Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 13]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 13]

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Lowtimer

3,991 posts

105 months

Friday 11th January
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BigBen said:
Both take design hints from the contemporary S-Classes of the day, W140 in the case of the R129 and W220 in the case of the R230. I utterly loved my R230 and really regret selling it (although it was to fund a new business so was worth it) and can't really have another due to the never go back rule.
Other way round, if anything, The exRternal appearance of the R129 was pretty much done by 1985, by Johann Tomforder under Sacco. It predated the W140.

In 1985, and especially in the context of its long-running predecessor the R107, it was a deeply radical piece of design.

dme123

4,309 posts

126 months

Friday 11th January
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SpeckledJim said:
Salmonofdoubt said:
It's not the full on luxobarge that is the C6 but does anyone know much about these because it seems a very under the radar way to cover miles for the money.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
Can't argue against the value. You could get 10 presentable, sensible years out of that.

Also, the 3.0 in that is a decent chunk more powerful than the 2.7 in the C7 cars at similar budget.

Edited by SpeckledJim on Friday 11th January 11:44
I think that wants more attention, 240bhp from a torquey and very smooth 3 litre diesel in an extremely anonymous looking car and a bit of a sleeper. Very nice daily commuter, but knocking on for £5k seems a lot for a 9 year old repmobile?

Krikkit

13,902 posts

118 months

Friday 11th January
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The ad's disappeared so it was possibly a good price! I quite like that shape of C5.

This one with a petrol V6 looks tempting - I believe those buttons next to the handbrake/gear selector means it has the hydraulic suspension too. Two bags, 50k miles.





https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

ETA: I think I should also confess that, even having had no activity on this thread for ages, I think about owning a C6 once a week - it's that convex rear screen over everything else that does it. It's so fantastically mad.

Edited by Krikkit on Friday 11th January 12:53

Stegel

1,115 posts

111 months

Friday 11th January
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Krikkit said:
Sounds like the CLS and the E could perhaps do with new main batteries? My 211 goes very flaky if the battery is a little run down, which could be part of the CLS' foibles. Usually it presents as a white "electrical consumers switched off" message.
Absolutely. Our CLS was still on its original (13 year old) battery, and never gave issue. It’s been relegated to the spare car for the last year, and did less than 3,000 miles. Pressed into service while I worked on the 211, it threw dire warnings (all red) regarding ESC, ABS and airbags (always when my wife was driving it, of course) and even a couple of long motorway jaunts did not solve it. A new Varta battery from Tanya and all is well.

Jimmy Recard

15,192 posts

116 months

Friday 11th January
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Hi all.

About a month ago I got myself my first Mercedes. A W163 ML. So far I like it.

Can anyone here recommend a Mercedes forum for technical questions and such?

I’ve seen that there are quite a few, and I’d rather not sign up to them all to ask the same couple of questions on each one.

Thanks
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4941cc

25,320 posts

143 months

Friday 11th January
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Jimmy Recard said:
Hi all.

About a month ago I got myself my first Mercedes. A W163 ML. So far I like it.

Can anyone here recommend a Mercedes forum for technical questions and such?

I’ve seen that there are quite a few, and I’d rather not sign up to them all to ask the same couple of questions on each one.

Thanks
They're old enough and most problems common enough that I find simply typing the problem into either Google or YouTube pulls up all the related forum posts (which are often cross-posted anyway) and how-to videos. Has solved many issues I've had with old BMWs and Mercedes.

Jimmy Recard

15,192 posts

116 months

Friday 11th January
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4941cc said:
They're old enough and most problems common enough that I find simply typing the problem into either Google or YouTube pulls up all the related forum posts (which are often cross-posted anyway) and how-to videos. Has solved many issues I've had with old BMWs and Mercedes.
I haven’t found an answer for the two very specific questions I have though

JF87

549 posts

58 months

Friday 11th January
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Krikkit said:
The ad's disappeared so it was possibly a good price! I quite like that shape of C5.

This one with a petrol V6 looks tempting - I believe those buttons next to the handbrake/gear selector means it has the hydraulic suspension too. Two bags, 50k miles.

ETA: I think I should also confess that, even having had no activity on this thread for ages, I think about owning a C6 once a week - it's that convex rear screen over everything else that does it. It's so fantastically mad.

Edited by Krikkit on Friday 11th January 12:53
Quite like that. However (incoming old chestnut alert) I just couldn't bring myself to pay £540 VED on something so bland.

Whereas I'd happily cough up for a swoon-worthy C6.

olly755

2,200 posts

99 months

Friday 11th January
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A testimonial for ::these:: guys following delivery of my new plates in the correct font for the year and car. These are probably the best made and most accurate I've had. All my old bangers have them: modern fonts on old cars grate me far more than they should.


Lowtimer

3,991 posts

105 months

Friday 11th January
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Have those got some extremely subtle plate supplier marking etched into them which doesn't show up on the photos?

