The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)
Discussion
fakenews said:
Driver101 said:
Another wrong assumption from you.
So you know differently? You were in the Peugeot and fixated on it's speedo? Here's a question, at what speed does the Peugeot need to be going for you to see the Morgan driver not 100% at fault? You might also want to see how far someone can brake in a couple of seconds - given the Morgan wasn't stationary I still don't believe the Pug was doing 50mph. But we'll never know.Driver101 said:
You've got a really bad way of undermining your bad opinion. Please just let it go.
So I'm not undermining my opinion then? Just want to be clear.You accused me, and others, of having an attitude that would make us excuse the "next idiot DCW" that caused an avoidable head on crash. You have already said people shouldn't make assumptioms, then continue to bumble on with your own assumptions and hypothesis. You've suggested the Peugeot was speeding, blind, showing off or trying to prove a point.
Your analogy is poor as the Peugeot didn't have a head on crash and it wasn't a DCW trying to prove a point. The footage was recorded from the roadside.
I am aware how much speed cars can shed in 2 seconds. I'm also aware how bad cars with poor brakes and tyres on dusty roads can travel on top of reaction time. We had a driver safety course at work with a real car rigged up to to show reaction time. It was common for people to take over 1 second to react. A quick Google suggests accident investigators allow 1.5 seconds for reaction time.
I don't see anything extraordinary in that video. The Morgan pulled out in front of the Peugeot and the Peugeot made an attempt to avoid the accident. The rest you're just making up from your own assumptions. You've got zero substance to back up your alternative theories.
Last post on the matter as it's been done to the death 10 times.
Driver101 said:
There's not a scrap of evidence to say the Peugeot was speeding or showing off. The fact they got on the brakes and horn shows they can't be blind.
The Morgan driver was 100% at fault.
Not trying to absolve the Morgan driver completely, because as well as not looking enough he/she was also on the wrong side of the link between the 2 carriageways, but it's a point worth making though that if the Peugeot was speeding then he/she is automatically partly to blame. The Morgan driver was 100% at fault.
Does anyone know where that Morgan/Peugeot road is, so we can Google the approach, there may be signs hinting that the Peugeot direction should be slowing down. Rather like this road (picture below) I know in North Hampshire where there are signs on the approach ... it used to be 2 lanes as well, and someone I knew insisted on doing 70 because "that's the limit", despite signs saying double bend, crossroads, hump bridge, reduce speed now, etc etc, so 70 was plainly inappropriate. There used to be "SLOW" painted in the road 8 times as well.
(P.S. "FakeNews" type posters can ignore these posts if they like)
M4cruiser said:
Not trying to absolve the Morgan driver completely, because as well as not looking enough he/she was also on the wrong side of the link between the 2 carriageways, but it's a point worth making though that if the Peugeot was speeding then he/she is automatically partly to blame.
Does anyone know where that Morgan/Peugeot road is, so we can Google the approach, there may be signs hinting that the Peugeot direction should be slowing down. Rather like this road (picture below) I know in North Hampshire where there are signs on the approach ... it used to be 2 lanes as well, and someone I knew insisted on doing 70 because "that's the limit", despite signs saying double bend, crossroads, hump bridge, reduce speed now, etc etc, so 70 was plainly inappropriate. There used to be "SLOW" painted in the road 8 times as well.
(P.S. "FakeNews" type posters can ignore these posts if they like)
There is already a big thread on this from last year or could have been the year before when it all happened. That will probably answer your questions Does anyone know where that Morgan/Peugeot road is, so we can Google the approach, there may be signs hinting that the Peugeot direction should be slowing down. Rather like this road (picture below) I know in North Hampshire where there are signs on the approach ... it used to be 2 lanes as well, and someone I knew insisted on doing 70 because "that's the limit", despite signs saying double bend, crossroads, hump bridge, reduce speed now, etc etc, so 70 was plainly inappropriate. There used to be "SLOW" painted in the road 8 times as well.
(P.S. "FakeNews" type posters can ignore these posts if they like)
Monkeylegend said:
M4cruiser said:
Not trying to absolve the Morgan driver completely, because as well as not looking enough he/she was also on the wrong side of the link between the 2 carriageways, but it's a point worth making though that if the Peugeot was speeding then he/she is automatically partly to blame.
Does anyone know where that Morgan/Peugeot road is, so we can Google the approach, there may be signs hinting that the Peugeot direction should be slowing down. Rather like this road (picture below) I know in North Hampshire where there are signs on the approach ... it used to be 2 lanes as well, and someone I knew insisted on doing 70 because "that's the limit", despite signs saying double bend, crossroads, hump bridge, reduce speed now, etc etc, so 70 was plainly inappropriate. There used to be "SLOW" painted in the road 8 times as well.
