Cars taking on bikes (again)

[Boosted LS1]

I think I'd find this pretty satisfying.

https://www.facebook.com/corvette/videos/101563641...

Average speed 214 mph.

[av185]

Boosted LS1 said:

The bigger performance bikes always bottled it on the twisties.

Twisties like these?

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[Boosted LS1]

Derbyshire twisties. :-)

[Rawwr]

Boosted LS1 said:

I think I'd find this pretty satisfying.

https://www.facebook.com/corvette/videos/101563641...

Average speed 214 mph.

Really!?

That's probably in the top 5 of the most boring videos I've ever had the misfortune to waste my time watching

[jimPH]

Jdjd1 said:

jimPH said:

Steven_RW said:

jimPH said:

normalbloke said:

swerni said:

normalbloke said:

A 2.0 producing 450hp will have a power curve that looks like a cliff. It's bad enough in a 90s rally car, let alone a seven weighing 650kg, with a relatively narrow tread width.

I'm sure it will be truly frightening if you like that kind of fun, but be much less capable than an n/a car with 300hp and a linear power delivery.

Headline figures are only good for bragging in the bar, or on the internet.

Absolute load of bks


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Does that fall off a cliff? Or would it come past 99% of every car that anybody owns on this forum?

Best run was 767bhp 596 torque from a 2.0, You can stick that up your headline bar bragging figures.

From possibly one of the biggest sleepers you will ever come across

Edited by Jdjd1 on Wednesday 25th April 13:34

I'm not sure what you mean "falling" off a cliff if the power delivery is too violent, the car becomes difficult to drive. Your video shows a crap looking Corsa with a stupid power delivery. Yep it will be fast, but drive terrible. It's not about the headline figure.

Ask me how I know. Been there, done that, built a sleeper. All cars like that are massively compromised. I turboed a Citroen AX, with a 16v engine.



Was great fun. Terrible on track despite having the same running gear as a saxo and go kart like handling. Corsa's handle terrible to start with, let alone with silly power delivery.

Sevens have their own limitations, I know this because I own one. Visibility (being so low down) is terrible, so they're difficult cars to drive fast on the road. Over 120mph things get a bit wayward, so top end is rather pointless. They're best suited to tight technical tracks which makes big power useless.

Great fun though no doubt, I love mine. But if you want a fast track car, a turbo just disrupts the chassis. 450hp in a seven is just number chasing.

Edited by jimPH on Wednesday 25th April 20:50

[BrassMan]

av185 said:

Question is if someone enjoys fast bikes and fast cars in equal measures which would be the preferred 'weapon' of choice on superb driving/riding roads like these?

On a day like that? There isn't a car in the world that would get me off my bike.

[Boosted LS1]

Rawwr said:

Boosted LS1 said:

I think I'd find this pretty satisfying.

https://www.facebook.com/corvette/videos/101563641...

Average speed 214 mph.

Really!?

That's probably in the top 5 of the most boring videos I've ever had the misfortune to waste my time watching

Well aren't you a dick for watching it.

[Rawwr]

Boosted LS1 said:

Well aren't you a dick for watching it.

Not really. Had I not watched it, I wouldn't have been in a position to comment. Makes sense when you think about it.

[RemyMartin81D]

Boosted LS1 said:

Derbyshire twisties. :-)

If you mean the cat and fiddle. Most overated road in the UK. Surface is diabolical. Never been more disappointed.

[Boosted LS1]

RemyMartin81D said:

Boosted LS1 said:

Derbyshire twisties. :-)

If you mean the cat and fiddle. Most overated road in the UK. Surface is diabolical. Never been more disappointed.

No not there. He used to like a back road between Heanor and Spondon. I went with him once it was frightening how much lean he could put on it due to the tyres, never again. I recall heading for some bollards and somehow missing them all.

[av185]

BrassMan said:

av185 said:

Question is if someone enjoys fast bikes and fast cars in equal measures which would be the preferred 'weapon' of choice on superb driving/riding roads like these?

On a day like that? There isn't a car in the world that would get me off my bike.

Summer maybe.

