Horses shouldn't be allowed on the country roads

Horses shouldn't be allowed on the country roads

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BigMacDaddy

963 posts

180 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Captain Smerc said:
Have you watched Final Destination ... ?
laugh

Was gonna say, I'm not loving your odds at this point wink

DonkeyApple

54,934 posts

168 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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BigMacDaddy said:
Captain Smerc said:
Have you watched Final Destination ... ?
laugh

Was gonna say, I'm not loving your odds at this point wink
Indeed. It doesn’t get much better on my maternal side as my grandfather built his own car before the war but drove it before it was completed and his trench coat caught itself in the prop shaft and dragged him off the seat, to the floor and the car came to a rest in a tree. He became an Alfa man after the war so clearly wasn’t put off from driving unfinished cars though. His father had form for driving his car into his own shop between the wars. My paternal great uncle wrecked a Bug at Brooklands.

My father managed a racing career in the 60s without incident though and even when he tried rallying and ploughed a MKII through some trees he came out the other side unscathed. So there is a glimmer of hope!

Cotty

39,393 posts

283 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Horse vs cyclists, got to be the perfect storm
http://road.cc/content/news/243742-video-horse-and...

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

227 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Cotty said:
Horse vs cyclists, got to be the perfect storm
http://road.cc/content/news/243742-video-horse-and...
As a regular cyclist, that really annoys me. What sort of retard passes a horse like that?

Trouble with this sort of video is that the hard of thinking will label all cyclists as being the same. So someone like me who doesn't race, is courteous to other road users and most definitely doesn't pass horses like that, will most probably be on the receiving end of some abuse now.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

246 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Cotty said:
Horse vs cyclists, got to be the perfect storm
http://road.cc/content/news/243742-video-horse-and...
Well, the cyclists are taking part in a triathlon, which is a RACE..

what are they supposed to do in this situation, of course they aren't going to slow to a crawl.. But should they be racing on roads that haven't been closed in the first place?

But that guy going down the inside is a fking idiot and was definitely ignoring normal rules of the road. I don't think any of the others did anything wrong and her horse didn't seem bothered by them.


Buggyjam

539 posts

78 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Shuvi McTupya said:
Well, the cyclists are taking part in a triathlon, which is a RACE..

what are they supposed to do in this situation, of course they aren't going to slow to a crawl.. But should they be racing on roads that haven't been closed in the first place?

But that guy going down the inside is a fking idiot and was definitely ignoring normal rules of the road. I don't think any of the others did anything wrong and her horse didn't seem bothered by them.
Well the rules of the road don’t change because of a private RACE. it’s not their private race track.

The legislation, certainly at local authority level I’ve explored does mention organisers should seek permisison from the Police and risk assessments will be made. It maybe marshalling seemed sufficient, or it maybe the road requires closing (eg dual carriageway or city centre). I looked at it after a nerve wracking near miss between myself, a petrol tanker and a road race being conducted on the A1.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Shuvi McTupya said:
But that guy going down the inside is a fking idiot
Both of 'em.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

246 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Buggyjam said:
Well the rules of the road don’t change because of a private RACE. it’s not their private race track.
Yeah i get that, but it makes a farce of the whole event..whats the point in doing all the training and investing in all the expensive equipment and then entering an event and being told to keep the speed down!

If the bike riders had slowed down upon seeing the horse there probably would have been a chain reaction wipe out..

Whats the betting that stretch of road was actually closed to traffic though and horsey woman decided she wasn't traffic and the rules don't apply to her?







TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Shuvi McTupya said:
Whats the betting that stretch of road was actually closed to traffic though and horsey woman decided she wasn't traffic and the rules don't apply to her?
Nope. Open public road.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-44...

Buggyjam

539 posts

78 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Shuvi McTupya said:
Yeah i get that, but it makes a farce of the whole event..whats the point in doing all the training and investing in all the expensive equipment and then entering an event and being told to keep the speed down!

If the bike riders had slowed down upon seeing the horse there probably would have been a chain reaction wipe out..

