RE: New Jimny crushes it off-road: Time for Tea
Discussion
Trevor555 said:
I really like the look but the boot is just too small.
I wonder if they'll follow up with a five door version?
Probably not, they didn't do that with the previous generation. For those needing a spacious boot Instead they just offered an option to have the back seats remove and replaced with a plastic tray as Suzuki seem to view the Jimny as a utilitarian work horse.I wonder if they'll follow up with a five door version?
For those needing space for luggage and passengers I assume Suzuki just point customers towards the Vitara, which in S guise is a bit of an overlooked gem. I'm genuinely surprised I don't see more of those on the roads.
Suzuki's new line up is pretty decent. It's a shame that the new Swift Sport isn't quite as good as the old one but then I'm biased as I have a 1.6
All they need to do now is release an affordable roadster (bring back the Cappuccino!) and they'll have a competitive vehicle for every segment. (Although there is the Suzuki engined Caterham)
Fulla said:
Fulla said:
I wouldn't want one of these over a G-wagen....madness.
Sorry, I have the original notes in front of me and made a simple mistake...what I meant to say was I WOULD want one of these over a G-wagen....Phew, think I got away with that...
caelite said:
MC Bodge said:
Does it roll over like a proper one?
They (mostly) fixed that when they went to coil springs. I imagine it'll be like the current one, which snap overseers before it tips. (a truly terrifying experience, back inside wheel lifts, then you're facing the wrong direction).I rented a Jimny in Iceland, but was upgraded to a Dacia Duster, which I was very impressed with on the F-roads (and encountered a number of very slowly driven Jimnys). I suspect that for everything other than the roughest/steepest leisure off-roading, the Duster would be the better car.
notread said:
Love it! Well done Suzuki. It doesn't fit my needs my needs at all, but I admire it in much the same way that, every time I visit Italy, I'm attracted to ratty old Panda 4x4s. Unpretentious, practical, characterful and fit for purpose. I hope you can get it on steel wheels?
I totally recognise this! If a 'wagon' version of this comes out (no extended arches, steelies and as Spartan a trim as possible) it would also tick all family requirement boxes and would be a buy for me!
Edited by Nerdherder on Friday 20th July 19:01
Edited by Nerdherder on Friday 20th July 19:02
LimaDelta said:
unsprung said:
and how do we like those approach and departure angles? no data to hand, but they do look more than accommodating
Here you go...
Plenty more info here
acres of content at your link, there
also some evidence that this tidy off-roader responds well to a range of distinct colours
MC Bodge said:
caelite said:
MC Bodge said:
Does it roll over like a proper one?
They (mostly) fixed that when they went to coil springs. I imagine it'll be like the current one, which snap overseers before it tips. (a truly terrifying experience, back inside wheel lifts, then you're facing the wrong direction).I rented a Jimny in Iceland, but was upgraded to a Dacia Duster, which I was very impressed with on the F-roads (and encountered a number of very slowly driven Jimnys). I suspect that for everything other than the roughest/steepest leisure off-roading, the Duster would be the better car.
Offroad, you are comparing a solid axle, locking central differential to an independent suspension, viscous coupling diff. Whilst the latter will get you there, when stuff gets slippy the VC diff will not have a good time, and a solid axle design is far more robust and less likely to suffer from any serious knocks. That being said, as you say for light gravel track use the Dacia will likely not lose any ground. It depends what you are looking for, for frequent rough road use the more robust design of the Jimny will suffer less from geometry issues in my opinion.
I absolutely love the look of that LWB version render. One of those with the robust N/A 1.5 and a 1600kg towing capacity (current SWB 1.3 is 1300kg) and it'd be perfect.
caelite said:
Eh, the speed at which they are driven is like everything else, depends on the driver. I overtook 5 cars in one on the way home from work tonight (yay tourist season in rural Scotland). For what they are they drive fairly well, but unlike more modern IFS designs they take a bit of getting used to before you gain confidence as the front does feel rather numb on turn in, but once the suspension catches the weight you do get a good feel for the road, and they are far more pointy than their heavier contemporaries. They do however run out of puff at around 60mph so a ~65mph motorway cruising speed is something you need to get used to lest you want to kill all your mpg in a big way. I have seen an indicated 95 out of mine though, but the chassis is less than comfortable at this speed, especially when hit with crosswinds and passing wagons.
Offroad, you are comparing a solid axle, locking central differential to an independent suspension, viscous coupling diff. Whilst the latter will get you there, when stuff gets slippy the VC diff will not have a good time, and a solid axle design is far more robust and less likely to suffer from any serious knocks. That being said, as you say for light gravel track use the Dacia will likely not lose any ground. It depends what you are looking for, for frequent rough road use the more robust design of the Jimny will suffer less from geometry issues in my opinion.
I know that the it was the drivers who were probably nervous/slow rather than the car. I was just commenting on what I'd seen. There were other people driving slowly over small obstacles and along dust and gravel, but I don't recall what cars they were.Offroad, you are comparing a solid axle, locking central differential to an independent suspension, viscous coupling diff. Whilst the latter will get you there, when stuff gets slippy the VC diff will not have a good time, and a solid axle design is far more robust and less likely to suffer from any serious knocks. That being said, as you say for light gravel track use the Dacia will likely not lose any ground. It depends what you are looking for, for frequent rough road use the more robust design of the Jimny will suffer less from geometry issues in my opinion.
-The multiple Jimnys were the ones that stick in my mind. I suspect that I'd have driven one a bit more briskly.
For rock crawling and proper mud plugging the Jimny has advantages, not least with its low range gears.
From chatting with people in Icleand, the Duster was considered to be a better choice for the F roads and for river crossings -it certainly did well enough for me and it had about 150000Km on the clock. If everybody treated it to the driving we did, then it must be very robust. I'd like to go back to do some of the tougher tracks, but I would need a heavier truck for the bigger rivers.
The Jimny's advantage was always it's weight and size which in the majority of offroad situations makes it punch well above its weight. The new one looks to be even better Has the standard Zook 4wd system with a few sprinkles on top such as Hiil Decent. With the right tyres it will follow the best Land Rover Product all day long and get you home too.
Nerdherder said:
notread said:
Love it! Well done Suzuki. It doesn't fit my needs my needs at all, but I admire it in much the same way that, every time I visit Italy, I'm attracted to ratty old Panda 4x4s. Unpretentious, practical, characterful and fit for purpose. I hope you can get it on steel wheels?
I totally recognise this! If a 'wagon' version of this comes out (no extended arches, steelies and as Spartan a trim as possible) it would also tick all family requirement boxes and would be a buy for me!Edited by Nerdherder on Friday 20th July 19:01
Edited by Nerdherder on Friday 20th July 19:02
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