Supermarket Fuel, Facts Please

Supermarket Fuel, Facts Please

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cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

117 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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Thornaby said:
Believe what you want. He tells all of his customers to not fill up there. He doesnt own a petrol station so doesnt gain from it.

I'm assuming its blocked fuel filters. We had a lot of our work vans have this issue when filling up at Morrisons.
But that's not good business sense surely? According to your previous post he'll lose most of his business wont he?

It's utter bks, nothing wrong with supermarket fuel.


Edited by cbmotorsport on Monday 20th August 15:54

cheesesliceking

1,571 posts

239 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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“highly tuned lump”
Nope
Nope
Nope
Nope
Nope
Nope

It’s a fking dag,dag,dag,dag, diesel, albeit with a nice body. It’s not highly anything. Just use whatever diesel makes you feel better. I’d be putting the cheapest stuff in I could find, I mean you bought/leased it to save money right? So why pay more for Shell/BP’s bullst.

soupdragon1

3,966 posts

96 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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The amount of urban myths circulating the UK is comical. This is another one. As long as 'my mate Dave' believes it, then so should everyone else it seems!

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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Mr2Mike said:
Thornaby said:
a friend of mine runs a garage and he says that people who fill up at Tesco provide most of his business.
scratchchin
No, I believe him.

His garage is probably in a town where Tesco sells the majority of fuel.

LosingGrip

7,806 posts

158 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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Work vans only use Tesco fuel (seeing as I work for them...). Eight vans do 40,000 a year each (this is going to go up massively as areas are changing) and not a single problem from using Tesco fuel (although as a colleague found out, they don't like being filled up with petrol).

coldel

7,733 posts

145 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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So a random garage owner, based on his customers cars coming in and some anecdotal evidence thus deducts that you can claim without any reasonable doubt that supermarket fuels are much more likely to wreck car engines. Amazing that with all the media out there that investigates bad business practices not one has come out and said 'hey our investigation shows you are 500% more likely to damage your car with supermarket fuels' - probably because its a long running myth that people without the expertise to comment on continue to pedal rubbish to customers who do not know any better.

So who is the garage owner? Possibly a small business, near a Tesco, who looks after customers in the local area. Here's a thought - maybe is a coincidence that his local customers, who come in with problems, just also happen to fill up at Tesco because its also local - that if that Tesco were to disappear and get replaced by a Shell, and those customers still come in with the same problems, would your garage owner then say 'avoid Shell' ?

SAS Tom

3,398 posts

173 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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I use Asda fuel over 90% of the time in my car and bikes. No issues at all and using V power didn’t make a difference except to my wallet.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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There have been a few cases of contaminated fuels at supermarkets that have made the news, so probably sticks in people mind.

But companies like keyfuels, massive coverage use supermarket fuels. I'm sure if cars started going pop because if supermarket fuel they would stop using them.

coldel

7,733 posts

145 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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Yes and as others have said, it all comes from the same place the different businesses just add their own little recipe. Now, if supermarkets were adding a recipe that was damaging engines then it would have been found out by now - and there is huge regulation in these industries.

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

117 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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SAS Tom said:
I use Asda fuel over 90% of the time in my car and bikes. No issues at all and using V power didn’t make a difference except to my wallet.
I'm such a sucker for a bit of BP or Shell Super though in my bikes. I know it makes cock all difference but I just do it.

dazwalsh

6,095 posts

140 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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I run a citroen beringo van for work, and i couldnt care less what fuel went into it. Over winter it started cutting out on me when i was going up hills or accelerating quickly, until the point it wouldnt move unless i was ever so gently getting up to speed and any sort of incline and it would go again.

Anyways i called AA out to it and he immediately said it was due to cheap supermarket fuel gunging up the filter in cold weather. He showd me a photo of him curting open a filter and it was a milky sludge. Said it was his third of the day and numerous for the week. He mentioned tesco as having pretty horrendous quality fuel.

Deesee

8,331 posts

82 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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coldel said:
Yes and as others have said, it all comes from the same place the different businesses just add their own little recipe. Now, if supermarkets were adding a recipe that was damaging engines then it would have been found out by now - and there is huge regulation in these industries.
Different but did not stop them with the horse meat a few years back, I’d doubt the supermarket checks the fuel, everything for them is lowest price please.

