RE: VW Up GTI: PH Fleet
Discussion
tty drum brakes on this VW.When are people going to stop moaning about drum brakes at the rear, it being too small, it being too expensive, it not being fast enough, the way it looks, saying the Lupo was better etc?
Most of the time the comments are from people who haven't driven one and have no intention of buying one. If it was bigger, faster, more expensive and had discs at the rear, it would be a Polo GTI. If that's what you want, go and buy one of those. But a new one will cost you £20k+ and there's no manual option (yet).
It's a small city car you can get with five doors that handles well, goes plenty fast enough for what it is, sounds good, is well equipped, will have rock solid residuals and can be bought for c£14k.
If I can get a drive in one, all being well I'll be placing an order. Silver / black, five door, climate control, rear view camera and auto lights / wipers should be doable for less than £15k. Will do fine as a car for my short commute and as a bit of fun.
Most of the time the comments are from people who haven't driven one and have no intention of buying one. If it was bigger, faster, more expensive and had discs at the rear, it would be a Polo GTI. If that's what you want, go and buy one of those. But a new one will cost you £20k+ and there's no manual option (yet).
It's a small city car you can get with five doors that handles well, goes plenty fast enough for what it is, sounds good, is well equipped, will have rock solid residuals and can be bought for c£14k.
If I can get a drive in one, all being well I'll be placing an order. Silver / black, five door, climate control, rear view camera and auto lights / wipers should be doable for less than £15k. Will do fine as a car for my short commute and as a bit of fun.
Edited by Dolf Stoppard on Sunday 16th September 12:16
suffolk009 said:
mooseracer said:
What is wrong with drum rear brakes on a c1000kg hatch?
Drum brakes are only on the back. Same as my old Caterham.mooseracer said:
suffolk009 said:
mooseracer said:
What is wrong with drum rear brakes on a c1000kg hatch?
Drum brakes are only on the back. Same as my old Caterham.PooPoo said:
Surely this car shouldn't be added with any options, I mean climate, cruise and phone gubbins surely adds alot of weight which goes against the whole idea of this car, the mk1 didn't have any of that?
Climate control simply replaces air-conditioning, cruise is probably a software / switch change, and the only phone option is a cradle that probably weighs as much as a coat. People don't exactly think "I'll leave my coat at home - I don't want the extra weight slowing me down when I drive to the station". Edited by PooPoo on Sunday 16th September 12:11
Baldchap said:
Wonder just how much actual braking takes place at the rear on a car like this. My guess is that the shoes will last almost forever.
Rear discs are a fashion accessory on a lot of cars IMO. But posters like the chap above show why manufacturers make such unnecessary decisions.
I would normally say that rear disks normally produce a firmer, more progressive pedal feel.Rear discs are a fashion accessory on a lot of cars IMO. But posters like the chap above show why manufacturers make such unnecessary decisions.
But in most small cars, they're so damnably over-servo'd it now makes little difference.
Dolf Stoppard said:
When are people going to stop moaning about drum brakes at the rear, it being too small, it being too expensive, it not being fast enough, the way it looks, saying the Lupo was better etc?
Most of the time the comments are from people who haven't driven one and have no intention of buying one. If it was bigger, faster, more expensive and had discs at the rear, it would be a Polo GTI. If that's what you want, go and buy one of those. But a new one will cost you £20k+ and there's no manual option (yet).
It's a small city car you can get with five doors that handles well, goes plenty fast enough for what it is, sounds good, is well equipped, will have rock solid residuals and can be bought for c£14k.
If I can get a drive in one, all being well I'll be placing an order. Silver / black, five door, climate control, rear view camera and auto lights / wipers should be doable for less than £15k. Will do fine as a car for my short commute and as a bit of fun.
I have crap spacial awareness but surely a rear view camera is unnecessary on a car this size? I had a mk6 fiesta which was larger but had a similarly flat back to the Up and it was an absolute doddle to reverse park.Most of the time the comments are from people who haven't driven one and have no intention of buying one. If it was bigger, faster, more expensive and had discs at the rear, it would be a Polo GTI. If that's what you want, go and buy one of those. But a new one will cost you £20k+ and there's no manual option (yet).
It's a small city car you can get with five doors that handles well, goes plenty fast enough for what it is, sounds good, is well equipped, will have rock solid residuals and can be bought for c£14k.
If I can get a drive in one, all being well I'll be placing an order. Silver / black, five door, climate control, rear view camera and auto lights / wipers should be doable for less than £15k. Will do fine as a car for my short commute and as a bit of fun.
Edited by Dolf Stoppard on Sunday 16th September 12:16
Not having a dig, just might save you several hundred pounds!
Enjoyed this review by a fellow PH member – http://www.jackals-forge.com/lotus/UP/UPGTi.htm
Ordered mine at 0830 on the day the order book opened - already had it seven months or so. It's a hoot, yes the gear box is a bit iffy but the looks (in white, I wanted red but that would have taken months) are so aggressive that the family call it the AngryUp! and it's just plain fun. Highly recommended (and I too have tooled around in 911s, a Maser GT and most recently a 67 plate TT-RS that threatened to kill not just me but the innocents I would have taken with me such was the performance to (my) competence ratio). It's just silly fun without the license or life risk. And it fits in a station car parking space without a problem.
I'd be equally quick to order an R version, but I suspect the engine bay size is a limiting factor for a worthwhile engine.
I'd be equally quick to order an R version, but I suspect the engine bay size is a limiting factor for a worthwhile engine.
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