(P.S. "FakeNews" type posters can ignore these posts if they like)
There is already a big thread on this from last year or could have been the year before when it all happened. That will probably answer your questions Does anyone know where that Morgan/Peugeot road is, so we can Google the approach, there may be signs hinting that the Peugeot direction should be slowing down. Rather like this road (picture below) I know in North Hampshire where there are signs on the approach ... it used to be 2 lanes as well, and someone I knew insisted on doing 70 because "that's the limit", despite signs saying double bend, crossroads, hump bridge, reduce speed now, etc etc, so 70 was plainly inappropriate. There used to be "SLOW" painted in the road 8 times as well.
(P.S. "FakeNews" type posters can ignore these posts if they like)
Around here at least, if you pull out within visible distance of another car, they usually speed up and glue themselves to your rear end to prove some pathetic point or create a situation needlessly, it's especially obvious when theirs another car behind them as you can see that gap increase rapidly.
Happened only yesterday on 40 limit road dual carriageway, guy speeds up, tailgates me instead of overtaking, I then turn into a petrol station, he also does, I get out and gesture "wtf was that?" he couldn't even look at me. Big man not so big outside his cage.
Edited by lyonspride on Wednesday 4th April 14:54
Give it a rest, the Morgan/Pug was discussed to death when it happened
Crash for Cash cyclist, I would have just driven around him, let him make his complaint and present the video evidence of fraud after he's already made a false statement to the police.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNmQnrI3ut8
Crash for Cash cyclist, I would have just driven around him, let him make his complaint and present the video evidence of fraud after he's already made a false statement to the police.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNmQnrI3ut8
4x4Tyke said:
Give it a rest, the Morgan/Pug was discussed to death when it happened
Crash for Cash cyclist, I would have just driven around him, let him make his complaint and present the video evidence of fraud after he's already made a false statement to the police.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNmQnrI3ut8
Cash for crash cyclist, or another fake video for YouTube hits?Crash for Cash cyclist, I would have just driven around him, let him make his complaint and present the video evidence of fraud after he's already made a false statement to the police.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNmQnrI3ut8
If someone fell off their bike that far in front of me my initial reaction would be they've fallen off and not I've got a dashcam lines.
4x4Tyke said:
Give it a rest, the Morgan/Pug was discussed to death when it happened
Crash for Cash cyclist, I would have just driven around him, let him make his complaint and present the video evidence of fraud after he's already made a false statement to the police.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNmQnrI3ut8
That's almost funny. What a dick. Crash for Cash cyclist, I would have just driven around him, let him make his complaint and present the video evidence of fraud after he's already made a false statement to the police.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNmQnrI3ut8
fakenews said:
The Moose said:
I didn’t find that clear from your post (obviously)!
So you assumed too? Now, what can we learn from this? 
If you want people to understand what you write, then it's best to write clearly.
Oh, hang on, let me add the passive aggressive smiley
fakenews said:
The pug was clearly ignoring the 50mph limit
Disagreed. But let's just pretend the 206 driver was speeding for a second. The photo of the road you have posted show that the idiot in the Morgan should have easily seen a car coming even if it was speeding.
The Morgan driver is 100% at fault for pulling out straight in front of another vehicle without even looking in a pathetic attempt to show off. I suspect his insurance company agrees with that verdict.
MrGTI6 said:
The photo of the road you have posted
Wasn't me. Did they take your view too? Did they? Oh... 
The Moose said:
If you want people to understand what you write, then it's best to write clearly.
This is what was said for reference...fakenews said:
SmoothCriminal said:
That was no "organised" meet or a few riders out for a weekend ride.
I've seen those
s on quads blasting around Southend and down the a127 through red lights speeding. Blasting red lights Stopping cars at junctions so they can all go through at once fk em need more stingers down there.
And if you and your mates ride like that around a police officer telling you to stop you deserve to get stingered.
You need to understand the history behind the meet and why some wish for such meets to continue (these aren't yobs btw). As for the quad bikes, this is usually just travelers coming down the A127 on a regular basis. Please don't get those two confused.I've seen those
s on quads blasting around Southend and down the a127 through red lights speeding. Blasting red lights Stopping cars at junctions so they can all go through at once fk em need more stingers down there.And if you and your mates ride like that around a police officer telling you to stop you deserve to get stingered.
Second Best said:
I really do wonder how some people's brains work , I've taken a wrong turning so I'll carry on and find a safe place to turn round, no I'll just pull into fast moving traffic , I'm sure they'll stop A couple of weeks ago I was on the M6 in lane one in front stopped on the hard shoulder a motorhome towing a car , I got maybe 4-5 seconds from him at 70mph when his indicator came on and he pulled into lane one from a standing start , I'd already checked the mirror for an escape route which was lucky as I needed it.
I'm guessing the motorhome driver wasn't 17 so how can a driver with any experience think it's OK to just pull onto a motorway at 5mph
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