Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)

Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)

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Shmee

7,565 posts

212 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Kev_Mk3 said:
Definitely these or the Ferrari in the Sahara Desert.
One of my favourite YouTube videos for sure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRjGN--R4pE

skylarking808

778 posts

85 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Just laughing to myself; thinking what my Devonion farming ancesters would have thought of heated combine harvester seats lol.

Damn good idea of course with our islands weather.
Still think heated steering wheels are a bit soft though.


The Li-ion King

3,766 posts

63 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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yanyan said:
I've just watched a near 20 minute video where the YouTuber is driving a Novitec 812 Ferrari. The highlights for the YouTuber were the colour of the car's key and the noise of the exhaust. Literally, the entire section about the Ferrari (I'm guessing 15 minutes of the video) was about the noise of the exhaust. I despair.
These are the type of Youtubers who would go and buy a wristband type thing which replicates the key, a true labour saving device if you have keyless entry on your Ferrari but taking a key from your pocket is too tiresome rolleyes


Master Bean

3,517 posts

119 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Hubnut has bought a new car and it's awful. But still more exciting than a Lambo whatever from Redline.

https://youtu.be/b5zDk6ZNHv0

jonny142

1,503 posts

224 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Klippie said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
I am loving Harry’s Farm, superb and interesting series
One of my favorites...as is Harrys Garage, always a good watch and learning something too is a bonus.

Harry could review lawnmowers and I'd lap up every minute.
Harry's Farm channel is just as addictive

ReaperCushions

5,951 posts

183 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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My only criticism of Harry's videos is there aren't enough of them!

I think it's fair to say Harry you are the only Youtuber on this thread we universally agree on hehe


InitialDave

11,856 posts

118 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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My favourite Harry video is the S1 Landie one, and now I want a Harry's Farm retro episode, doing the tasks around the farm using that with PTO attachments.

egor110

16,818 posts

202 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Master Bean said:
Hubnut has bought a new car and it's awful. But still more exciting than a Lambo whatever from Redline.

https://youtu.be/b5zDk6ZNHv0
When he was outside the mg rover factory i really hoped he'd got a mg rover .

Before he goes to new zealand i'd really like him to get a cheap ford puma and review that .

Pommy

14,229 posts

215 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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euphoricmess said:
washingitagain said:
The stats are more complex than that. For the big players on youtube it's about making engaging content which people don't click away from after 30 seconds and which people return to watch future videos. It used to be all about short videos where clickbait worked, I don't think it does now (sustainably).
Still clickbait isnt it. Next it will be "watch this 30 minute video and see at which point we flash up a special code which wins you a free pair of socks"

That will keep the engagement.

Ultimately it is all becoming what Harris moaned about when Smarc saw his arse. "When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure" Goodhart's law
This 100%.

So you get 100,000 views in 24hrs. But people watch a 15 minute video of a car revving and being told 'its brilliant' it and some people go 'meh'. So the next video only gets 80,000 watch's in 24 hours. And on it goes until you get 100,000 views in 24 days.

Its like watching a soft core porn video when staying ina hotel when youre pissed. You know its st but you keep watching thinking itll get better, but you know it wont and next time youre not going to bother.





emicen

8,558 posts

217 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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The Li-ion King said:
yanyan said:
I've just watched a near 20 minute video where the YouTuber is driving a Novitec 812 Ferrari. The highlights for the YouTuber were the colour of the car's key and the noise of the exhaust. Literally, the entire section about the Ferrari (I'm guessing 15 minutes of the video) was about the noise of the exhaust. I despair.
These are the type of Youtubers who would go and buy a wristband type thing which replicates the key, a true labour saving device if you have keyless entry on your Ferrari but taking a key from your pocket is too tiresome rolleyes
Erm... you don’t need to touch the key with keyless entry, it stays in your pocket.

InitialDave

11,856 posts

118 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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In Shmee's defence, he has access to the Youtube analytics for the video that tell him things like viewer retention and cumulative view time, plus the experience to correlate those to an Adsense paycheque.

You're not wrong to question whether a given approach is correct or sustainable, but there's a lot of variables involved in making that call.

If Tim wants to say here that a video is doing really well by the numbers that don't matter when in reality it's taking a big hit by the numbers that do, that's up to him. It doesn't affect the rest of us, but nor do we have access to the data to run our own analysis on it.

