That's it, I am no longer defending Cyclists!

[AllyBassman]

funkyrobot said:

Here we go again.

Do you moan when you get stuck in traffic jams? I bet you are held up much more by other drivers than a few cyclists.

Not at all, I am meerly moaning about the continued use of the road in question. It's just plain daft IMO.

I would put it up on Google street view, but as the path is so new it's not been updated yet.

[neil-1323bolts]

Cycle lanes round my way are mostly useless, not long enough lead nowhere or poorly maintained, so I very rarely use them . Car drivers on a whole are pretty decent , just the odd few are idiots , same old story I guess . On the flip of that I guess a small percentage of cyclists are also idiots . I did have a lorry driver pull out on me yesterday though, just never saw me .

[crusty]

BobSaunders said:

The road is additionally free for all to use. Cycle lanes are optional. Until that changes, legally, then there is no discussion or argument.

This, in a nutshell, is the problem.

The attitude of some cyclists.

Yes, of course you can use the road, yes, it is free for all to use, BUT by exercising this right, even when a purpose built path has been provided to help both you and the motorists....

tt

[WinstonWolf]

funkyrobot said:

Byker28i said:

We met a couple of lycra clad road terrorists at the weekend riding side by side with the outside one riding on the centre white line. 3 cars in convoy, the first overtakes on the other side of the road, which seems to infuriate said riders who then decide to ride down the center of each lane, only moving over when a car comes in the opposite direction. They kept this up for a few miles until the road widened and the others also got past.

Lycra clad road terrorists.

That's great coming from an organ donor.

We're not stuck in traffic, we are the traffic. (unless I'm on my bike! )

[funkyrobot]

crusty said:

BobSaunders said:

The road is additionally free for all to use. Cycle lanes are optional. Until that changes, legally, then there is no discussion or argument.

This, in a nutshell, is the problem.

The attitude of some cyclists.

Yes, of course you can use the road, yes, it is free for all to use, BUT by exercising this right, even when a purpose built path has been provided to help both you and the motorists....

tt

How dare he ride on your road. What a wker.

[funkyrobot]

WinstonWolf said:

funkyrobot said:

Byker28i said:

We met a couple of lycra clad road terrorists at the weekend riding side by side with the outside one riding on the centre white line. 3 cars in convoy, the first overtakes on the other side of the road, which seems to infuriate said riders who then decide to ride down the center of each lane, only moving over when a car comes in the opposite direction. They kept this up for a few miles until the road widened and the others also got past.

Lycra clad road terrorists.

That's great coming from an organ donor.

We're not stuck in traffic, we are the traffic. (unless I'm on my bike! )

Some people clearly do not understand the cause of a traffic jam.

It's nice to see that there are still plenty of impatient, angry people on the roads.

[Sycamore]

I think it depends on the lycra-ness of the cyclist.

I cycle my ~5 mile commute, 4 miles of which is on a cycle lane which is separated from a busy road.

Casual looking people in shorts, a high-vis, backpack on etc use the cycle lanes.

Those in a full condom suit still use the road, ignoring the cleaner, smoother, safer cycle lane. No idea.

[funkyrobot]

Sycamore said:

I think it depends on the lycra-ness of the cyclist.

I cycle my ~5 mile commute, 4 miles of which is on a cycle lane which is separated from a busy road.

Casual looking people in shorts, a high-vis, backpack on etc use the cycle lanes.

Those in a full condom suit still use the road, ignoring the cleaner, smoother, safer cycle lane. No idea.

So, the slow people use the cycle lane. Those that want to crack on have to use the road.

Just shows how suitable the cycle lanes are in some places.

Nice to see you judge people because of their mode of transport and attire. Did you know that all German brand car drivers are s? Especially those with pencil ties and pointy shoes.

[WinstonWolf]

funkyrobot said:

WinstonWolf said:

funkyrobot said:

Byker28i said:

We met a couple of lycra clad road terrorists at the weekend riding side by side with the outside one riding on the centre white line. 3 cars in convoy, the first overtakes on the other side of the road, which seems to infuriate said riders who then decide to ride down the center of each lane, only moving over when a car comes in the opposite direction. They kept this up for a few miles until the road widened and the others also got past.

Lycra clad road terrorists.

That's great coming from an organ donor.

We're not stuck in traffic, we are the traffic. (unless I'm on my bike! )

Some people clearly do not understand the cause of a traffic jam.

It's nice to see that there are still plenty of impatient, angry people on the roads.

