The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)
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Dromedary66 said:
There was a cyclist going the other way who was well within the bike lane. There was no need to hang so far out, he does it only to collect altercation on his helmet cam.
It's a pity that you've received lots of ire on social media but maybe if you'd watched your side of the road you'd not have been in this situation?phil4 said:
He's got a Youtube channel he needs to keep going, of course he's going to have a word. Perhaps he'll also behave in a way he knows to be legal, but which he's well aware will wind up others. Or I could just be too cynical.
Only speaking from my experience and can't assume what the guy was thinking but it's usually a lesser of two evils:I don't use crap cycle lanes because of the surface/ironworks/detritus (conkers the other day!) which can be dangerous (even not on a racing bike with thin wheels) because I hope/think/expect that other road users will give space/time/consideration to me.
If I was on an NSL road pootling along I would probably use a cycle lane even if it's bad. If I'm in London on a Cycle Superhighway I'm golden as they're mainly great.
As a valid road user using the road in a valid way the cyclist has done nothing wrong. The instructor has no business being an instructor with that knowledge and attitude.
Cycle lanes often suck. Official guidance is that there should be 75 cm between the cyclist and kerb. A lot of cycle lanes feel about 2 ft wide. I.e. the cyclist should be riding outside the cycle lane 
. And if you ride in the cycle lane, only other cyclists (who happen to be on 4 wheels) will leave 1.5m when overtaking. More training of drivers is the answer, making this instructor a t
t of the highest order. And there are definitely times when it's appropriate to take the centre of the lane, i.e. when travelling with the flow of traffic, or when it is unsafe for a vehicle to pass.
. And if you ride in the cycle lane, only other cyclists (who happen to be on 4 wheels) will leave 1.5m when overtaking. More training of drivers is the answer, making this instructor a tt of the highest order. And there are definitely times when it's appropriate to take the centre of the lane, i.e. when travelling with the flow of traffic, or when it is unsafe for a vehicle to pass.Driver101 said:
Driving instructor v Aberdeen's DCW.
Not a big incident, but what chance have cyclists got when their instructor is feeding them with this type of instruction?
He's had to take his Facebook page down due to the attention and he's been reported to anyone that would listen.
https://youtu.be/1q5pWfhk_L4
Why do these cycling vigilante types feel the need to put arrows, text and silly noises all over their videos, haven't watched beyond that as the chap is obviously a tool frankly!Not a big incident, but what chance have cyclists got when their instructor is feeding them with this type of instruction?
He's had to take his Facebook page down due to the attention and he's been reported to anyone that would listen.
https://youtu.be/1q5pWfhk_L4
G13NVL said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
What is that guy thinking just mooching about in what’s left of that white car while people are skidding past and still crashing! king idiot. Stupidity knows no bounds sometimes...Biker's Nemesis said:
WTF, are the all fleeing a zombie apocalypse or something?cb1965 said:
Driver101 said:
Driving instructor v Aberdeen's DCW.
Not a big incident, but what chance have cyclists got when their instructor is feeding them with this type of instruction?
He's had to take his Facebook page down due to the attention and he's been reported to anyone that would listen.
https://youtu.be/1q5pWfhk_L4
Why do these cycling vigilante types feel the need to put arrows, text and silly noises all over their videos, haven't watched beyond that as the chap is obviously a tool frankly!Not a big incident, but what chance have cyclists got when their instructor is feeding them with this type of instruction?
He's had to take his Facebook page down due to the attention and he's been reported to anyone that would listen.
https://youtu.be/1q5pWfhk_L4
Maybe like the instructor in the video some people clearly require obvious things pointed out to them?
hornmeister said:
There was no reason for cycling as wide as the cyclist was at the point of overtake.
The "cycle lane" was plenty wide enough looks like a metre or more.
If the cyclist buys a racing bike with narrow tyres which can't cope with a drain cover, then he is in the same situation as someone who lowers their car and can't get over speed bumps. The vehicle isn't fit for the road and should give way when conditions dictate.
Any one that tries to dominate the road by using the "primary position" is likely to be the sort of person that causes issues.
That being said the instructor should understand the rules of the road and should have told his pupil to stay back until it was safe to do so, no matter how much of a bell the cyclist is being.
Tooting after the event is surely a driving test failure?
Feel sorry for the learner the instructor should know better.
Both bell ends as is the case with a lot of the dashcam examples.
My view as well.
I ride a bike everyday ( sometimes a carbon race bike with the really narrow tyres) and even on that, I would have used that bike lane, just steer around the man hole covers-its not rocket science!
He was riding too far out, pissing people off and making himself more likely to be hit.
Obviously, the "instructor" is a plank but the cyclist is a dhead, so they deserve each other!
