RE: New Suzuki Jimny leaked

RE: New Suzuki Jimny leaked

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300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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Kmoosa said:
Good point, but maybe the Vitara would be the more likely to draw interest from a potential Jimny buyer?
I doubt it very much. You wouldn’t walk into a Ford dealership to look at a Mustang and drive out in a diesel Fiesta. Anyone who does, simply wasn’t there to buy the Jimny in the first place.

em177

3,127 posts

163 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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It seems like this is the timeline:

- Build lots of hype: have no cars for sale
- Wait for hype to die down: have cars for sale

Seems a bit silly to me.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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em177 said:
It seems like this is the timeline:

- Build lots of hype: have no cars for sale
- Wait for hype to die down: have cars for sale

Seems a bit silly to me.
When I spoke to Suzuki, they basically blamed the demand and lack of cars on fact that the public wanted to buy it rofl

The exact words of the Suzuki sales manager to me:

“Blame the Americans and Asian market. They’ve all gone mad for it. Wanting to stick bodykits on them and make them look like G Wagens and all that kind of thing”

I asked if he thought that Suzuki should have known there would be demand for a new model and made sure there was plenty of production capacity, but he just shrugged at me and made it obvious he wasn’t interested in discussing it.

skyrover

12,668 posts

203 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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Lord Marylebone said:
When I spoke to Suzuki, they basically blamed the demand and lack of cars on fact that the public wanted to buy it rofl

The exact words of the Suzuki sales manager to me:

“Blame the Americans and Asian market. They’ve all gone mad for it. Wanting to stick bodykits on them and make them look like G Wagens and all that kind of thing”

I asked if he thought that Suzuki should have known there would be demand for a new model and made sure there was plenty of production capacity, but he just shrugged at me and made it obvious he wasn’t interested in discussing it.
The jimmy is not even sold in North America, so that's that excuse out the window.

Bill

52,479 posts

254 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
I doubt it very much. You wouldn’t walk into a Ford dealership to look at a Mustang and drive out in a diesel Fiesta. Anyone who does, simply wasn’t there to buy the Jimny in the first place.
Mustang Vs Fiesta?? More like Ranger Vs Kuga.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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skyrover said:
The jimmy is not even sold in North America, so that's that excuse out the window.
Well there we go.

Yet more proof, if any were needed, that anyone working in car sales cannot tell the truth.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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HorneyMX5 said:
Spotted this preproduction New Jimny in London today.

Wow. That really is it.

RATATTAK

10,593 posts

188 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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HorneyMX5 said:
Spotted this preproduction New Jimny in London today.

Only done 5 miles in 13 years ???

ukaskew

10,642 posts

220 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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BOTB are pushing these quite heavily as one of the cheapest options of cars to try and win on their site. I wonder how that would work considering you can't buy them.

Kmoosa

427 posts

198 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
I doubt it very much. You wouldn’t walk into a Ford dealership to look at a Mustang and drive out in a diesel Fiesta. Anyone who does, simply wasn’t there to buy the Jimny in the first place.
Must just be me then! I would have got a Vitara Boosterjet had the Jimny not been available. Having said that I may still get the Vitara as an addition due to its greater suitability for longer distances, so appreciate its a vehicle which fits different purposes for some. However I would have been happy with either, so it's perhaps not quite as cut and dried as you think for everyone out there.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

189 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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Kmoosa said:
Must just be me then! I would have got a Vitara Boosterjet had the Jimny not been available. Having said that I may still get the Vitara as an addition due to its greater suitability for longer distances, so appreciate its a vehicle which fits different purposes for some. However I would have been happy with either, so it's perhaps not quite as cut and dried as you think for everyone out there.
Nothing ever is.

However, I suspect that a significant proportion of Jimny owners/buyers or potential ones. Would buy such a car with their heart, not their head. i.e. it is something they "want" rather than "need".

Kmoosa

427 posts

198 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
Nothing ever is.

However, I suspect that a significant proportion of Jimny owners/buyers or potential ones. Would buy such a car with their heart, not their head. i.e. it is something they "want" rather than "need".
Completely agree with that, they do seem to have stirred up emotions in a few people.

One thing to think of is that if it's the company wide emissions / EU fines situation is accurate, then regardless of production capability and sales planning they can't import any significant number of vehicles full stop.

skyrover

12,668 posts

203 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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Until we leave the EU anyhow smile

Kmoosa

427 posts

198 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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skyrover said:
Until we leave the EU anyhow smile
Well you'd hope so, but the chances of us not having to align with them those regulations are pretty slim!

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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Kmoosa said:
skyrover said:
Until we leave the EU anyhow smile
Well you'd hope so, but the chances of us not having to align with them those regulations are pretty slim!
To be honest, I don’t see why anyone would want to NOT be aligned with regulations that enforce lower emissions.

Leaving an arrangement that tried to limit the amount of CO2 from vehicles is not something to be celebrated.

skyrover

12,668 posts

203 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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Lord Marylebone said:
Kmoosa said:
skyrover said:
Until we leave the EU anyhow smile
Well you'd hope so, but the chances of us not having to align with them those regulations are pretty slim!
To be honest, I don’t see why anyone would want to NOT be aligned with regulations that enforce lower emissions.

Leaving an arrangement that tried to limit the amount of CO2 from vehicles is not something to be celebrated.
I'm not concerned about CO2, however N0x and particulates are nasty. Thankfully petrol engines like that in the Jimmy don't produce much at all.

Kmoosa

427 posts

198 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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Lord Marylebone said:
To be honest, I don’t see why anyone would want to NOT be aligned with regulations that enforce lower emissions.

Leaving an arrangement that tried to limit the amount of CO2 from vehicles is not something to be celebrated.
Depends if that arrangement was responsible for increased emissions of other nasties, as we've seen over the last decade or so with diesels. But that's a Pandora's box for the EU and Climate change threads.

Point is, if the real reason the Jimny isn't being brought here in numbers is down to the fines, I think (hope) it could make for interesting residual values over the next few years!

Mexman

2,442 posts

83 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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We have a demo Jimny in white at our dealership.
To be honest?.......I really don't see what all the fuss is about.
Noisy, uncouth, slow, and wobbly and will be totally rotten underneath in 6 or 7 years time.
Just like the old ones all are.
Sorry, just don't get it......at all.

skyrover

12,668 posts

203 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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Do you drive off-road?

ChocolateFrog

24,852 posts

172 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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That's the thing though. Compare it to something like a Fiesta of similar value and it would lose in almost every metric, apart from maybe off-road ability. But from what I can tell people making the buying decisions are not reading what car and which magazine. They're judging it looks and price.

There's no logical reason why £100k G Wagons should be selling either.