That's it, I am no longer defending Cyclists!
Discussion
mehmehmeh said:
Here's a bonus pic of the same road from Google Maps showing a cyclist using one...but going the wrong way.
No helmet of course
That bike lane undulates because of all the dropped kerbs, it would be pretty uncomfortable to cycle on at any reasonable speed. No helmet of course
If it was levelled off then I'd imagine it would be a lot better used.
There is no obligation on cyclists to use bike lanes - in particular if they're bare minimum "will this do" facilities such as this.
And why is a helmet required to pootle home with the shopping?
Master Bean said:
If it just flashes it's almost certainly OK, unless it's the get you home emergency lamps. Most lights that have an option for steady on are not OK since BS (Probably meant in both ways) lights rarely have a flash mode and if it has a steady mode it has to be marked with the relevant BS code. But unless they have reduced crime to zero I can't see any police being bothered at all. In any event most cycles are technically illegal after dark I know mine are. Edited by Graveworm on Thursday 17th January 10:43
Some cycle lights have a flash mode designed to attract drivers’ attention through an irregular flash mode (e.g. as used by Bontrager’s Flare R rear light).
I guess the cycle lights with a pulse mode would be safer than flashing lights, would they?
What about brightness? How many Lumen is blinding?
swisstoni said:
I’d prefer there to be some residual light all the time.
Those lights that pulse are supposed to solve this, as they’re always on. E.g. the “SafePulse” mode in Light & Motion lights.I guess the cycle lights with a pulse mode would be safer than flashing lights, would they?
What about brightness? How many Lumen is blinding?
Mr Tidy said:
Meanwhile in Berkshire:- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-47...
What a wally. Good result. People's standards seem to suffer the most when they 'need' to get somewhere as quick as possible, be it driving or cycling their commute or competing in a triathlon in this case. You still get muppets on all forms of propulsion outside of these times, more likely those who are beyond help, but the proportion of willful bellendery increases on the way to / from work. DeltaTango said:
Mr Tidy said:
Meanwhile in Berkshire:- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-47...
What a wally. Good result. People's standards seem to suffer the most when they 'need' to get somewhere as quick as possible, be it driving or cycling their commute or competing in a triathlon in this case. You still get muppets on all forms of propulsion outside of these times, more likely those who are beyond help, but the proportion of willful bellendery increases on the way to / from work. Schmed said:
I seriously can't believe cyclists are arguing on here against wearing helmets.
Anybody I know who competes either off or on road wears a helmet. I just don't get why you wouldn't wear one, cycling is dangerous ; fall off even at 0 mph it's going to hurt. Anyone who argues against one must already be brain damaged.
I agree totally. But for my helmet, I would have died back in June last year. As it was, I was cleared to finish my ride (but didn't).Anybody I know who competes either off or on road wears a helmet. I just don't get why you wouldn't wear one, cycling is dangerous ; fall off even at 0 mph it's going to hurt. Anyone who argues against one must already be brain damaged.
No-one will give me a valid reason for not wearing one. Thankfully, for the younger generation, helmets are just automatic. My daughter won't go anywhere on her bike without one, and won't ride with me if I'm not wearing one.
mcelliott said:
Bicycle lights can be used with a dip - I've got about 3 or 4 settings on mine. As regards to rear lights on bicycles, as a car driver I don't like the flashing red light - very difficult to work out distance, and the pulsating front light is a real pain in the ass.
Flashing lights are infinitely easier to spot though. thiscocks said:
Yeah my rear bike light is fairly bright so usually have it on constant. The flashing mode is ok in dusk / day but is probably a bit unpleasant to look at in total darkness.
I use an Exposure Blaze rear. It has a perfect setting, a 40 lumen constant light that pulses at 80 lumens.I got glowered at by a guy on a MTB yesterday. Seemingly for failing to give way to him as he passed a parked car on HIS side of the road.
It might have helped his case if he'd have had his front light switched on, but it wasn't. What the juddering f
k is the point of buying yourself £275-worth of Four4th OMG front light, and lugging it, and the battery pack, around with you if you don't switch it on in the dark???
His rear light was on though, and quite bright too. Just no good to me trying to spot it from dead-ahead...
It might have helped his case if he'd have had his front light switched on, but it wasn't. What the juddering f
k is the point of buying yourself £275-worth of Four4th OMG front light, and lugging it, and the battery pack, around with you if you don't switch it on in the dark???His rear light was on though, and quite bright too. Just no good to me trying to spot it from dead-ahead...
Ares said:
Schmed said:
I seriously can't believe cyclists are arguing on here against wearing helmets.
Anybody I know who competes either off or on road wears a helmet. I just don't get why you wouldn't wear one, cycling is dangerous ; fall off even at 0 mph it's going to hurt. Anyone who argues against one must already be brain damaged.