The "cycle lane" was plenty wide enough looks like a metre or more.
If the cyclist buys a racing bike with narrow tyres which can't cope with a drain cover, then he is in the same situation as someone who lowers their car and can't get over speed bumps. The vehicle isn't fit for the road and should give way when conditions dictate.
Any one that tries to dominate the road by using the "primary position" is likely to be the sort of person that causes issues.
That being said the instructor should understand the rules of the road and should have told his pupil to stay back until it was safe to do so, no matter how much of a bell the cyclist is being.
Tooting after the event is surely a driving test failure?
Feel sorry for the learner the instructor should know better.
Both bell ends as is the case with a lot of the dashcam examples.
My view as well.
I ride a bike everyday ( sometimes a carbon race bike with the really narrow tyres) and even on that, I would have used that bike lane, just steer around the man hole covers-its not rocket science!
He was riding too far out, pissing people off and making himself more likely to be hit.
Obviously, the "instructor" is a plank but the cyclist is a d
head, so they deserve each other!Driver101 said:
cb1965 said:
Driver101 said:
Driving instructor v Aberdeen's DCW.
Not a big incident, but what chance have cyclists got when their instructor is feeding them with this type of instruction?
He's had to take his Facebook page down due to the attention and he's been reported to anyone that would listen.
https://youtu.be/1q5pWfhk_L4
Why do these cycling vigilante types feel the need to put arrows, text and silly noises all over their videos, haven't watched beyond that as the chap is obviously a tool frankly!Not a big incident, but what chance have cyclists got when their instructor is feeding them with this type of instruction?
He's had to take his Facebook page down due to the attention and he's been reported to anyone that would listen.
https://youtu.be/1q5pWfhk_L4
Maybe like the instructor in the video some people clearly require obvious things pointed out to them?
t who feels the need to have a YT channel to make himself feel like the 'big man'.Dromedary66 said:
There was a cyclist going the other way who was well within the bike lane. There was no need to hang so far out, he does it only to collect altercation on his helmet cam.
Yes, at 52 seconds, and he looks to be a ginger as well!! lolI think the main difference is the cyclist who can ride within his cycle lane doesn't have a helmet cam on.....
cb1965 said:
Driver101 said:
cb1965 said:
Driver101 said:
Driving instructor v Aberdeen's DCW.
Not a big incident, but what chance have cyclists got when their instructor is feeding them with this type of instruction?
He's had to take his Facebook page down due to the attention and he's been reported to anyone that would listen.
https://youtu.be/1q5pWfhk_L4
Why do these cycling vigilante types feel the need to put arrows, text and silly noises all over their videos, haven't watched beyond that as the chap is obviously a tool frankly!Not a big incident, but what chance have cyclists got when their instructor is feeding them with this type of instruction?
He's had to take his Facebook page down due to the attention and he's been reported to anyone that would listen.
https://youtu.be/1q5pWfhk_L4
Maybe like the instructor in the video some people clearly require obvious things pointed out to them?
t who feels the need to have a YT channel to make himself feel like the 'big man'.He is whiny, but he often has a point.
He is a knob head, when they start using primary position etc unfortunately that automatically tars him. Yes the road is st but also he should adjust speed to conditions, which cyclist seem not to do. Also so many bikers with queues behind them never pull over, they just get a hard on for confrontation. Yes the driver instructor was a pray as well.
t but also he should adjust speed to conditions, which cyclist seem not to do. Also so many bikers with queues behind them never pull over, they just get a hard on for confrontation. Yes the driver instructor was a pray as well.cb1965 said:
Driver101 said:
cb1965 said:
Driver101 said:
Driving instructor v Aberdeen's DCW.
Not a big incident, but what chance have cyclists got when their instructor is feeding them with this type of instruction?
He's had to take his Facebook page down due to the attention and he's been reported to anyone that would listen.
https://youtu.be/1q5pWfhk_L4
Why do these cycling vigilante types feel the need to put arrows, text and silly noises all over their videos, haven't watched beyond that as the chap is obviously a tool frankly!Not a big incident, but what chance have cyclists got when their instructor is feeding them with this type of instruction?
He's had to take his Facebook page down due to the attention and he's been reported to anyone that would listen.
https://youtu.be/1q5pWfhk_L4
Maybe like the instructor in the video some people clearly require obvious things pointed out to them?
t who feels the need to have a YT channel to make himself feel like the 'big man'.Can't find the HC reference, but it's something on the lines of you shouldn't park in a staggered cycle lane. It's late and I am off to bed, BFN.
Edited by Vipers on Friday 21st September 00:58
cb1965 said:
Driver101 said:
Driving instructor v Aberdeen's DCW.