A fully racered up Civic Type R buzzed me in Crowland the other morning. It was sooo beautiful to beat him to Newborough, on a bicycle

[swisstoni]

I'd love to know the cost per cyclist of all the cycle 'schemes' in the UK over, say, the last 15 years.
And those heads counted would have to be regular road users, not just people who own a bike in a shed with flat tyres - that would include just about everyone in the UK

[funkyrobot]

WinstonWolf said:

funkyrobot said:

WinstonWolf said:

funkyrobot said:

Byker28i said:

We met a couple of lycra clad road terrorists at the weekend riding side by side with the outside one riding on the centre white line. 3 cars in convoy, the first overtakes on the other side of the road, which seems to infuriate said riders who then decide to ride down the center of each lane, only moving over when a car comes in the opposite direction. They kept this up for a few miles until the road widened and the others also got past.

Lycra clad road terrorists.

That's great coming from an organ donor.

We're not stuck in traffic, we are the traffic. (unless I'm on my bike! )

Some people clearly do not understand the cause of a traffic jam.

It's nice to see that there are still plenty of impatient, angry people on the roads.

A fully racered up Civic Type R buzzed me in Crowland the other morning. It was sooo beautiful to beat him to Newborough, on a bicycle

[funkyrobot]

swisstoni said:

I'd love to know the cost per cyclist of all the cycle 'schemes' in the UK over, say, the last 15 years.
And those heads counted would have to be regular road users, not just people who own a bike in a shed with flat tyres - that would include just about everyone in the UK

It would be nice if the schemes were implemented properly. Most of the time it looks like someone has literally slapped some paint down and ticked their box. It's a damn shame because cycle lanes are something that could be very useful if done properly.

[Sycamore]

funkyrobot said:

Sycamore said:

I think it depends on the lycra-ness of the cyclist.

I cycle my ~5 mile commute, 4 miles of which is on a cycle lane which is separated from a busy road.

Casual looking people in shorts, a high-vis, backpack on etc use the cycle lanes.

Those in a full condom suit still use the road, ignoring the cleaner, smoother, safer cycle lane. No idea.

So, the slow people use the cycle lane. Those that want to crack on have to use the road.

Just shows how suitable the cycle lanes are in some places.

Nice to see you judge people because of their mode of transport and attire. Did you know that all German brand car drivers are s? Especially those with pencil ties and pointy shoes.

Merely an observation sweetie.

It's easier to "crack on" on the perfectly suitable cycle lane - One of the few cycle lanes that is fit for purpose.

Can still easily overtake them as it's such a busy road so is always slow moving, so they're stuck behind vehicles, traffic lights.

I agree most cycle lanes are st, but this one has two lanes, and is in great condition. But people are still sat in the road.

As for judging people on their choice of attire, is that not precisely what you did?
People in more casual clothing are slow, and lycra-clad are obviously quicker?

fk me PH is pissy when it comes to cyclists, from both sides

Edit: Have a German car, pencil tie and pointy shoes - Can confirm

[funkyrobot]

Sycamore said:

funkyrobot said:

Sycamore said:

I think it depends on the lycra-ness of the cyclist.

I cycle my ~5 mile commute, 4 miles of which is on a cycle lane which is separated from a busy road.

Casual looking people in shorts, a high-vis, backpack on etc use the cycle lanes.

Those in a full condom suit still use the road, ignoring the cleaner, smoother, safer cycle lane. No idea.

So, the slow people use the cycle lane. Those that want to crack on have to use the road.

Just shows how suitable the cycle lanes are in some places.

Nice to see you judge people because of their mode of transport and attire. Did you know that all German brand car drivers are s? Especially those with pencil ties and pointy shoes.

Merely an observation sweetie.

It's easier to "crack on" on the perfectly suitable cycle lane - One of the few cycle lanes that is fit for purpose.

Can still easily overtake them as it's such a busy road so is always slow moving, so they're stuck behind vehicles, traffic lights.

I agree most cycle lanes are st, but this one has two lanes, and is in great condition. But people are still sat in the road.

As for judging people on their choice of attire, is that not precisely what you did?
People in more casual clothing are slow, and lycra-clad are obviously quicker?

fk me PH is pissy when it comes to cyclists, from both sides

I was actually joking hun. Oh well, get the parrot.

