New Car from Dealer. Found it's Stolen/Recovered, what next?
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Theres a difference between Stolen Recovered and recorded as a total loss by the insurance company - and thus invoking an HPI marker - and the car being stolen, recovered and repaired.
In the same way as a car being Written Off by an insurance company - and thus invoking an HPI marker - and a car merely having panels repaired under an insurance claim.
I would very much doubt the dealer knew. Hes done his due diligence by checking the car over and having it HPI checked for total loss / finance owing.
To have a chance of pursuing it, i'd have thought you would need a statement from the previous owner and even then, given its the HPI marker that devalues a car and this car doesnt have one - i'm not sure what the outcome would be?
In the same way as a car being Written Off by an insurance company - and thus invoking an HPI marker - and a car merely having panels repaired under an insurance claim.
I would very much doubt the dealer knew. Hes done his due diligence by checking the car over and having it HPI checked for total loss / finance owing.
To have a chance of pursuing it, i'd have thought you would need a statement from the previous owner and even then, given its the HPI marker that devalues a car and this car doesnt have one - i'm not sure what the outcome would be?
Like others here, I'm not sure what the issue is.
The thread title is misleading as it isn't a new car but a used one.
I'm rarely on the side of robbing theiving conman dealers but in a case like this, even if he is aware, I wouldn't expect that information to be volunteered or even be relevant.
Will the OP be advertising the car as 2 careful owners and one thieving scumbag car thief? Perhaps as he feels it is relevant.
The thread title is misleading as it isn't a new car but a used one.
I'm rarely on the side of robbing theiving conman dealers but in a case like this, even if he is aware, I wouldn't expect that information to be volunteered or even be relevant.
Will the OP be advertising the car as 2 careful owners and one thieving scumbag car thief? Perhaps as he feels it is relevant.
stumpage said:
Guy has a car he can't afford to run anymore. Doesn't want to post on Facebook that he is in financial bother but wants to stop questions about why he got rid of car.
Says it was stolen, but quickly recovered.
Takes it to a dealer to offload it quick at a low price as he needs to pay some debts before the baliffs turn up and hasn't got the time to sell privately in order to get the max amount of cash for his car.
(Just one version of possible events)
Really? Says it was stolen, but quickly recovered.
Takes it to a dealer to offload it quick at a low price as he needs to pay some debts before the baliffs turn up and hasn't got the time to sell privately in order to get the max amount of cash for his car.
(Just one version of possible events)
Are there really people that desperate- particularly the facebook b
ks??
Bennyjames28 said:
I would not be happy if I spent all that money and found out the car had been stolen at some point. I would rather just buy one that hasn't been stolen.
Just phone your local police and ask.
It's nice to see someone else agrees with how I feel Just phone your local police and ask.
Thanks everyone for your input. I'm going to speak to the AA ref the MOT today, after all if I am entitled to it then why not?!
As for "compensation", I won't pursue it, but I am going to pop in to see the dealer none the less on Saturday to let him know my findings even if all it does is make me feel better about it all, true or not.
Bennyjames28 said:
I would not be happy if I spent all that money and found out the car had been stolen at some point. I would rather just buy one that hasn't been stolen.
Just phone your local police and ask.
But how would you ever know? As for for phoning the Police, are free car checks something they offer now? Just phone your local police and ask.
I completely agree that I would prefer to buy a car that has been carefully run in for me by the 1 previous owner but it’s a used car and could have had anything from dogs being sick in it to carrying mutilated corpses to quiet wooded areas in its history.
One of my cars had been regularly used for dogging but it didn’t stop me buying it.
And I don’t even like dogs!
If it isn't listed on any check or records then officially it never happened. Like someone else said, it could be the guy was billy bullstting because he couldn't afford the payments. Lo and behold it's found without so much as a scratch a few miles down the line, the police aren't going to investigate as it's not worth the time and seeing as the car is alright, seems pointless.
I would feel a little misled or annoyed if I bought one like that but also it's hard to blame the dealer, they're not investigators and v5 doesn't prove ownership.
tting because he couldn't afford the payments. Lo and behold it's found without so much as a scratch a few miles down the line, the police aren't going to investigate as it's not worth the time and seeing as the car is alright, seems pointless.I would feel a little misled or annoyed if I bought one like that but also it's hard to blame the dealer, they're not investigators and v5 doesn't prove ownership.