Winter/early Spring as in those shots, definitely the rapid car.

[Gad-Westy]

av185 said:

BrassMan said:

av185 said:

Question is if someone enjoys fast bikes and fast cars in equal measures which would be the preferred 'weapon' of choice on superb driving/riding roads like these?

On a day like that? There isn't a car in the world that would get me off my bike.

Summer maybe.

Winter/early Spring as in those shots, definitely the rapid car.

Where is the first pic? Can't place it.

[ChilliWhizz]

av185 said:

Question is if someone enjoys fast bikes and fast cars in equal measures which would be the preferred 'weapon' of choice on superb driving/riding roads like these?

Chimaera for me.. roof down... WOT, changing gear on the soft limiter.... epic sound...... clipping apexes..... lovely jubbly

[caelite]

I have great fun with the bikes when I go to visit my parents during the summer. They live near in a touristy part of Scotland, en route to the start of the nc500 route, all the tourists about in flashy motors and bikes with no real knowledge of the local roads makes you feel like a driving god in your humble MX5.

Personally with bikes I prefer to let them pass and follow from behind, always give them ample room and stopping space for myself if the worst where to happen. Not a fan of having them behind me as, in my eyes, they are difficult to keep track off whilst they are weaving about in your rear view.

[av185]

Gad-Westy said:

Where is the first pic? Can't place it.

Sorry don't know it was on the Highlands thread.

[MrGman]

Why are these car vs bike threads always about what's fastest?

I've done many laps of the ring in some very fast cars, one of my most memorable was in a 120hp suzuki swift.

[Rawwr]

MrGman said:

Why are these car vs bike threads always about what's fastest?

Pistonheads is just a place you can go on the Internet to play Top Trumps. Person A will compare a set of numbers to Person B's set of numbers and the best set of numbers win. This often results in Person B telling Person A he's a fat bender. Enjoyment and feeling cannot be expressed in numbers and thus are irrelevant to the proceedings.

"I really like my bike, it feels amazing in corners!"
"A car is faster through the corner, though."
"Yes but I'm saying that the bike feels fantastic."
"The car is faster, though."
"I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I'm saying the bike feels really good despite being slower."
"I totally understand what you're saying but the car is faster."

[MrGman]

Rawwr said:

Pistonheads is just a place you can go on the Internet to play Top Trumps. Person A will compare a set of numbers to Person B's set of numbers and the best set of numbers win. This often results in Person B telling Person A he's a fat bender. Enjoyment and feeling cannot be expressed in numbers and thus are irrelevant to the proceedings.

"I really like my bike, it feels amazing in corners!"
"A car is faster through the corner, though."
"Yes but I'm saying that the bike feels fantastic."
"The car is faster, though."
"I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I'm saying the bike feels really good despite being slower."
"I totally understand what you're saying but the car is faster."

I guess it passes the time

[Zetec-S]

Gad-Westy said:

av185 said:

BrassMan said:

av185 said:

Question is if someone enjoys fast bikes and fast cars in equal measures which would be the preferred 'weapon' of choice on superb driving/riding roads like these?

On a day like that? There isn't a car in the world that would get me off my bike.

Summer maybe.

Winter/early Spring as in those shots, definitely the rapid car.

Where is the first pic? Can't place it.

My guess, Kylesku:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@58.2539591,-5.02626...

[akirk]

Rawwr said:

MrGman said:

Why are these car vs bike threads always about what's fastest?

Pistonheads is just a place you can go on the Internet to play Top Trumps. Person A will compare a set of numbers to Person B's set of numbers and the best set of numbers win. This often results in Person B telling Person A he's a fat bender. Enjoyment and feeling cannot be expressed in numbers and thus are irrelevant to the proceedings.

"I really like my bike, it feels amazing in corners!"
"A car is faster through the corner, though."
"Yes but I'm saying that the bike feels fantastic."
"The car is faster, though."
"I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I'm saying the bike feels really good despite being slower."
"I totally understand what you're saying but the car is faster."

I think people do it because it is a way of making themselves feel good - put someone else down / show how you are better and others will respect you more / look at you in awe and wonder at how amazing you are