I agree totally. But for my helmet, I would have died back in June last year. As it was, I was cleared to finish my ride (but didn't).Anybody I know who competes either off or on road wears a helmet. I just don't get why you wouldn't wear one, cycling is dangerous ; fall off even at 0 mph it's going to hurt. Anyone who argues against one must already be brain damaged.
No-one will give me a valid reason for not wearing one. Thankfully, for the younger generation, helmets are just automatic. My daughter won't go anywhere on her bike without one, and won't ride with me if I'm not wearing one.
These days my skull is held together with bone cement, I always wear a lid when I'm clipped in as the risks of a fall are higher.
Freedom of choice gets more people cycling, that's a good thing IMO.
Each to their own
WinstonWolf said:
"I don't want to" is a valid reason. I started riding before helmets, learned to ride a motorbike without one too. Fallen off more times than I care to mention and never damaged my head. On some rides it's no more risky than walking so I don't bother.
These days my skull is held together with bone cement, I always wear a lid when I'm clipped in as the risks of a fall are higher.
Freedom of choice gets more people cycling, that's a good thing IMO.
Each to their own
Are you sure? These days my skull is held together with bone cement, I always wear a lid when I'm clipped in as the risks of a fall are higher.
Freedom of choice gets more people cycling, that's a good thing IMO.
Each to their own
mygoldfishbowl said:
WinstonWolf said:
"I don't want to" is a valid reason. I started riding before helmets, learned to ride a motorbike without one too. Fallen off more times than I care to mention and never damaged my head. On some rides it's no more risky than walking so I don't bother.
These days my skull is held together with bone cement, I always wear a lid when I'm clipped in as the risks of a fall are higher.
Freedom of choice gets more people cycling, that's a good thing IMO.
Each to their own
Are you sure? These days my skull is held together with bone cement, I always wear a lid when I'm clipped in as the risks of a fall are higher.
Freedom of choice gets more people cycling, that's a good thing IMO.
Each to their own
Quite sure, the bone cement has nothing to do with any form of head injury. WinstonWolf said:
"I don't want to" is a valid reason. I started riding before helmets, learned to ride a motorbike without one too. Fallen off more times than I care to mention and never damaged my head. On some rides it's no more risky than walking so I don't bother.
These days my skull is held together with bone cement, I always wear a lid when I'm clipped in as the risks of a fall are higher.
Freedom of choice gets more people cycling, that's a good thing IMO.
Each to their own
But if you've never fallen off, why bother now when you see 'I don't want to wear one' as a valid reason?These days my skull is held together with bone cement, I always wear a lid when I'm clipped in as the risks of a fall are higher.
Freedom of choice gets more people cycling, that's a good thing IMO.
Each to their own
Ares said:
WinstonWolf said:
"I don't want to" is a valid reason. I started riding before helmets, learned to ride a motorbike without one too. Fallen off more times than I care to mention and never damaged my head. On some rides it's no more risky than walking so I don't bother.
These days my skull is held together with bone cement, I always wear a lid when I'm clipped in as the risks of a fall are higher.
Freedom of choice gets more people cycling, that's a good thing IMO.
Each to their own
But if you've never fallen off, why bother now when you see 'I don't want to wear one' as a valid reason?These days my skull is held together with bone cement, I always wear a lid when I'm clipped in as the risks of a fall are higher.
Freedom of choice gets more people cycling, that's a good thing IMO.
Each to their own
If I'm bimbling about on a sit up and beg I still won't generally wear one.
ETA: I probably shouldn't mention that I'm also currently partially deaf so I wear headphones to block out the noise
Edited by WinstonWolf on Wednesday 30th January 15:38
WinstonWolf said:
I used to fall off *a lot*. Thanks to a non-cancerous tumour snacking on my skull over the years it ended up looking like a doily hence the bone cement. The risks for me are now higher than they were so I make a personal choice to always wear a lid when clipped in.
If I'm bimbling about on a sit up and beg I still won't generally wear one.
If you're that accident prone, maybe should need one even more. I fell off twice in 20,000km last year. And not at all in 18,000km the year before.If I'm bimbling about on a sit up and beg I still won't generally wear one.
Ares said:
WinstonWolf said:
I used to fall off *a lot*. Thanks to a non-cancerous tumour snacking on my skull over the years it ended up looking like a doily hence the bone cement. The risks for me are now higher than they were so I make a personal choice to always wear a lid when clipped in.
If I'm bimbling about on a sit up and beg I still won't generally wear one.
If you're that accident prone, maybe should need one even more. I fell off twice in 20,000km last year. And not at all in 18,000km the year before.If I'm bimbling about on a sit up and beg I still won't generally wear one.
rodericb said:
And they were off duty police and now he has a day in court to look forward to.
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