Really don't understand the "As you do being a car nut, I wanted to find the previous owner to ask if he had any issues and so on" statement. Why do this after buying the car? Spend £10.5k, then do some questionable Facebook checks on it?
The whole thing reeks of buyers remorse - and with the comments about the MOT not being long enough/AA Gold checks (again - this should've been evident before buying the car) and the Companies House thing it just sounds as though you are throwing whatever you can at the dealer to see what will stick.
The whole thing reeks of buyers remorse - and with the comments about the MOT not being long enough/AA Gold checks (again - this should've been evident before buying the car) and the Companies House thing it just sounds as though you are throwing whatever you can at the dealer to see what will stick.
The find out from a previous owner stuff really does my head in after having it been done to me. Sold a 2 year old Grand Picasso to a couple of guys who travelled up to Scotland from Manchester to buy it and then 2 years later get a letter to me from the new owner saying there were all these faults on their "new" car and was it there when I had the car 2 years previously.
In my case it transpired that the garage had used it for a run around for 18 months transporting parts etc and run it into the ground. A classic car I can totally understand maybe contacting the previous owner, but not a 3 year old car.
In my case it transpired that the garage had used it for a run around for 18 months transporting parts etc and run it into the ground. A classic car I can totally understand maybe contacting the previous owner, but not a 3 year old car.
Swampy1982 said:
Side question, but does the OP have to now declare the cars been stolen/recovered when he comes to sell it? After all, he now knows!
Assuming that he sells it as a perfectly-legal private sale, no ifs, buts or maybes, then he does if he is specifically asked that question, but not otherwise.swanny200 said:
The find out from a previous owner stuff really does my head in after having it been done to me. Sold a 2 year old Grand Picasso to a couple of guys who travelled up to Scotland from Manchester to buy it and then 2 years later get a letter to me from the new owner saying there were all these faults on their "new" car and was it there when I had the car 2 years previously.
In my case it transpired that the garage had used it for a run around for 18 months transporting parts etc and run it into the ground. A classic car I can totally understand maybe contacting the previous owner, but not a 3 year old car.
Oh don't get me wrong, I really aren't that kind of person, but having predominantly always owned modified cars it's nice to know who did what sometimes so I have a better idea of previous work done and when etc.In my case it transpired that the garage had used it for a run around for 18 months transporting parts etc and run it into the ground. A classic car I can totally understand maybe contacting the previous owner, but not a 3 year old car.
I'm not too bothered what someone else thinks of my train of thought however regarding finding out a bit more about what I've bought as I never mean any malice by it.
Probably not entirely the dealers fault.
I bought a car some years ago from a dealer,he provided a hpi printout showing the car was clean history wise,nothing adverse was shown on the report.
It wasn't until curiosity got the better of me around a month later,that I did my own check using another company,it came back as the car being stolen recovered.
I went back to the dealer who put his hands up and said he wasn't aware of it as the hpi report came back clean and offered a full refund there and then,which I accepted.
I don't think the basic hpi report is as thorough as it could be,only when you pay for the full Monty report does everything get disclosed.
I bought a car some years ago from a dealer,he provided a hpi printout showing the car was clean history wise,nothing adverse was shown on the report.
It wasn't until curiosity got the better of me around a month later,that I did my own check using another company,it came back as the car being stolen recovered.
I went back to the dealer who put his hands up and said he wasn't aware of it as the hpi report came back clean and offered a full refund there and then,which I accepted.
I don't think the basic hpi report is as thorough as it could be,only when you pay for the full Monty report does everything get disclosed.
lcs_turbo said:
Really don't understand the "As you do being a car nut, I wanted to find the previous owner to ask if he had any issues and so on" statement. Why do this after buying the car? Spend £10.5k, then do some questionable Facebook checks on it?
The whole thing reeks of buyers remorse - and with the comments about the MOT not being long enough/AA Gold checks (again - this should've been evident before buying the car) and the Companies House thing it just sounds as though you are throwing whatever you can at the dealer to see what will stick.
This.The whole thing reeks of buyers remorse - and with the comments about the MOT not being long enough/AA Gold checks (again - this should've been evident before buying the car) and the Companies House thing it just sounds as though you are throwing whatever you can at the dealer to see what will stick.
As for going to the police, they are going to laugh you right out of the station. No crime or offence has been committed by anyone. And now you want a free MOT?
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