Horses shouldn't be allowed on the country roads
Discussion
BigMacDaddy said:
Captain Smerc said:
Have you watched Final Destination ... ?
Was gonna say, I'm not loving your odds at this point
My father managed a racing career in the 60s without incident though and even when he tried rallying and ploughed a MKII through some trees he came out the other side unscathed. So there is a glimmer of hope!
Cotty said:
Horse vs cyclists, got to be the perfect storm
http://road.cc/content/news/243742-video-horse-and...
As a regular cyclist, that really annoys me. What sort of retard passes a horse like that?http://road.cc/content/news/243742-video-horse-and...
Trouble with this sort of video is that the hard of thinking will label all cyclists as being the same. So someone like me who doesn't race, is courteous to other road users and most definitely doesn't pass horses like that, will most probably be on the receiving end of some abuse now.
Cotty said:
Horse vs cyclists, got to be the perfect storm
http://road.cc/content/news/243742-video-horse-and...
Well, the cyclists are taking part in a triathlon, which is a RACE..http://road.cc/content/news/243742-video-horse-and...
what are they supposed to do in this situation, of course they aren't going to slow to a crawl.. But should they be racing on roads that haven't been closed in the first place?
But that guy going down the inside is a fking idiot and was definitely ignoring normal rules of the road. I don't think any of the others did anything wrong and her horse didn't seem bothered by them.
Shuvi McTupya said:
Well, the cyclists are taking part in a triathlon, which is a RACE..
what are they supposed to do in this situation, of course they aren't going to slow to a crawl.. But should they be racing on roads that haven't been closed in the first place?
But that guy going down the inside is a fking idiot and was definitely ignoring normal rules of the road. I don't think any of the others did anything wrong and her horse didn't seem bothered by them.
Well the rules of the road don’t change because of a private RACE. it’s not their private race track. what are they supposed to do in this situation, of course they aren't going to slow to a crawl.. But should they be racing on roads that haven't been closed in the first place?
But that guy going down the inside is a fking idiot and was definitely ignoring normal rules of the road. I don't think any of the others did anything wrong and her horse didn't seem bothered by them.
The legislation, certainly at local authority level I’ve explored does mention organisers should seek permisison from the Police and risk assessments will be made. It maybe marshalling seemed sufficient, or it maybe the road requires closing (eg dual carriageway or city centre). I looked at it after a nerve wracking near miss between myself, a petrol tanker and a road race being conducted on the A1.
Buggyjam said:
Well the rules of the road don’t change because of a private RACE. it’s not their private race track.
Yeah i get that, but it makes a farce of the whole event..whats the point in doing all the training and investing in all the expensive equipment and then entering an event and being told to keep the speed down!If the bike riders had slowed down upon seeing the horse there probably would have been a chain reaction wipe out..
Whats the betting that stretch of road was actually closed to traffic though and horsey woman decided she wasn't traffic and the rules don't apply to her?
Shuvi McTupya said:
Whats the betting that stretch of road was actually closed to traffic though and horsey woman decided she wasn't traffic and the rules don't apply to her?
Nope. Open public road.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-44...
Shuvi McTupya said:
Yeah i get that, but it makes a farce of the whole event..whats the point in doing all the training and investing in all the expensive equipment and then entering an event and being told to keep the speed down!
If the bike riders had slowed down upon seeing the horse there probably would have been a chain reaction wipe out..
Whats the betting that stretch of road was actually closed to traffic though and horsey woman decided she wasn't traffic and the rules don't apply to her?
The behaviours and whims of the cyclists wishing to race don’t get a pass over because it’s a race. It’s a live Highway for everyone to use within the road traffic act. If the bike riders had slowed down upon seeing the horse there probably would have been a chain reaction wipe out..
Whats the betting that stretch of road was actually closed to traffic though and horsey woman decided she wasn't traffic and the rules don't apply to her?
Cycling already has a pretty amazingly tolerant alleviation. Other forms of racing aren’t allowed on a live highway, not without extremely tight control. If the road traffic act is going to be a conflict for the cyclists with regard to the behaviour they wish to use under race circumstances, then the organisers are to express that to the Police and it could be possible they have to apply for and then pay for the section of the road to be shut.
Buggyjam said:
Shuvi McTupya said:
Yeah i get that, but it makes a farce of the whole event..whats the point in doing all the training and investing in all the expensive equipment and then entering an event and being told to keep the speed down!
If the bike riders had slowed down upon seeing the horse there probably would have been a chain reaction wipe out..
Whats the betting that stretch of road was actually closed to traffic though and horsey woman decided she wasn't traffic and the rules don't apply to her?
The behaviours and whims of the cyclists wishing to race don’t get a pass over because it’s a race. It’s a live Highway for everyone to use within the road traffic act. If the bike riders had slowed down upon seeing the horse there probably would have been a chain reaction wipe out..
Whats the betting that stretch of road was actually closed to traffic though and horsey woman decided she wasn't traffic and the rules don't apply to her?
Shuvi McTupya said:
Buggyjam said:
Well the rules of the road don’t change because of a private RACE. it’s not their private race track.
Yeah i get that, but it makes a farce of the whole event..whats the point in doing all the training and investing in all the expensive equipment and then entering an event and being told to keep the speed down!Shuvi McTupya said:
Buggyjam said:
Well the rules of the road don’t change because of a private RACE. it’s not their private race track.
Yeah i get that, but it makes a farce of the whole event..whats the point in doing all the training and investing in all the expensive equipment and then entering an event and being told to keep the speed down!Buggyjam said:
TooMany2cvs said:
...and for horse riders.
That’s a common jokey argument against it. You don’t see horse riders holding the grand national on the A1 Racing really should be held on closed roads as it will always lead to a degradation of road sense. Does seem odd that the bloke in London could be done for 'furious' riding, an offence I believe from way past to stop people racing horses on the highway, yet cycle racing isn't seen as the same.
British Cycling sanctioned road races are tightly controlled, and should have a lead car, a second car, then a car containing the race commissaire, who will neutralise the race if necessary. All vehicles will be in radio contact, and the lead car should be able to give the commissaire a good thirty second warning of anything that might be a danger, including horses.
Triathlons are a free for all...
Triathlons are a free for all...
gazza285 said:
British Cycling sanctioned road races are tightly controlled, and should have a lead car, a second car, then a car containing the race commissaire, who will neutralise the race if necessary. All vehicles will be in radio contact, and the lead car should be able to give the commissaire a good thirty second warning of anything that might be a danger, including horses.
Triathlons are a free for all...
They have them near me and are generally well organised and signed, but cyclists will take risks on the roundabouts that they wouldn't if they weren't racing.Triathlons are a free for all...
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