Cars that made no impact or contribution to motoring
Discussion
rxe said:
texaxile said:
Oh give over, under the dull body is most of an Alfasud, a fine handling if slightly porous beast. I always wanted get a Nissan Cherry Europe (the Nissan version) which us utterly bland and stuff a quad-cam 33 engine in it. That would have been most amusing.
The Arna could have been great, if they'd got Nissan to do the reliability and the boring bits like selecting hard wearing fabric, and left Alfa the handling and looks.
Instead they got Nissan to do the styling, and Alfa were handed the rustproofing and the electrics. So that went brilliantly.
Instead they got Nissan to do the styling, and Alfa were handed the rustproofing and the electrics. So that went brilliantly.
Mansilla said:
The Arna could have been great, if they'd got Nissan to do the reliability and the boring bits like selecting hard wearing fabric, and left Alfa the handling and looks.
Instead they got Nissan to do the styling, and Alfa were handed the rustproofing and the electrics. So that went brilliantly.
I saw one on the M69 in January last year. Though it was probably a Nissan Cherry N12 in disguise. Instead they got Nissan to do the styling, and Alfa were handed the rustproofing and the electrics. So that went brilliantly.
The last Arna left the roads in 2007.
Limpet said:
I cannot think of a single thing it did better than the Cavalier it replaced, and was far less reliable, at least initially. Coolest door mirrors on the planet, mind.
I always rather liked them. A friend of my dad's had a GSI when I was a kid and thought it was a great looking thing, and even better in estate form. Not the best car ever, for sure, but they came out the factory with body kits, recaro seats and a V6. They even did a homologation super touring model, and had a pretty cool BTCC car. Some of the cars mentioned, ie: Mitsubishi Charisma (lack of), and the horrid Nissan Almera Mk2 had no effort thrown at them, no motorsport versions and no worthwhile special editions, but the Vectra surely deserves a bit of credit?
In principle it could have been great for Renault (the 206cc was a smash for Peugeot) in reality, no one wanted one.
Everyone bought a 306 instead.
CAR Magazines headline was 'how could Ford have got it so wrong'. That said, it did spawn the Cosworth, saving grace and all that.
This was one Citroen could not afford to get wrong. The Saxo VT models accounted for half of all Saxo sales, and was the Max Power hero, a car of the time. I had one from new at 24, loved it. Drove a neighbours C2 VTS, it was crap, and unlike it's daddy it looked crap too.
Everyone bought a 306 instead.
CAR Magazines headline was 'how could Ford have got it so wrong'. That said, it did spawn the Cosworth, saving grace and all that.
This was one Citroen could not afford to get wrong. The Saxo VT models accounted for half of all Saxo sales, and was the Max Power hero, a car of the time. I had one from new at 24, loved it. Drove a neighbours C2 VTS, it was crap, and unlike it's daddy it looked crap too.
Edited by Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah on Thursday 22 March 22:21
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