RE: Ford Focus RS Red Edition: Driven

RE: Ford Focus RS Red Edition: Driven

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lee_erm

1,091 posts

193 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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WBAC just offered me 2 grand for my 5 year old MK3 RS. Residuals are not looking good.

MikeDB1

238 posts

74 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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MartinVert said:
Looks cack in Red, unusual for a performance Ford to look so bad in that colour. But clearly there will always be a market for these niche products.
Not sure it's that bad, but I agree previous performance Fords have had a better shade of red. I was the first owner of Escort Mexico MTP31R which has since featured in various magazines and to my mind it's still been one of the best looking and most enjoyable Fords I have ever owned, at least once I added most of the Series X add-ons, a larger engine and some proper tyres (Dunlop SPR3s back then).

My first XR4x4 was also in red but changed it for a black one later. Obviously the first sign of getting middle aged :-)

But Subarus never seem to look good in red.

Speed 3

4,564 posts

119 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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I know its irrelevant performance-wise but that's gotta be the worst under-the-hood look I've ever seen. Don't know about Transit seating position but it certainly looks like it shares an engine bay.


IanJ9375

1,468 posts

216 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Speed 3 said:
I know its irrelevant performance-wise but that's gotta be the worst under-the-hood look I've ever seen. Don't know about Transit seating position but it certainly looks like it shares an engine bay.

Only really relevant if you spend a lot of time with your bonnet open pea-cocking your engine bay I guess

Onehp

1,617 posts

283 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Well, I'd love an RS, but for being a supposedly practical family hatchback, the 260l boot is tiny. Yet this is never criticized?
Current hot estate is 590l, so if there is any chance of an RS replacing it, it would have to be an estate version of the new one. Anyone here fancy one? Compared to the fast 4wd estates available today, suddenly such a RS estate would pass as 'lightweight'...

Andyt25

1,182 posts

248 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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T1berious said:
erm you might want to look at the competition.

AMG A45 = 42K
Audi RS3 = 44K

just sayin....
No hot hatch is worth the money that Sort of money. All are vastly over priced. Look at that Seat Leon thing....Looks like a 20k car not one over 30k. The Civic Type R may be a great car but looks like a child has designed it. These cars are now silly money. You can get so much used car for 40k these days. Really struggle with this type of car these days. I've had many hot hatches over the years which back then were fun and pretty affordable cars.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Andyt25 said:
You can get so much used car for 40k these days.
Incredible.

blearyeyedboy

6,291 posts

179 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Speed 3 said:
I know its irrelevant...
You should have stopped typing at that point. wink

Regardless of what I've been driving, I have yet to have any fun drive ruined by concerns about what the engine bay looks like while I'm actually driving, and therefore not looking at the engine.

Speed 3

4,564 posts

119 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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blearyeyedboy said:
Speed 3 said:
I know its irrelevant...
You should have stopped typing at that point. wink

Regardless of what I've been driving, I have yet to have any fun drive ruined by concerns about what the engine bay looks like while I'm actually driving, and therefore not looking at the engine.
Fair point but you can have automotive art under the skin as well as on the outside. I'm not into peacocking but there'll be a fair slice of PH'ers (a demographic this car is aimed at) who will appreciate these things. thumbup

loose cannon

6,030 posts

241 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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IanJ9375 said:
Only really relevant if you spend a lot of time with your bonnet open pea-cocking your engine bay I guess
It looks like 99.9% of cars under the bonnet since about 1993

RacerMike

4,205 posts

211 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Chestrockwell said:
Durzel said:
That interior shot...



...does not do it any favours whatsoever.

I mean, I know it' a Focus, but that screams Focus. Don't know if its the lighting or whether the interior is supposed to look like a hire van?

Edited by Durzel on Thursday 19th April 18:07
That what I thought, my friend has an ST line diesel and it looks identical to that. A Civic Type R looks much more purposeful.

