2 cracked alloys and 6 damaged tyres in 15 months

2 cracked alloys and 6 damaged tyres in 15 months

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S2r

667 posts

78 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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The way to get potholes repaired is to report them to the local authority / council, most you can do on line. All councils will have a maintenance manual that covers stuff like this and gives response times for dealing with the problems - my council also keeps me updated by various emails "thanks for your notification"... "we're doing it on Thursday"..."works completed" type thing. If everyone on here reported 1 or 2 imagine how many would be fixed and if they suddenly received a massive influx then they would have to do something about it.

If it hasn't been reported then their initial defense will probably be something along the lines of "it's not our problem as we weren't aware of it, how can we fix something that we don't know about?" which is understandable

So, when you do hit a hole hard enough to break something, get photos of the hole if you can because if you try make a claim then they will fix it so they don't get any more for that particular hole - no good going back a week later to take some pictures as it may not be there.

However, on a cautionary note, the Council will have more information about the roads than you think and spurious claims about potholes are sometimes defended, and won with costs awarded. Even if you decide to drop the claim part way through, they may still go after you through the courts for costs, and get them.

Saying that, when I broke 2 Jaguar wheels, the main dealer managed to supply me with 2 new bent ones anyway so it may be that you've got rubbish wheels...

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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A friend of mine that works for AMG HPP has had a few Mercedes company cars and all have had some sort of wheel bending issue. Could be coincidence, but I don't know anyone else with so many wheel problems. He had to have all 4 replaced on the last one before he could hand it back eek

Edited by mstrbkr on Saturday 21st July 09:19

T5R+

1,225 posts

209 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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mstrbkr said:
A friend of mine that works for AMG HPP has had a few Mercedes company cars and all have had some sort of wheel bending issue. Could be coincidence, but I don't know anyone else with so many wheel problems. He had to have all 4 replaced on the last one before he could and it back eek
The actual fire-breathing AMG did manage to bend/warp alloy wheels. Whereas, AMGlitz do not produce the same torque/power.


As a general observation.

It is massively well known that MB AMG "stylee" alloy wheels of more recent years have rogue units ranging from bending, cracking. pitting to snail-trails. There are 1000s of owners out there with issues...........it is not new news.

Other marques also have the same issues eg BMW are well known for cracked rims with RFT.

keelbyfish

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21 posts

73 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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As I’ve said previously, when I’ve damaged an alloy, you know about it but it’s not always practical to take a photo especially if it’s on s motowY slip road.

I’ve no idea when or how the tyres get damaged. Blebbs just appear so it’s difficult to honestly point the finger at a local authority

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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All of this "but the rims are chocolate, it's all Merc's fault" ignores one rather major point.

The OP has done six tyres but only two rims.

It also, depending on the depth of your fanboiism, may ignore a minor one. AMG are the arms-length halo engineering division, are they not? So whytf are they signing off on such ste?

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Cracking 19 or 20 inch alloys with super low profile tyres? Amateur effort.

My wife is a professional.

13 inch steelies with 155/70 tyres. spin


JxJ Jr.

652 posts

70 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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cb1965 said:
No. it's all a conspiracy I tell you. They're fit for purpose, someone with 12" alloys on a Fiesta on PH said so rolleyes
Most of those links are all anecdotal, so worthless in proving the point.

The first involves a court case that failed to get certified as a class-action "...even after the plaintiffs were allowed to amend their complaint multiple times...the court concluded the “Plaintiffs would not be able to offer common evidence from which a reasonable jury could find the existence of a design defect.”" and "The court found the plaintiffs needed to offer expert testimony to support their theory of a design defect of the wheel rims, but the plaintiffs did not offer such testimony."

It would not be difficult to find an expert witness to testify, there are people and companies that specialise in that and alloy wheels would be on the less complex end of the spectrum.That they couldn't even manage that gives even less credence to your position.

mighty kitten

431 posts

133 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Thank god for big rims , I’ve gone from a £300 Chinese ac Tig to a 3k 250a water cooled machine all paid for bm/Audi/merc cracked rims .

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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swerni said:
You have several issues
The first being, the car wasn’t specified for the kind of driving you’re doing, appearance over practicality.
Next is the state of the roads are getting worse, not MB fault or problem.
Finally ( and genuinely not a dig) you’re observation skills must be lacking or your driving too close to other cars or too fast.

Either that or you’re very unlucky.


Personally I’d put smaller wheels and bigger tyres and be more careful.

