Do you ever 'self-police' the roads?
Discussion
FlabbyMidgets said:
I understand for some it may be frustrating to have someone get in front of you, delaying your journey by a little etc, encouraging others to follow et Al. However it is impossible imo to stop this from happening. Some people will always try and get in front when a chance arises.
By actively stopping them like you describe is creating a situation for little reward. The person you are blocking could potentially be a loon (see the case where the elderly man was stabbed after a minor accident). If the person does keep going it may result in an accident, a claim on your name and increased insurance.
I don't see how it can be worth the risk, just let them in, I'm not saying you need to leave a massive gap but just don't actively block. It's not going to end well one day.
Can you see where I'm coming from?
My point exactly you have articulated the point far better than me I just think he might get a pasting this summerBy actively stopping them like you describe is creating a situation for little reward. The person you are blocking could potentially be a loon (see the case where the elderly man was stabbed after a minor accident). If the person does keep going it may result in an accident, a claim on your name and increased insurance.
I don't see how it can be worth the risk, just let them in, I'm not saying you need to leave a massive gap but just don't actively block. It's not going to end well one day.
Can you see where I'm coming from?
FlabbyMidgets said:
I understand for some it may be frustrating to have someone get in front of you, delaying your journey by a little etc, encouraging others to follow et Al. However it is impossible imo to stop this from happening. Some people will always try and get in front when a chance arises.
By actively stopping them like you describe is creating a situation for little reward. The person you are blocking could potentially be a loon (see the case where the elderly man was stabbed after a minor accident). If the person does keep going it may result in an accident, a claim on your name and increased insurance.
I don't see how it can be worth the risk, just let them in, I'm not saying you need to leave a massive gap but just don't actively block. It's not going to end well one day.
Can you see where I'm coming from?
I do and thanks for your sensible post and not insulting me. On reflection, I have to admit, you're right and if I do accelerate and he takes the gap behind , he could torture me the whole way home. It's a fair point. I think I'll stop doing it.By actively stopping them like you describe is creating a situation for little reward. The person you are blocking could potentially be a loon (see the case where the elderly man was stabbed after a minor accident). If the person does keep going it may result in an accident, a claim on your name and increased insurance.
I don't see how it can be worth the risk, just let them in, I'm not saying you need to leave a massive gap but just don't actively block. It's not going to end well one day.
Can you see where I'm coming from?
It's a shame I've been insulted so many times, my somewhat misguided viewpoint is a bit of a silly thing to do, I'm man enough to take that one on the chin
Peace folks
I wouldn't do what the OP does because it strikes me as being potentially more dangerous than not doing it.... but... I think there is a general argument to be made in favour of people not blindly ignoring behaviour from others in public which the majority in society would find undesirable or unacceptable. It brings to mind hidden camera social experiments where people just blindly ignore someone blatantly littering or worse. I wonder if it has always been like this, or whether we have gradually become less inclined to take a stand - if so, perhaps we are now more afraid (justifiably or otherwise) than we used to be.
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Edited by MaxSo on Tuesday 22 May 19:30
I did stuff like this sometimes when I was younger and first had a moderately quick car.
I think one one hand, the self-made policemen need to look at their motivation. Are you really concerned about safety and declining driving standards, or do you just find getting one over on an obnoxious driver entertaining from time to time? I know for me it was the latter. You're totally kidding yourself if you think the driver sent 15 minutes up the motorway is going to learn a lesson, if anything they're going to be even more determined to cut in next time.
On the other hand, I wonder how many people replying strongly against the OP are really defending their own sense of entitlement to cut in / undertake / practice other forms of "advanced" driving.
Sad fact is people love to play out deeply engrained, evolutionary power games on the road - I'm sure they always have and always will. It's too tempting to resist - the sense you are in a competition, the relative anonymity and perceived lack of consequences...
I think one one hand, the self-made policemen need to look at their motivation. Are you really concerned about safety and declining driving standards, or do you just find getting one over on an obnoxious driver entertaining from time to time? I know for me it was the latter. You're totally kidding yourself if you think the driver sent 15 minutes up the motorway is going to learn a lesson, if anything they're going to be even more determined to cut in next time.
On the other hand, I wonder how many people replying strongly against the OP are really defending their own sense of entitlement to cut in / undertake / practice other forms of "advanced" driving.