Not a big incident, but what chance have cyclists got when their instructor is feeding them with this type of instruction?
He's had to take his Facebook page down due to the attention and he's been reported to anyone that would listen.
https://youtu.be/1q5pWfhk_L4
Why do these cycling vigilante types feel the need to put arrows, text and silly noises all over their videos, haven't watched beyond that as the chap is obviously a tool frankly!Not a big incident, but what chance have cyclists got when their instructor is feeding them with this type of instruction?
He's had to take his Facebook page down due to the attention and he's been reported to anyone that would listen.
https://youtu.be/1q5pWfhk_L4
Liek the way his pupil is putting her two pennorth in, being the road expert she obviously is (Having passed her theory two weeks ago)
KAgantua said:
cb1965 said:
Driver101 said:
Driving instructor v Aberdeen's DCW.
Not a big incident, but what chance have cyclists got when their instructor is feeding them with this type of instruction?
He's had to take his Facebook page down due to the attention and he's been reported to anyone that would listen.
https://youtu.be/1q5pWfhk_L4
Why do these cycling vigilante types feel the need to put arrows, text and silly noises all over their videos, haven't watched beyond that as the chap is obviously a tool frankly!Not a big incident, but what chance have cyclists got when their instructor is feeding them with this type of instruction?
He's had to take his Facebook page down due to the attention and he's been reported to anyone that would listen.
https://youtu.be/1q5pWfhk_L4
If most people encountered the situation above they'd ignore it or have a quick exchange and move on.... normality...... whereas Mr. Sanctimonious Bell End here inflames the situation by riding in the middle of the road to ensure he generates enough friction with his 'victim' to get plenty of self righteous exchanges on his 'footage' and then rushes home to edit it and put it up on to his channel to show us all how right he is and how wrong someone else is. They're weirdos frankly and could do with staying away from normal society until they can better integrate as rational human beings.
Skipping over what other cyclists or drivers might or have done in other situations, and no I wouldn't have chased him down and got sanctimonious either (and I don't have a camera).
- That road is not wide enough for a vehicle lane and a cycle path - the dashed lines are an admission of that.
- The overtake was by far the worst in the whole video, and actually the only bad one - dangerously close to both the bike and the oncoming RR.
- Even if the bike had been in the cycle lane, it's still alarmingly close.
- They couldn't have known there was a much bigger gap coming up a few cars later - but given the level of traffic it was a reasonable bet they wouldn't have to wait long (witness all those who got round safely). And it's a driving lesson not a mercy dash.
- Normally, he was about as far out from the kerb as I'd have been (and not actually that far out of the cycle lane), given the hazards he's pointed out and other factors - the paintwork for the first junction he passes is essentially missing meaning some muppets will think the edge of the cycle path is the give way line and just wander up to it without looking; there's always the chance of glass/other debris which gets swept to the curb by traffic; and - for whatever reason - the closer you are to the curb, the closer you tend to end up getting passed.
- He moves out when there are hazards - junctions etc. Again, I'd do that to discourage people passing and then swinging left if something develops.
poo at Paul's said:
Dromedary66 said:
There was a cyclist going the other way who was well within the bike lane. There was no need to hang so far out, he does it only to collect altercation on his helmet cam.
Yes, at 52 seconds, and he looks to be a ginger as well!! lolI think the main difference is the cyclist who can ride within his cycle lane doesn't have a helmet cam on.....
I've had my shoulder brushed by the side of a bus and a mate got smacked by a wingmirror when riding in that position.
And no, I don't have a camera.
budgie smuggler said:
poo at Paul's said:
Dromedary66 said:
There was a cyclist going the other way who was well within the bike lane. There was no need to hang so far out, he does it only to collect altercation on his helmet cam.
Yes, at 52 seconds, and he looks to be a ginger as well!! lolI think the main difference is the cyclist who can ride within his cycle lane doesn't have a helmet cam on.....
I've had my shoulder brushed by the side of a bus and a mate got smacked by a wingmirror when riding in that position.
And no, I don't have a camera.
Vipers said:
I wonder what other miss information some instructors pass on to their students, worrying. Maybe explains why so many drivers in Aberdeen have absolutely no idea about box junctions, slip roads, and indicating on roundabouts.
It possibly explains why many drivers on PH don't understand many rules of the road either.You only have to look at a few of the comments within the last 24 hours above here.
It's not even worthwhile pointing them out, there's many a cloth ear on here.
Vipers said:
I wonder what other miss information some instructors pass on to their students, worrying. Maybe explains why so many drivers in Aberdeen have absolutely no idea about box junctions, slip roads, and indicating on roundabouts.
The driving standard in Aberdeen is terrible. It really does stand out a mile. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff