Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)

Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)

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KHK

482 posts

42 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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Anishvin posted this on IG stories last night. Pretty sure he's taking a dig at TGE.

I don't get this Anish guy at all. His YT and IG was all about bragging about supercars he owned and had on order, never said a word about losing money. Now that he's not in a financial position to buy these cars he starts bashing them and giving others advice.




xmyph

1,538 posts

129 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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At the risk of turning this into another Brexit discussion, Shmee touched on Brexit in his latest video. Personally I think it's such a divisive issue that he would have been better off keeping quiet.

Shmee said:
everybody in the UK is so so so unbelievable bored of this topic
Not true. Leavers want the referendum result and democracy to be respected. They are fed up that rich entitled remainers are trying everything in the book and beyond to stop Brexit. This includes remainers saying that everyone is bored of Brexit so let's call the whole thing off.

Brexit is incredibly important. What it's really about is whether the UK can govern itself or have the Germans and French govern for us and be a small part of the EU Empire/Reich. In a nutshell Brexit is British independence.

Shmee said:
public weren't really informed well enough on the topic to make the decision
So the public are stupid? It couldn't possibly be anything to do with the rich getting ever richer, while the poor have their wages driven down by freedom of movement, reliance on foodbanks, no school places, high accommodation costs, poor pensions, overstretched NHS, student loans, loss of key industries and not to mention the loss of sovereignty that I have already touched upon?

Admittedly the politicians in Westminster are partly to blame but Brexit offered the British working class the chance to change their lot and given they had nothing to lose as many don't have anything anyway, they voted for it. This was despite all the project fear from the vested interests that benefit from EU membership.

Shnozz

22,096 posts

229 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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KHK said:
Anishvin posted this on IG stories last night. Pretty sure he's taking a dig at TGE.

I don't get this Anish guy at all. His YT and IG was all about bragging about supercars he owned and had on order, never said a word about losing money. Now that he's not in a financial position to buy these cars he starts bashing them and giving others advice.
Unless his dad has reduced his allowance I’d be surprised if he wasn’t in a position to buy normal super cars.

Another smoke and mirrors load of bull about property investment, forex trading, blah blah blah.

I used to do business with the fathers company back in a former life.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/...

playalistic

2,266 posts

122 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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xmyph said:
So the public are stupid? It couldn't possibly be anything to do with the rich getting ever richer, while the poor have their wages driven down by freedom of movement, reliance on foodbanks, no school places, high accommodation costs, poor pensions, overstretched NHS, student loans, loss of key industries and not to mention the loss of sovereignty that I have already touched upon?

Admittedly the politicians in Westminster are partly to blame but Brexit offered the British working class the chance to change their lot and given they had nothing to lose as many don't have anything anyway, they voted for it. This was despite all the project fear from the vested interests that benefit from EU membership.
Please fk off. Thanks.

Craig_89

251 posts

134 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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As Tony said in one of Archies/TGE's videos, it all comes down to how much you can afford to lose rather than how much you can afford to spend.

It's clear that the likes of Tim can afford to take the hit on big depreciation and budget for these losses but those who are all in with little equity will find themselves the wrong way round sooner or later. What's unclear to me is how the likes of Archie can continue to order new cars in the current market as he's been very honest in that if he binned his GT3 on track he'd be in a big hole.

Shmee

7,565 posts

171 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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xmyph said:
Stuff
Please don't misinterpret things, nobody expected the current mess at all and we'll all be better off when it's done!

The biggest part of the discussion is the collapsing supercar market globally, which currently is the most dry in the UK due to our specific situation.

Scrump

10,571 posts

116 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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There are plenty of other threads discussing Brexit.
Please keep this one on topic.

RSbandit

1,249 posts

90 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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Shnozz said:
Unless his dad has reduced his allowance I’d be surprised if he wasn’t in a position to buy normal super cars.

Another smoke and mirrors load of bull about property investment, forex trading, blah blah blah.

I used to do business with the fathers company back in a former life.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/...
Indeed it's probably a cut in allowance from his old man but given that he's a complete bullst artist he'll try to spin that as look at how shrewd I am not buying new supercars in this falling mkt. I mean he even claimed in other vids how he was able to flip his cars for a profit ( these were normal production ones) if you were selling back to a dealer that is simply not possible given they'd have your eyes out after 6 months or so.

Dynamic Space Wizard

785 posts

62 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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playalistic said:
xmyph said:
So the public are stupid? It couldn't possibly be anything to do with the rich getting ever richer, while the poor have their wages driven down by freedom of movement, reliance on foodbanks, no school places, high accommodation costs, poor pensions, overstretched NHS, student loans, loss of key industries and not to mention the loss of sovereignty that I have already touched upon?

Admittedly the politicians in Westminster are partly to blame but Brexit offered the British working class the chance to change their lot and given they had nothing to lose as many don't have anything anyway, they voted for it. This was despite all the project fear from the vested interests that benefit from EU membership.
Please fk off. Thanks.
Wow! It seemed like a really good, clear, concise summery of his thoughts to me.

S11Steve

5,875 posts

142 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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Shmee said:
xmyph said:
Stuff
Please don't misinterpret things, nobody expected the current mess at all and we'll all be better off when it's done!