Whats the betting that stretch of road was actually closed to traffic though and horsey woman decided she wasn't traffic and the rules don't apply to her?
The behaviours and whims of the cyclists wishing to race don’t get a pass over because it’s a race. It’s a live Highway for everyone to use within the road traffic act.

Cycling already has a pretty amazingly tolerant alleviation. Other forms of racing aren’t allowed on a live highway, not without extremely tight control. If the road traffic act is going to be a conflict for the cyclists with regard to the behaviour they wish to use under race circumstances, then the organisers are to express that to the Police and it could be possible they have to apply for and then pay for the section of the road to be shut.



Gary C

12,315 posts

178 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Maybe racing on the public road should be illegal for cyclists as it is for drivers.


TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Gary C said:
Maybe racing on the public road should be illegal for cyclists as it is for drivers.
...and for horse riders.

Buggyjam

539 posts

78 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
...and for horse riders.
That’s a common jokey argument against it. You don’t see horse riders holding the grand national on the A1 biggrin

Mave

8,208 posts

214 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Buggyjam said:
Shuvi McTupya said:
Yeah i get that, but it makes a farce of the whole event..whats the point in doing all the training and investing in all the expensive equipment and then entering an event and being told to keep the speed down!

If the bike riders had slowed down upon seeing the horse there probably would have been a chain reaction wipe out..

Whats the betting that stretch of road was actually closed to traffic though and horsey woman decided she wasn't traffic and the rules don't apply to her?
The behaviours and whims of the cyclists wishing to race don’t get a pass over because it’s a race. It’s a live Highway for everyone to use within the road traffic act.
As someone who regularly cycles in triathlons, I agree.

poo at Paul's

14,116 posts

174 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Shuvi McTupya said:
Buggyjam said:
Well the rules of the road don’t change because of a private RACE. it’s not their private race track.
Yeah i get that, but it makes a farce of the whole event..whats the point in doing all the training and investing in all the expensive equipment and then entering an event and being told to keep the speed down!
Yielding for a couple of seconds on a triathlon is fk all. This should be banned from driving, he has no place being on the road on any form of wheels.

poo at Paul's

14,116 posts

174 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Shuvi McTupya said:
Buggyjam said:
Well the rules of the road don’t change because of a private RACE. it’s not their private race track.
Yeah i get that, but it makes a farce of the whole event..whats the point in doing all the training and investing in all the expensive equipment and then entering an event and being told to keep the speed down!
Yielding for a couple of seconds on a triathlon is fk all. This should be banned from driving, he has no place being on the road on any form of wheels.

Gary C

12,315 posts

178 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Buggyjam said:
TooMany2cvs said:
...and for horse riders.
That’s a common jokey argument against it. You don’t see horse riders holding the grand national on the A1 biggrin
Have a visit to some areas around Morecambe and Heysham !

Racing really should be held on closed roads as it will always lead to a degradation of road sense. Does seem odd that the bloke in London could be done for 'furious' riding, an offence I believe from way past to stop people racing horses on the highway, yet cycle racing isn't seen as the same.

gazza285

9,781 posts

207 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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British Cycling sanctioned road races are tightly controlled, and should have a lead car, a second car, then a car containing the race commissaire, who will neutralise the race if necessary. All vehicles will be in radio contact, and the lead car should be able to give the commissaire a good thirty second warning of anything that might be a danger, including horses.

Triathlons are a free for all...

Gandahar

9,600 posts

127 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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As horses are ridden on the road for enjoyment and bicycles are raced on the road for enjoyment I have decided to walk my dog on the road next Sunday, the middle of the A21....

Will stop my shoes getting too muddy too.

Gary C

12,315 posts

178 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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gazza285 said:
British Cycling sanctioned road races are tightly controlled, and should have a lead car, a second car, then a car containing the race commissaire, who will neutralise the race if necessary. All vehicles will be in radio contact, and the lead car should be able to give the commissaire a good thirty second warning of anything that might be a danger, including horses.

Triathlons are a free for all...
They have them near me and are generally well organised and signed, but cyclists will take risks on the roundabouts that they wouldn't if they weren't racing.