Sad fact is people love to play out deeply engrained, evolutionary power games on the road - I'm sure they always have and always will. It's too tempting to resist - the sense you are in a competition, the relative anonymity and perceived lack of consequences...
I used to have this issue, getting in lane only for someone to cut in 100yards from the junction.
I’d leave a big gap, and when the motorist starts to cut across I’d hang back to let them. They’d usually wave thanks and I’d reciprocate because I’m not a muppet who needs to inforce my superiority.
I also felt sorry for other people who had to work in Huddersfield, and letting them on was probably the highlight of their day.
I’d leave a big gap, and when the motorist starts to cut across I’d hang back to let them. They’d usually wave thanks and I’d reciprocate because I’m not a muppet who needs to inforce my superiority.
I also felt sorry for other people who had to work in Huddersfield, and letting them on was probably the highlight of their day.
soupdragon1 said:
I do, when the occasion presents itself.
Example
Heavy commute motorway traffic, we've 4 lanes of traffic about 2 miles long. Left 2 lanes go North, right 2 lanes go east. The left lanes move a lot slower, so you get lots of people going right hand lane all the way, 2ish miles and then cut in at the last minute. Quite dangerously at times, nipping into tiny gaps.
It's got to the point the left lanes are driving nose to tail to stop these people, but they still cut in anyway, aggressively at times.
So I self police.
I leave a very attractive gap, inviting them to cut in in a safe manner. But I drop a gear and sit bang in the optimum power band, ready to 'speed match' them. As they are about to pass me and take the big gap, I speed up. They soon realise I'm not letting them in and their plan is foiled.
They end up going down several miles of motorway which ends at a big roundabout which is always log jammed. They have to negotiate that, drive all the way back to the start of the 4 lane motorway and start all over again. Minimum 15 mins extra journey time, in their efforts to save I minute. Nice to serve some justice to others sometimes.
Anyone else self police on the road?
Whilst I understand your frustration at the bad planning, errors or whatever of others, I certainly don’t do as you describe.Example
Heavy commute motorway traffic, we've 4 lanes of traffic about 2 miles long. Left 2 lanes go North, right 2 lanes go east. The left lanes move a lot slower, so you get lots of people going right hand lane all the way, 2ish miles and then cut in at the last minute. Quite dangerously at times, nipping into tiny gaps.
It's got to the point the left lanes are driving nose to tail to stop these people, but they still cut in anyway, aggressively at times.
So I self police.
I leave a very attractive gap, inviting them to cut in in a safe manner. But I drop a gear and sit bang in the optimum power band, ready to 'speed match' them. As they are about to pass me and take the big gap, I speed up. They soon realise I'm not letting them in and their plan is foiled.
They end up going down several miles of motorway which ends at a big roundabout which is always log jammed. They have to negotiate that, drive all the way back to the start of the 4 lane motorway and start all over again. Minimum 15 mins extra journey time, in their efforts to save I minute. Nice to serve some justice to others sometimes.
Anyone else self police on the road?
Edited by soupdragon1 on Tuesday 22 May 18:29
Son 2. Not keen to do as he was told, by ADI or anyone else, was identified as a candidate for a young drivers workshop before being caught doing anything wrong. The chap who presented (met him since in RoSPA stuff) had 3 types of attitude:
Child: takes silly risks to show off etc.;
Parent: takes it upon themself to be the driving parent and teach others what is right/wrong by their lights;
Adult: does not take silly risks or try to parent others. Gets on with own driving life allowing others to do what they do.
He was advocating the last one to those mostly in the first category. You can work out where your post would put you...!
wazztie16 said:
What happens if that person trying to push in has found themselves in the wrong lane due to not knowing the area?
Should they go all the way to the back again?
Quite. Sometimes it is just a genuine case of they don’t know the area. The worst thing in this situation is thinking someone’s going to be nice and let you in, only for them to shut the door. I can’t see the op’s garage on mobile, but I bet he drives a right Should they go all the way to the back again?
nugget mobile. soupdragon1 said:
I do, when the occasion presents itself.
Example
Heavy commute motorway traffic, we've 4 lanes of traffic about 2 miles long. Left 2 lanes go North, right 2 lanes go east. The left lanes move a lot slower, so you get lots of people going right hand lane all the way, 2ish miles and then cut in at the last minute. Quite dangerously at times, nipping into tiny gaps.