4941cc

25,320 posts

143 months

Friday 11th January
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Jimmy Recard said:
4941cc said:
They're old enough and most problems common enough that I find simply typing the problem into either Google or YouTube pulls up all the related forum posts (which are often cross-posted anyway) and how-to videos. Has solved many issues I've had with old BMWs and Mercedes.
I haven’t found an answer for the two very specific questions I have though
Which are?

Here is very often as good as anywhere, plenty of experience of older Mercs in this thread - different models of a given age all use similar systems and hardware in most cases.

Krikkit

13,902 posts

118 months

Friday 11th January
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olly755 said:
A testimonial for ::these:: guys following delivery of my new plates in the correct font for the year and car. These are probably the best made and most accurate I've had. All my old bangers have them: modern fonts on old cars grate me far more than they should.
I've used fancyplates in the past and been impressed at the quality. I must admit it's always been standard plates with the GB marker though.

While we're bearding about plates, what font should be on a 97 car?

They have 3 choices - b is slightly wider lettering than a, with c being significantly rounded as looks appropriate for pre-83.

Edited by Krikkit on Friday 11th January 14:50

Salmonofdoubt

298 posts

5 months

Friday 11th January
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dme123 said:
SpeckledJim said:
Salmonofdoubt said:
It's not the full on luxobarge that is the C6 but does anyone know much about these because it seems a very under the radar way to cover miles for the money.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
Can't argue against the value. You could get 10 presentable, sensible years out of that.

Also, the 3.0 in that is a decent chunk more powerful than the 2.7 in the C7 cars at similar budget.

Edited by SpeckledJim on Friday 11th January 11:44
I think that wants more attention, 240bhp from a torquey and very smooth 3 litre diesel in an extremely anonymous looking car and a bit of a sleeper. Very nice daily commuter, but knocking on for £5k seems a lot for a 9 year old repmobile?
I'm stuck at work today but was going to pop and have a look at it tomorrow morning. I'm not looking for a car just the slightly off radar leftfield nature of that had a certain appeal.

It wasn't cheap for a 9 year old rep mobile but it also wasn't a 4 cylinder chugger.

JF87

549 posts

58 months

Friday 11th January
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I'm a bit of a fusspot with regards to period-correct reg plates, and have used this place with good results:

https://www.gbshowplates.co.uk/

The site looks a bit Barry but they're a fair bit cheaper than fancyplates (AFAICR) and did a nice job on the plates for my E31.

Pick "Car Plain Pre 2001" from the drop-down menu. I also stuck in the original dealer name as a 'slogan' beneath.

Looked great.

SpeckledJim

16,569 posts

190 months

Friday 11th January
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Salmonofdoubt said:
dme123 said:
SpeckledJim said:
Salmonofdoubt said:
It's not the full on luxobarge that is the C6 but does anyone know much about these because it seems a very under the radar way to cover miles for the money.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
Can't argue against the value. You could get 10 presentable, sensible years out of that.

Also, the 3.0 in that is a decent chunk more powerful than the 2.7 in the C7 cars at similar budget.

Edited by SpeckledJim on Friday 11th January 11:44
I think that wants more attention, 240bhp from a torquey and very smooth 3 litre diesel in an extremely anonymous looking car and a bit of a sleeper. Very nice daily commuter, but knocking on for £5k seems a lot for a 9 year old repmobile?
I'm stuck at work today but was going to pop and have a look at it tomorrow morning. I'm not looking for a car just the slightly off radar leftfield nature of that had a certain appeal.

It wasn't cheap for a 9 year old rep mobile but it also wasn't a 4 cylinder chugger.
I think that later generation C5 is a nice enough thing. I'm a fan of the new Peugeot 508 as well. Very smart.

Around 25 minutes until they're in thread range.

Krikkit

13,902 posts

118 months

Friday 11th January
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SpeckledJim said:
I think that later generation C5 is a nice enough thing. I'm a fan of the new Peugeot 508 as well. Very smart.

Around 25 minutes until they're in thread range.
I haven't seen one yet, but I think it looks great. Exactly what Peugeot should be aiming for - smart, modern, not too flashy.

Dr Interceptor

5,058 posts

133 months

Friday 11th January
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olly755 said:
A testimonial for ::these:: guys following delivery of my new plates in the correct font for the year and car. These are probably the best made and most accurate I've had. All my old bangers have them: modern fonts on old cars grate me far more than they should.
They are great people - they made the oversized one for the rear of my Mini also.


LeighW

1,591 posts

125 months

Friday 11th January
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Jimmy Recard said:
Hi all.

About a month ago I got myself my first Mercedes. A W163 ML. So far I like it.

Can anyone here recommend a Mercedes forum for technical questions and such?

I’ve seen that there are quite a few, and I’d rather not sign up to them all to ask the same couple of questions on each one.

Thanks
I used THIS forum when I had my CLK, one of the regulars on there at the time was a Merc specialist (Mercland).

W00DY

11,346 posts

163 months

Friday 11th January
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W00DY

11,346 posts

163 months