[donkmeister]

There's a post-war new town in Hertfordshire, Stevenage, which was built under the direction of a keen cyclist. It has a brilliant system whereby cyclists and pedestrians are fully segregated from the roads. There are even underpasses for the many roundabouts, and the surfaces are maintained and swept by the council...
It's thankfully rare, but you still get the occasional throbber cycling on a busy dual carriageway in rush hour, despite the presence of two excellent cycleways parallel to the road just 20 feet to their left and 80 feet to their right.

[Sycamore]

funkyrobot said:

Sycamore said:

funkyrobot said:

Sycamore said:

I think it depends on the lycra-ness of the cyclist.

I cycle my ~5 mile commute, 4 miles of which is on a cycle lane which is separated from a busy road.

Casual looking people in shorts, a high-vis, backpack on etc use the cycle lanes.

Those in a full condom suit still use the road, ignoring the cleaner, smoother, safer cycle lane. No idea.

So, the slow people use the cycle lane. Those that want to crack on have to use the road.

Just shows how suitable the cycle lanes are in some places.

Nice to see you judge people because of their mode of transport and attire. Did you know that all German brand car drivers are s? Especially those with pencil ties and pointy shoes.

Merely an observation sweetie.

It's easier to "crack on" on the perfectly suitable cycle lane - One of the few cycle lanes that is fit for purpose.

Can still easily overtake them as it's such a busy road so is always slow moving, so they're stuck behind vehicles, traffic lights.

I agree most cycle lanes are st, but this one has two lanes, and is in great condition. But people are still sat in the road.

As for judging people on their choice of attire, is that not precisely what you did?
People in more casual clothing are slow, and lycra-clad are obviously quicker?

fk me PH is pissy when it comes to cyclists, from both sides

I was actually joking. Oh well, get the parrot.

If so then the whoosh is fully deserved.
Now fk off out of the road

[funkyrobot]

Sycamore said:

funkyrobot said:

Sycamore said:

funkyrobot said:

Sycamore said:

I think it depends on the lycra-ness of the cyclist.

I cycle my ~5 mile commute, 4 miles of which is on a cycle lane which is separated from a busy road.

Casual looking people in shorts, a high-vis, backpack on etc use the cycle lanes.

Those in a full condom suit still use the road, ignoring the cleaner, smoother, safer cycle lane. No idea.

So, the slow people use the cycle lane. Those that want to crack on have to use the road.

Just shows how suitable the cycle lanes are in some places.

Nice to see you judge people because of their mode of transport and attire. Did you know that all German brand car drivers are s? Especially those with pencil ties and pointy shoes.

Merely an observation sweetie.

It's easier to "crack on" on the perfectly suitable cycle lane - One of the few cycle lanes that is fit for purpose.

Can still easily overtake them as it's such a busy road so is always slow moving, so they're stuck behind vehicles, traffic lights.

I agree most cycle lanes are st, but this one has two lanes, and is in great condition. But people are still sat in the road.

As for judging people on their choice of attire, is that not precisely what you did?
People in more casual clothing are slow, and lycra-clad are obviously quicker?

fk me PH is pissy when it comes to cyclists, from both sides

I was actually joking. Oh well, get the parrot.

If so then the whoosh is fully deserved.
Now fk off out of the road :hammer:

I'll fk off out of the road when I have a decent cycle lane to use. I did use one for getting to my old job, but it wasn't the best. I used my hybrid on it, wouldn't do it with my road bikes.

[Killboy]

I have nothing to add other than I cycled in today, through London, and really enjoyed it. The cycle lane separation on Victoria Embankment is great, and the super highways have made it a lot safer than it was in the past. Still saw some prized driving and cycling however.

[Byker28i]

chow pan toon said:

Byker28i said:

We met a couple of lycra clad road terrorists at the weekend riding side by side with the outside one riding on the centre white line. 3 cars in convoy, the first overtakes on the other side of the road, which seems to infuriate said riders who then decide to ride down the center of each lane, only moving over when a car comes in the opposite direction. They kept this up for a few miles until the road widened and the others also got past.

I'll take "things that never happened for 20 please"

I'll pull off the dashcam footage...

[funkyrobot]

Byker28i said:

chow pan toon said:

Byker28i said:

We met a couple of lycra clad road terrorists at the weekend riding side by side with the outside one riding on the centre white line. 3 cars in convoy, the first overtakes on the other side of the road, which seems to infuriate said riders who then decide to ride down the center of each lane, only moving over when a car comes in the opposite direction. They kept this up for a few miles until the road widened and the others also got past.

I'll take "things that never happened for 20 please"

I'll pull off the dashcam footage...

That's a weird fetish you have there.