maybe you're right. Going from the GT GTE in profile.
The diffuser "probably" has to be shadowed by the wing. And I guess the splitter wuld only be able to extend Xmm from the front of the car. Yet with the raised nose, it can be quite large behind that point
Yet, despite the Ford having mental aero, it still looks great!
HighwayStar said:
Mclaren Senna
https://youtu.be/yvljnF_cU84
Half the video is designed to make you think Senna himself designed and built this himself! https://youtu.be/yvljnF_cU84
(And we all know the only supercar he helped with was the NSX)Edited by Rich_W on Friday 9th March 21:25
Rich_W said:
The diffuser "probably" has to be shadowed by the wing. And I guess the splitter wuld only be able to extend Xmm from the front of the car. Yet with the raised nose, it can be quite large behind that point
Interesting observation. The wing and diffuser line up perfectly and the splitter appears to project a suspiciously similar amount to the Ford measured from the nose... and I agree the Ford looks spectacularEdited by anonymous-user on Friday 9th March 22:57
Rich_W said:
isaldiri said:
Are you so sure about the diffuser or front splitter if the P15 does go to GTE (notwithstanding the fact I still think it'd be daft to send that car rather than a 720)?
Maybe you're right. Going from the GT GTE in profile.The diffuser "probably" has to be shadowed by the wing. And I guess the splitter wuld only be able to extend Xmm from the front of the car. Yet with the raised nose, it can be quite large behind that point
Yet, despite the Ford having mental aero, it still looks great!
HighwayStar said:
Mclaren Senna
https://youtu.be/yvljnF_cU84
Half the video is designed to make you think Senna himself designed and built this himself! https://youtu.be/yvljnF_cU84
(And we all know the only supercar he helped with was the NSX)Edited by Rich_W on Friday 9th March 21:25
Lol... seriously!! Who would believe that?
HighwayStar said:
Lol... seriously!! Who would believe that?
Dunno. Clearly McLaren's Marketing department feel it's crucial to evoke memories of Mr SennaIn a 1m43 video. The first 48 seconds are of a racing driver that never even saw this car. There's 38seconds of the car going around a track. (then some small print)
TBH I think most of that is due to this lightly short sighted nature of naming the car as such. Given that they've always had short letter/number names. F1, P1, SLR, 675LT etc it comes out of nowhere to suddenly use words anyway.
An alternative I just thought of would have been 800RD (or what ever the HP is) Mr Dennis did such amazing things for that company. He DESERVES some official recognition!
Ferrari do this sort of PR Video nonsense a bit better IMO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS6Qe0tiIq8
So Italian "wiiith a thee preety girl"
Rich_W said:
Dunno. Clearly McLaren's Marketing department feel it's crucial to evoke memories of Mr Senna
In a 1m43 video. The first 48 seconds are of a racing driver that never even saw this car. There's 38seconds of the car going around a track. (then some small print)
TBH I think most of that is due to this lightly short sighted nature of naming the car as such. Given that they've always had short letter/number names. F1, P1, SLR, 675LT etc it comes out of nowhere to suddenly use words anyway.
An alternative I just thought of would have been 800RD (or what ever the HP is) Mr Dennis did such amazing things for that company. He DESERVES some official recognition!
Ferrari do this sort of PR Video nonsense a bit better IMO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS6Qe0tiIq8
So Italian "wiiith a thee preety girl"
Hmm...I can’t help feel that naming a car after Ron would have been a marketing disaster for a company often criticised for being clinical and lacking emotion. In a 1m43 video. The first 48 seconds are of a racing driver that never even saw this car. There's 38seconds of the car going around a track. (then some small print)
TBH I think most of that is due to this lightly short sighted nature of naming the car as such. Given that they've always had short letter/number names. F1, P1, SLR, 675LT etc it comes out of nowhere to suddenly use words anyway.
An alternative I just thought of would have been 800RD (or what ever the HP is) Mr Dennis did such amazing things for that company. He DESERVES some official recognition!
Ferrari do this sort of PR Video nonsense a bit better IMO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS6Qe0tiIq8
So Italian "wiiith a thee preety girl"
I don’t think they are implying Ayrton designed the car. It’s been over 20 years since his death which would have made that tricky.
Personally I don’t see a problem with a company honouring their most successful driver.
If you ever visit McLaren you’ll see memories of Ayrton everywhere, his cars, his helmets, his trophies, even his quotes on the walls.
Within McLaren Ayrton is very much alive.
I guess you could view it cynically but I prefer to see it more positively. Glass half full if you like.
After all, love or loathe it, it is a limited edition, seriously quick car optimised for the track. If they gave his name to a hatchback or god forbid an SUV I would agree it would be horribly cynical.
This was an interesting watch:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HSc9YzwaK98
Edited by Maldini35 on Saturday 10th March 17:45
HighwayStar said:
1781cc said:
RIP McLaren - it was interesting there for a bit, way to sh*t on your legacy with a time attack inspired car.
Such a shame
RIP... Seriously?Such a shame
Ron Dennis would never have allowed this to have been born, neither would Gordon Murray.
Maldini35 said:
Personally I don’t see a problem with a company honouring their most successful driver.
If you ever visit McLaren you’ll see memories of Ayrton everywhere, his cars, his helmets, his trophies, even his quotes on the walls.
Within McLaren Ayrton is very much alive.
I guess you could view it cynically but I prefer to see it more positively. Glass half full if you like.
After all, love or loathe it, it is a limited edition, seriously quick car optimised for the track. If they gave his name to a hatchback or god forbid an SUV I would agree it would be horribly cynical.
This was an interesting watch:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HSc9YzwaK98
My "concern" (though of course its not my problem) IS that when the supercede the Senna. And given the way McLaren operate that'll be all of 4 years away! What do they call the next car? They have to coin a phrase "arrived prematurely" If you ever visit McLaren you’ll see memories of Ayrton everywhere, his cars, his helmets, his trophies, even his quotes on the walls.
Within McLaren Ayrton is very much alive.
I guess you could view it cynically but I prefer to see it more positively. Glass half full if you like.
After all, love or loathe it, it is a limited edition, seriously quick car optimised for the track. If they gave his name to a hatchback or god forbid an SUV I would agree it would be horribly cynical.
This was an interesting watch:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HSc9YzwaK98
with the name. If they wanted to use the name appropriately imo they should have used it in the same way Ferari use "Speciale" or Porsche use "RS" so you have a "720 Senna" version. "675LT Senna". "P1 Senna". The harder, track focused version will have than nomenclature to differente from the standard car. Addition to that is that P15 would be a clear evolution of 720s with extra wings, diffusers etc and wouldn't look like P15!
Google reveals a nice looking Photoshop/render. I like this because it apes P1GTR, it has the open back like P1 so you get the "brand" look onto the next car. Its a classic test. Cover the badges, is it a BMW/Rolls/Lotus etc
Senna if you covered over the badges doesn't shout "McLaren"
1781cc said:
Ron Dennis would never have allowed this to have been born, neither would Gordon Murray.
I don't imagine Ron would ever publically express an opinion on this car. Too professional, even when the company usurped him! Gordon might be able to be persuaded. Anyone know his thoughts?
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