Coire

15 posts

102 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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The only time I pay the extra is to put 99RON petrol in, if I'm driving anything remotely performance oriented. I remember my gen7 celica ran significantly better on the expensive stuff.

Diesel? I'd put whatever is cheapest in. After all i reckon the EGR will choke everything up long before the fuel quality makes a difference. Just personal opinion from owning some high mileage oil burners.

Save the money and use it for more frequent oil changes.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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dazwalsh said:
I run a citroen beringo van for work, and i couldnt care less what fuel went into it. Over winter it started cutting out on me when i was going up hills or accelerating quickly, until the point it wouldnt move unless i was ever so gently getting up to speed and any sort of incline and it would go again.

Anyways i called AA out to it and he immediately said it was due to cheap supermarket fuel gunging up the filter in cold weather. He showd me a photo of him curting open a filter and it was a milky sludge. Said it was his third of the day and numerous for the week. He mentioned tesco as having pretty horrendous quality fuel.
Milky would be water or condensation which is most likely a damaged fuel tank.

coldel

7,733 posts

145 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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Deesee said:
Different but did not stop them with the horse meat a few years back, I’d doubt the supermarket checks the fuel, everything for them is lowest price please.
Tesco sell more fuel in the UK than either Shell or BP, their operation is enormous - its not some side business attached to the food division. I would suspect given the billions it makes, it has a team in place checking fuel.

The horse meat you are right, is completely different. It was something deliberately covered up by a supplier - which is one of thousands of suppliers that feed into the food business. It is quite plausible that it could have been missed. Fuel however is all that the Tesco Fuel business does, its checks would be as stringent as BP or Shell, again as they are bigger fuel businesses in the UK than either of them.

alorotom

11,908 posts

186 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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60k miles worth of diesel in my Q7 almost exclusively with Morrisons, Sainsbury’s or Asda - zero issues

Audi S6, ran on the same for petrol, 45k miles
Audi TTRS same, low miles (under 6k)
Corsa VXR, Astra VXR, the same again
2x RX8s (192 and 231 variants) zero issues and didn’t affect rotor compression rates at all in 12mths of use.

I don’t buy into this constant fuel snobbery

Coire

15 posts

102 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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dazwalsh said:
He showd me a photo of him curting open a filter and it was a milky sludge. Said it was his third of the day and numerous for the week. He mentioned tesco as having pretty horrendous quality fuel.
Theoretically they should be adding anti waxing additives in the colder months, hence the whole thing about winter diesel giving crap MPG. Maybe Tesco don't do this. Or maybe it was stock from warmer months waxing up?

Riley Blue

20,915 posts

225 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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Thornaby said:
Believe what you want. He tells all of his customers to not fill up there. He doesnt own a petrol station so doesnt gain from it.

I'm assuming its blocked fuel filters. We had a lot of our work vans have this issue when filling up at Morrisons.
I'll believe my own evidence of using Tesco fuel extensively in my three cars ranging in age from 1963 to 2005 and with engines from 1.5 diesel and petrol up to 4.2 petrol. During the past ten years not one of the cars has experienced any fuel related problems.

Weirdhead

87 posts

104 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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dazwalsh said:
I run a citroen beringo van for work, and i couldnt care less what fuel went into it. Over winter it started cutting out on me when i was going up hills or accelerating quickly, until the point it wouldnt move unless i was ever so gently getting up to speed and any sort of incline and it would go again.

Anyways i called AA out to it and he immediately said it was due to cheap supermarket fuel gunging up the filter in cold weather. He showd me a photo of him curting open a filter and it was a milky sludge. Said it was his third of the day and numerous for the week. He mentioned tesco as having p retty horrendous quality fuel.
Would that be the same aa that told me a shoddy vectra I had wouldn’t start because the crank sensor was dead, even showed me the codes, and the starting problem wasn’t fixed until I repleaced the injector seals....

The same aa that when the clutch slave cylinder packed up on a Saab asked me when the clutch was changed last, I said I don’t know, I’ve had the car 3 years and haven’t changed it, to be told I should be changing the whole clutch assembly every two years....

Just because an aa man says something doesn’t make it true. Normally the opposite

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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alorotom said:
I don’t buy into this constant fuel snobbery
Happens with others things, Apple products, clothes manufactured in sweat shops etc. A brand is a powerful tool and people just feel more comfortable with a brand, that is human nature, it genuinely makes them feel better.