The biggest part of the discussion is the collapsing supercar market globally, which currently is the most dry in the UK due to our specific situation.
It isn't just supercars - the whole domestic car market is on tenterhooks whilst the "B Word" continues. The uncertainty has been making people from the manufactures down to consumers slightly more wary or cautious about making any sort of medium-long term (2-3 years ish) commitments on anything.
Most of the industry, or certainly on the fleet side, is prepared for either outcome, deal or otherwise, but this constant delaying and threat of legal/parliament action is having more of a short term impact than anything else.

The supercar market is going to feel it harder, especially on an individual level where currency fluctuations and financing costs can not be absorbed as readily into a business model as "normal" fleet Mondeos and Transits for example.

washingitagain

893 posts

15 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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Craig_89 said:
As Tony said in one of Archies/TGE's videos, it all comes down to how much you can afford to lose rather than how much you can afford to spend.

It's clear that the likes of Tim can afford to take the hit on big depreciation and budget for these losses but those who are all in with little equity will find themselves the wrong way round sooner or later. What's unclear to me is how the likes of Archie can continue to order new cars in the current market as he's been very honest in that if he binned his GT3 on track he'd be in a big hole.
And don't forget, for the likes of the high value youtubers, the cars are a business asset and most business assets depreciate. Whilst their value may go down, they are generating an income. The problems probably sit more with collectors who have bought cars to garage in the hope they hold/appreciate in value.

playalistic

2,266 posts

122 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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Dynamic Space Wizard said:
playalistic said:
xmyph said:
So the public are stupid? It couldn't possibly be anything to do with the rich getting ever richer, while the poor have their wages driven down by freedom of movement, reliance on foodbanks, no school places, high accommodation costs, poor pensions, overstretched NHS, student loans, loss of key industries and not to mention the loss of sovereignty that I have already touched upon?

Admittedly the politicians in Westminster are partly to blame but Brexit offered the British working class the chance to change their lot and given they had nothing to lose as many don't have anything anyway, they voted for it. This was despite all the project fear from the vested interests that benefit from EU membership.
Please fk off. Thanks.
Wow! It seemed like a really good, clear, concise summery of his thoughts to me.
It's all the usual Daily Mail tripe, so easily refuted, but this is not the place for that discussion.

S11Steve

5,875 posts

142 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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RSbandit said:
Indeed it's probably a cut in allowance from his old man but given that he's a complete bullst artist he'll try to spin that as look at how shrewd I am not buying new supercars in this falling mkt. I mean he even claimed in other vids how he was able to flip his cars for a profit ( these were normal production ones) if you were selling back to a dealer that is simply not possible given they'd have your eyes out after 6 months or so.
What industry does this guy/his father work in, and what cars was he seen in?

The only reason I ask is that I know that with some fleet deals a vehicle can be purchased with a combination of dealer and manufacturer support that is cheaper than the 6 month CAP clean price at 12000 miles.

Granted, it's not likely on Ferrari or Lamborghini, but certainly is on some cooking spec BMW/VW/Audi products

InitialDave

7,029 posts

77 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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xmyph said:
So the public are stupid?
Extremely.

Scrump

10,571 posts

116 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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Scrump said:
There are plenty of other threads discussing Brexit.
Please keep this one on topic.
Quoted in case it was missed last time.
Scrump, Site Moderator

Keyser Soze

20,237 posts

149 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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Johann_the_alpine_man said:
This popped up in my feed tonight, enjoyable watch. They seem to be getting really crappy views though, when the content is good. Don’t know why.

https://youtu.be/nono
Maybe because the content is unoriginal and the presenter is a bit odd?

They could always get someone to sign up to one of the UK's largest motoring forums and 'randomly' link their stuff to see if that increases the views

scratchchin

Edited by Keyser Soze on Monday 23 September 13:45

Craig_89

251 posts

134 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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Johann_the_alpine_man said:
This popped up in my feed tonight, enjoyable watch. They seem to be getting really crappy views though, when the content is good. Don’t know why.

https://youtu.be/nono
Beefy, is that you?! If so, where's the podcasts?

jayemm89

2,811 posts

88 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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She's not had a mention in the thread as far as I can see, but popping up in my recommended list lately is this lady, forging along with Hubnut-like vehicles:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt1x4gQtDhy27uanK...

CityS

163 posts

155 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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washingitagain said:
And don't forget, for the likes of the high value youtubers, the cars are a business asset and most business assets depreciate. Whilst their value may go down, they are generating an income. The problems probably sit more with collectors who have bought cars to garage in the hope they hold/appreciate in value.
I can imagine no tax office in the world would ever allow to expense the depreciation of the value of e.g. a Ferrari against your business revenues even though you use it for "business" purposes. There are limits on what type of vehicles you can use for business.

And I think Tim has mentioned in the past that he doesn't claim car depreciation as an expense in his tax returns. Of course you expense gas and some other expenses.

InitialDave

7,029 posts

77 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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CityS said:
I can imagine no tax office in the world would ever allow to expense the depreciation of the value of e.g. a Ferrari against your business revenues even though you use it for "business" purposes. There are limits on what type of vehicles you can use for business.
I don't see why not?

Assuming you could do it for a van if your business needs a van, or a generic car if your business needs a generic car, if your business genuinely needs a supercar (for example, your business is based on driving a supercar around), it's not like you're taking the piss?

Explaining why a plumber needs a GT3 as a work van might be a hard sell though.
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