RE: New Suzuki Jimny leaked

RE: New Suzuki Jimny leaked

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blueST

4,378 posts

215 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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I would imagine the primary market for this car is not the U.K., but developing countries across Asia, which may influence the engine choice too.

gweaver

906 posts

157 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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Lewis Kingston said:
Apologies if I've missed the discussion elsewhere but what about a modern Panda 4x4? Similar price, similarly cheerful, more advantageous drivetrain (for most), better on-road handling, stout MultiJet diesel option in inexpensive used examples, more interior space, etc.
Or there's the Ignis and Swift, both available with 4WD. I've had a couple as courtesy cat cars and I thought the 4WD Swift handled better than the FWD one.

gweaver

906 posts

157 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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Ilovejapcrap said:
2. I'm still not sure why they didn't put the 1.4t engine in (tuned for torque rather than BHP) rather than the 1.5 n/a which im assuming is the one used in old Suzuki swift ?
It's not. The older petrol Swifts use the M13, M15, M16A and K12 engines (in Europe anyway). The current Swifts use the K10 (turbo), K12 and K14 (turbo). The new Jimny uses the K15.

Ilovejapcrap

3,274 posts

111 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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gweaver said:
Ilovejapcrap said:
2. I'm still not sure why they didn't put the 1.4t engine in (tuned for torque rather than BHP) rather than the 1.5 n/a which im assuming is the one used in old Suzuki swift ?
It's not. The older petrol Swifts use the M13, M15, M16A and K12 engines (in Europe anyway). The current Swifts use the K10 (turbo), K12 and K14 (turbo). The new Jimny uses the K15.
Interesting thanks.

The old m16a engine is a great little lump on a side note (that’s the one used in swift sport yeah)

Bill

52,472 posts

254 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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Ilovejapcrap said:
good point i was more thinking about MPG when using on motorway and emissions.
It's not designed for the sort of market where motorways exist* or emissions matter.



*Ok, I'm exaggerating...

Dabooka

281 posts

104 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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gweaver said:
Or there's the Ignis and Swift, both available with 4WD. I've had a couple as courtesy cat cars and I thought the 4WD Swift handled better than the FWD one.
I went looking for a Grand Vit a few years ago but took the AWD version out for a lengthy spin beforehand and struggled with it. I found it had an awful drone at 60-70mph. Might have been the tyres I suppose, but it was factory fresh. A colleague has one and loves it kind, and I do think they’re cracking motors but need a tweak.

Ended up forgoing the awd requirement and bought a Sport instead.....

tim0409

4,354 posts

158 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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Dan W. said:
tim0409 said:
Just off the phone from the Suzuki dealer; their allocation is four cars and I was fourth on the list; they have a base in silver which was my second choice for delivery in March (black was first) so we are going ahead with it. They didn't take a deposit when I initially placed an "order"/expression of interest, but will now. The OH is pretty excited at the prospect of owning a new car for the first time!
good work, enjoy the car
Thanks, I'm really looking forward to getting it in the New Year. The dealer has said March but also that it could be sooner; as it will be within the first batch dealers receive I've read some reports online of January deliveries which would be nice!
My wife was chatting to a colleague about it yesterday, and he sent her a picture of one parked up outside a restaurant last night in Edinburgh; I think it must have been a salesman having some fun.

It will be interesting to see how the residuals pan out given the restricted supply. One of the reasons I hesitated on a new Polo at the start of the month was the thought of the depreciation (up until a few years ago I bought all my cars from auction and would never had contemplated a new car).

Edited by tim0409 on Thursday 20th December 13:09

wigit

105 posts

170 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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My local dealer let me take their demo out for an hour which was great as got to drive it on roads I actually use.

I was expecting to be disappointed but for what we need it for which is essentially a two seater promo vehicle is ideal and performed better on road than we were expecting.