Or you could listen to CBeebies, group together with other owners on the basis he says they aren’t fit for purpose and take them to court.
You're ignoring the possibility that the wheels might just be ste.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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janesmith1950 said:
ou're ignoring the possibility that the wheels might just be ste.
And you're still ignoring the fact he's done three times as many tyres as wheels.

C70R

17,596 posts

104 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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swerni said:
With such an expert on side, I’m sure they’ll offer and instant refund.
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Don’t give up your day job princess.
swerni said:
Ironically, your white night mr CBeebies does.
swerni said:
Finally ( and genuinely not a dig) you’re observation skills must be lacking or your driving too close to other cars or too fast.
What a st poster you are.
How do you muster the energy to contribute THIRTY THOUSAND posts of such utter, condescending drivel?

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
janesmith1950 said:
ou're ignoring the possibility that the wheels might just be ste.
And you're still ignoring the fact he's done three times as many tyres as wheels.
'Still'? Eh?

The person I quoted listed a number of reasons this might have been happening to the OP. He/She missed out the possibility that the equipment might not be up to scratch. I pointed this out.

For what it's worth, I've hit tons of nasty potholes with my 20", 265/30 BMW front wheels and *touch wood* haven't had an issue over the past year or so.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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janesmith1950 said:
The person I quoted listed a number of reasons this might have been happening to the OP. He/She missed out the possibility that the equipment might not be up to scratch. I pointed this out.
Yes, yes, yes. That may or may not explain the two rims.

But what about the other four times, when he did the tyres but not the rims?

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Yes, yes, yes. That may or may not explain the two rims.

But what about the other four times, when he did the tyres but not the rims?
Sometimes a problem has multiple causes.

silentbrown

8,823 posts

116 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
But what about the other four times, when he did the tyres but not the rims?
I think OP said blebs each time, which is usually impact damage. Have we heard what model MB this is, and what profile the tyres are?

Would be interested to know if it's always the same wheel/axle, and the exact make/size of tyres. If all four of the original fitment tyres developed blebs a faulty batch isn't impossible. (although admittedly unlikely given the correlation with damaged rims.)

If you consider a tyre to be faulty there is a process for complaints and inspection here. https://btmauk.com/consumer-complaints-tyres/






TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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silentbrown said:
Have we heard what model MB this is, and what profile the tyres are?
Current shape E-class, optional AMG 20" for £595 current price, so standard-fit AMG 19", so either C63 (non-S) or AMG-line. Highish annual mileage, so most likely diesel AMG-line.

keelbyfish

Original Poster:

21 posts

73 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
silentbrown said:
Have we heard what model MB this is, and what profile the tyres are?
Current shape E-class, optional AMG 20" for £595 current price, so standard-fit AMG 19", so either C63 (non-S) or AMG-line. Highish annual mileage, so most likely diesel AMG-line.
Correct- E220. Think the majority opt for the AMG wheels and presumably the majority don’t post on here when/if they have problems.

Monkeylegend

26,335 posts

231 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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keelbyfish said:
Correct- E220. Think the majority opt for the AMG wheels and presumably the majority don’t post on here when/if they have problems.
I would suggest the majority opt for the standard 18" wheel, you see very few E220's on 20" wheels. You only have to have a quick look through the classifieds.

keelbyfish

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21 posts

73 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Monkeylegend said:
keelbyfish said:
Correct- E220. Think the majority opt for the AMG wheels and presumably the majority don’t post on here when/if they have problems.
I would suggest the majority opt for the standard 18" wheel, you see very few E220's on 20" wheels. You only have to have a quick look through the classifieds.
It’s the new shape- the cars with the standard wheels are usually taxis, and with hindsight, there’s a reason for that

Monkeylegend

26,335 posts

231 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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keelbyfish said:
Monkeylegend said:
keelbyfish said:
Correct- E220. Think the majority opt for the AMG wheels and presumably the majority don’t post on here when/if they have problems.
I would suggest the majority opt for the standard 18" wheel, you see very few E220's on 20" wheels. You only have to have a quick look through the classifieds.
It’s the new shape- the cars with the standard wheels are usually taxis, and with hindsight, there’s a reason for that
Have a look in PH classifieds and see how many E220's with 20" wheels you can find. You won't find many if any. You get the odd one with 19".

Most of the taxi/chauffeur cars will be more concerned with ride quality and tyre wear/cost so won't want 20" runflats.

Yours will be in a minority.