Shmee

7,565 posts

212 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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I quoted the views as a primitive outlook as to the video performance but over the last few weeks I've relaxed the nature of my content and the Shmee-character quite significantly, which is instantly reaping rewards.

It wasn't all that long ago that getting every video to 100k was a challenge whereas now the channel is on a run of over 60 consecutively and most of the recent videos are 200k or higher; in fact on average 1 per week over the last 5 weeks has done half a million. Not only that but the detailed information in the back end shows higher retention times, a stronger %age of US audience (which is critical for high value advertising), and July broke records for my channel which already look set to be broken again in August.

There's no guidebook or set of rules to follow when doing this but it's all a balance and ultimately I view it very much as a business and look for what is going to be the most successful. I don't intend to stoop into a world of clickbait by any stretch of the imagination and far too many hours are wasted working out how best to title each video, but you have to play the 'game' that's in front of you and I spend many hours every day in the Analytics to work out how to do that as best as possible.

danzman1991

318 posts

135 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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Last Shmee video with less than 100k views was 6th June - seriously impressive!

DannyScene

6,596 posts

154 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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Shmee, In your latest video did you purposely quote Jake Paul? I was showing a mate of mine your latest video of getting stopped again in the GT, my mates son was in the room and got very excited upon hearing you say 'it's everyday bro'


Shmee

7,565 posts

212 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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DannyScene said:
Shmee, In your latest video did you purposely quote Jake Paul? I was showing a mate of mine your latest video of getting stopped again in the GT, my mates son was in the room and got very excited upon hearing you say 'it's everyday bro'
Yes, it was an inside joke we were making about how bad the GT's fuel situation is; combination of poor economy and tiny fuel tank.

g3org3y

20,606 posts

190 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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InitialDave said:
In Shmee's defence, he has access to the Youtube analytics for the video that tell him things like viewer retention and cumulative view time, plus the experience to correlate those to an Adsense paycheque.

You're not wrong to question whether a given approach is correct or sustainable, but there's a lot of variables involved in making that call.

If Tim wants to say here that a video is doing really well by the numbers that don't matter when in reality it's taking a big hit by the numbers that do, that's up to him. It doesn't affect the rest of us, but nor do we have access to the data to run our own analysis on it.
WRT views, I assume Youtube(rs) can distinguish between those who have clicked and viewed only 30 secs and left vs those who have viewed the video in its entirety.

I assume the latter more desirable because of the option of having ads spread through the video itself (multiple ads viewed = increased revenue)? Is there any other benefit in keeping people viewing until the end?

Do YouTubers get more money if a user actually clicks an ad as well?

Most important question: Has anyone ever met someone in real life wearing a Vincero watch?

Koolkat969

987 posts

98 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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Shmee, first off, due respect to you for the hardwork you put into your channel. I know it's so easy for us to criticise your work but you show a lot of maturity dealing with the negative criticisms and having watched your channel grow over the years, i can only say that the sky is the limit for you because you're always one step ahead of the game! What's happening with your plans in Germany? Are you still moving there and doing things around the Nurburgring? Also, great to see you're a fan of Harry's Channel also. What would you say are the top 5 YouTube channels you follow or 10 if you watch that much?

TheAngryDog

12,394 posts

208 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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I can say now that my car has been reviewed by JayEmm. I can also say that he is a thoroughly nice guy and is very respectful of your car.

If anyone is interested in what an expensive (To fix) M5 is like, check out https://youtu.be/5FhCQGpulgg

skylarking808

778 posts

85 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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Yeah, well done.

He is one of three I would like/allow to review mine.

The others are Harry and Danny DC2 haha.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

102 months

Saturday 24th August 2019
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Koolkat969 said:
Shmee, first off, due respect to you for the hardwork you put into your channel. I know it's so easy for us to criticise your work but you show a lot of maturity dealing with the negative criticisms and having watched your channel grow over the years, i can only say that the sky is the limit for you because you're always one step ahead of the game! What's happening with your plans in Germany? Are you still moving there and doing things around the Nurburgring? Also, great to see you're a fan of Harry's Channel also. What would you say are the top 5 YouTube channels you follow or 10 if you watch that much?
Well said. As much as I can only watch some of his videos including muting my laptop at the first 10secs Uber cringe ‘hi guys I’m shmee’, fair play for the amount of hard work and way in which you deal with most of the criticism (barring schmmmmarks slur recently)
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