It's got to the point the left lanes are driving nose to tail to stop these people, but they still cut in anyway, aggressively at times.
So I self police.
I leave a very attractive gap, inviting them to cut in in a safe manner. But I drop a gear and sit bang in the optimum power band, ready to 'speed match' them. As they are about to pass me and take the big gap, I speed up. They soon realise I'm not letting them in and their plan is foiled.
They end up going down several miles of motorway which ends at a big roundabout which is always log jammed. They have to negotiate that, drive all the way back to the start of the 4 lane motorway and start all over again. Minimum 15 mins extra journey time, in their efforts to save I minute. Nice to serve some justice to others sometimes.
Anyone else self police on the road?
Example
Heavy commute motorway traffic, we've 4 lanes of traffic about 2 miles long. Left 2 lanes go North, right 2 lanes go east. The left lanes move a lot slower, so you get lots of people going right hand lane all the way, 2ish miles and then cut in at the last minute. Quite dangerously at times, nipping into tiny gaps.
It's got to the point the left lanes are driving nose to tail to stop these people, but they still cut in anyway, aggressively at times.
So I self police.
I leave a very attractive gap, inviting them to cut in in a safe manner. But I drop a gear and sit bang in the optimum power band, ready to 'speed match' them. As they are about to pass me and take the big gap, I speed up. They soon realise I'm not letting them in and their plan is foiled.
They end up going down several miles of motorway which ends at a big roundabout which is always log jammed. They have to negotiate that, drive all the way back to the start of the 4 lane motorway and start all over again. Minimum 15 mins extra journey time, in their efforts to save I minute. Nice to serve some justice to others sometimes.
Anyone else self police on the road?
Edited by soupdragon1 on Tuesday 22 May 18:29
Triumph Man said:
soupdragon1 said:
Stella Tortoise said:
Righto:
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the irony of your posts just made me smile Remind me. Who's childish again?
.If I completely disregarded what others were saying then maybe I do deserve to be called an xyz, I guess that might be a fair assessment then.
standards said:
Whilst I understand your frustration at the bad planning, errors or whatever of others, I certainly don’t do as you describe.
Son 2. Not keen to do as he was told, by ADI or anyone else, was identified as a candidate for a young drivers workshop before being caught doing anything wrong. The chap who presented (met him since in RoSPA stuff) had 3 types of attitude:
Child: takes silly risks to show off etc.;
Parent: takes it upon themself to be the driving parent and teach others what is right/wrong by their lights;
Adult: does not take silly risks or try to parent others. Gets on with own driving life allowing others to do what they do.
He was advocating the last one to those mostly in the first category. You can work out where your post would put you...!
We had a training thing in work not that long ago which was similar to this so yeah, I recognise what you mean here. I know where I sit....but tomorrow I'll change that Son 2. Not keen to do as he was told, by ADI or anyone else, was identified as a candidate for a young drivers workshop before being caught doing anything wrong. The chap who presented (met him since in RoSPA stuff) had 3 types of attitude:
Child: takes silly risks to show off etc.;
Parent: takes it upon themself to be the driving parent and teach others what is right/wrong by their lights;
Adult: does not take silly risks or try to parent others. Gets on with own driving life allowing others to do what they do.
He was advocating the last one to those mostly in the first category. You can work out where your post would put you...!
280E said:
I'd say the OP has dropped a bit of a Clanger, here
Yeah, bit of a facepalm here but to be fair, valid points raised which on hindsight, make better sense than my own. But it wasn't a troll post, I've been doing this for a while now. Not the smartest thing I've ever done mind!
soupdragon1 said:
I've got value from the thread, I've recognised what I'm doing from a different point of view so despite making myself look a bit daft from my original post, I'm happy to admit that and take it on the chin. It's all good.
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Good for you for having the depth of character to admit that .
soupdragon1 said:
Yeah, bit of a facepalm here but to be fair, valid points raised which on hindsight, make better sense than my own.
But it wasn't a troll post, I've been doing this for a while now. Not the smartest thing I've ever done mind!
Glad to have helped a little. You're not the only one with that view, see it plenty of times on the road daily. Just enjoy the fact all those people rushing about so much, cutting in and blocking are probably a lot more stressed and have higher blood pressure But it wasn't a troll post, I've been doing this for a while now. Not the smartest thing I've ever done mind!
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