That dealer was being allocated two so thought not a chance, however, got a call this week to offer me a Kinetic Yellow one for January delivery and went in to do the deal, we were third on the list but person in front did not like the yellow so their loss was our gain.




n_const

1,707 posts

200 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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gweaver said:
Ilovejapcrap said:
2. I'm still not sure why they didn't put the 1.4t engine in (tuned for torque rather than BHP) rather than the 1.5 n/a which im assuming is the one used in old Suzuki swift ?
It's not. The older petrol Swifts use the M13, M15, M16A and K12 engines (in Europe anyway). The current Swifts use the K10 (turbo), K12 and K14 (turbo). The new Jimny uses the K15.
They've changed the engine code, but its the old 1200cc bored out to 1500cc. Engine is around 8/9 years old.

Klippie

3,096 posts

144 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Had a look at the new Jimny today, it looks even better in the metal than in the pictures, but is a tiny dinky little thing I sat inside with the seat as far back as it could go and still felt like my knees where up to my chin so I'd be quite uncomfortable driving one after a while, the build quality appeared to be top notch too everything had a solid usable feel to it.

Suzuki will sell them by the bucket load as they are so good looking and that's even before their legendary off road capabilities are taken into account.

Its very impressive.

DoctorX

7,240 posts

166 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Mercury00

4,098 posts

155 months

Friday 28th December 2018
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For those that have driven one, how did you find the ride? I've heard reviewers say it's jiggly. Suzukis always seem to be like that - I'm on my third and the ride over potholes has always been one of my few complaints. I'm just wondering if the Jimny soaks up the initial jarring of small ruts and potholes any better?

skyrover

12,668 posts

203 months

Friday 28th December 2018
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Mercury00 said:
For those that have driven one, how did you find the ride? I've heard reviewers say it's jiggly. Suzukis always seem to be like that - I'm on my third and the ride over potholes has always been one of my few complaints. I'm just wondering if the Jimny soaks up the initial jarring of small ruts and potholes any better?
Lie axles will always produce a slightly unsettled or different ride to what most people are used to coming from independent suspension.

Fitting softer suspension and shocks helps.

Personally I quite like the way they drive... a sort of "brickhouse swagger"

Edited by skyrover on Friday 28th December 07:50

hammo19

4,898 posts

195 months

Saturday 29th December 2018
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My local dealer in Durham said all gone and orders to fulfill. Not sure if they will get any more next year but phone again June/July next year.

However, managed to get first on the order list with dealer in Lincoln for a SZ5 but whatever colour arrives. He said North sold out but more available in South and going fast!

First time I have ordered a new car and not even looked or driven it - bit scary but on reviews and looks alone should be ideal for Teesdale area.


tim0409

4,354 posts

158 months

Saturday 29th December 2018
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I wouldn’t worry about not driving it; the ride was my main concern but having driven one I really liked it. It’s obviously different to a standard car but it’s not at all “agricultural” and handles fine for what it is. I found it fun to drive and the high driving position is nice.

Edited by tim0409 on Saturday 29th December 18:22

Dan W.

1,196 posts

77 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Well that's our allocation of Jimnys sold for the year, no more orders to be taken until 2020

Pothole

34,367 posts

281 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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I'm testing one on Saturday, but I'm not sure there's much point...

Todd Bonzalez

2,552 posts

161 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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I didn't really get on with it. For our use it was just too agricultural and shortly geared. Shame as I love love love the looks. If I lived in London or had a Farm I would probably buy one. I absolutely hated the steering but everything else was pretty well done. I loved how easy everything under the bonnet looked to work on. Very cool.

Surprised how much people are struggling to get them. When I went to the Coventry dealer just before Christmas they had 2 stock cars they were willing to sell me.

Dabooka

281 posts

104 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Dan W. said:
Well that's our allocation of Jimnys sold for the year, no more orders to be taken until 2020
For me at least this is good news; I’m not ready to buy, could with another year, and I’m wondering if there’s going to be a limited edition to mark 50yrs.

Dan W.

1,196 posts

77 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Dabooka said:
Dan W. said:
Well that's our allocation of Jimnys sold for the year, no more orders to be taken until 2020
For me at least this is good news; I’m not ready to buy, could with another year, and I’m wondering if there’s going to be a limited edition to mark 50yrs.
Would highly doubt it, they are only bringing 2000 units in the uk for 2020 so really cant build enough of the current one to warranty a special edition I think.