I never understood what he hype is with Fords, in general really, someone took me out in a 2010 ST which he paid 12 grand for and bar the engine noise and medicore performance, it felt like a 2 grand car inside, from the buttons to the material used for the seats. I was really disappointed after! Same with actual friends 66 plate focus, just feels cheap, can’t imagine they’ll be in good shape after 10 years time.
I think that’s a little bit harsh. The design is a bit old school now, but the interior is well screwed together and with the Recaro’s feels special enough. I’ve had quite a few VW group cars over the years, and I think the RS is as well built (if not better) than my Mk5 GTI was.

At the end of the day, it’s still a hatchback, so it’s never going to be up there with Porsche or BMW. The materials used are decent enough though, and having had a few Focus hire cars in foreign countries recently, there’s actually a lot different between a base Focus and an RS/ST.

blearyeyedboy

6,291 posts

179 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Speed 3 said:
Fair point but you can have automotive art under the skin as well as on the outside. I'm not into peacocking but there'll be a fair slice of PH'ers (a demographic this car is aimed at) who will appreciate these things. thumbup
Equally fair. thumbup Thanks for taking comment in the humour that was intended. smile

I suppose I've generally been a function over form sort. If I were to get one, mine would be grey and I'd debadge as much as I could. smile

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

216 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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loose cannon said:
It looks like 99.9% of cars under the bonnet since about 1993
Agreed, most 4-pots don't really look too nice under the hood, the Evo block, the GM Redtop, the Cosworth lump possibly a little nicer than most.

Then you just look at a V6 Alfa and realise you'd rather shut the bonnet lol
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2...


Zad

12,699 posts

236 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Ford RSs have always been about the way they perform, not the interior trim. If you can't accept this fundamental ethos, then there is no point buying a Ford RS surely?


donkmeister

8,164 posts

100 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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I'm a bit late to chime in, but about the engine reliability... I went to a track experience day (supercars, gt's, atoms etc) and the "high-speed passenger experience" car was a new shape RS with a fair few miles on it.
There was a heavyfooted brummy caning it round the track all day, every day. So if it is a design issue they would surely have had plenty go pop, unlikely to get warranty repairs due to its day-job, and as it isn't earning any money when it's in the workshop they would get rid pretty quickly.
That isn't to say none have gone pop, but if lots have then it may well be a quality control issue rather than a design issue.

Edited as I called it a mk3 but i don't know my mks of Ford Focus. I'm talking about the current shape sort-of 4wd one, not the 2.5 fwd one.

Edited by donkmeister on Friday 20th April 18:19

nickfrog

21,149 posts

217 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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IanJ9375 said:
MartinVert said:
Happy to have got shot of my RS, colossal mistake that won't be repeated. Lost a few more bags of sand that I was hoping for on it but never mind, lesson learned!

Looks cack in Red, unusual for a performance Ford to look so bad in that colour. But clearly there will always be a market for these niche products.
Ah Humandoing still going I see lol
Doesn't he realise most people know it's him or does he just use another of his many and talented personalities to do it ?

nickfrog

21,149 posts

217 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Andyt25 said:
36k for a hot hatch..!!!!.....Don’t care how it drives that silly money. Just think what you could get as a used car for that money.
What ? Used cars are cheaper than new ones ?

Is there an official price limit for a car based on the fact that it has a hatch and irrespective of anything else ?

It's OK if you don't care how it drives but others may care about the driving experience and the car may represent good value for their budget (stating the obvious).

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

216 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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nickfrog said:
Doesn't he realise most people know it's him or does he just use another of his many and talented personalities to do it ?
Not sure to be honest, he's a bit like the car forum version of a "Walt"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6DOGITIfAY


Escort Si-130

3,272 posts

180 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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lee_erm said:
WBAC just offered me 2 grand for my 5 year old MK3 RS. Residuals are not looking good.
WTF, load of bull st, the car has not even been out 5 years!!!

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Wednesday 25th April 2018
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nickfrog said:
What ? Used cars are cheaper than new ones ?

Is there an official price limit for a car based on the fact that it has a hatch and irrespective of anything else ?
That would explain why they only sold a couple of thousand Ferrari FFs in 5 years!
Just too expensive for a 4wd hatch at well over 36k..........