The 45k golf R

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w8pmc

3,345 posts

237 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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ashleyman said:
Course.

Wouldn't touch it tho, Stage 2 and in the ad all they say is:

APR ECU Stage 2 Upgrade with Racingline Air Box, carried out by QST at a cost of £1,673.00. This is removable with ease.

Stage 2 needs more than just a map and an airbox! I think it's at least £3k to do it properly.!!
Correct, although depending on if it's APR's hi or low torque & given it's the newer & stronger DSG, it could happily survive without much more than just the intake, although downpipes & an Intercooler are advised. Closer to £5k for Stage 2 if doing it properly.

Big GT

1,798 posts

91 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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cheesesliceking said:
What kind of halfwit would pay 45k for a VW??
Pop down to your local Porsche dealership and you'll see

Wills2

22,668 posts

174 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Bramley are expensive but they sell cars so clearly have a customer base that is willing to pay, nice part of the world as well so plenty of money locally.


ToothbrushMan

1,770 posts

124 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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who palms a car off after 3000 miles ? (if those 3000 miles are accurate).

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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ToothbrushMan said:
who palms a car off after 3000 miles ? (if those 3000 miles are accurate).
Somebody who realises that they're driving round in an utter scrote magnet, and quite likes their sleep...?

ashleyman

6,962 posts

98 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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w8pmc said:
ashleyman said:
Course.

Wouldn't touch it tho, Stage 2 and in the ad all they say is:

APR ECU Stage 2 Upgrade with Racingline Air Box, carried out by QST at a cost of £1,673.00. This is removable with ease.

Stage 2 needs more than just a map and an airbox! I think it's at least £3k to do it properly.!!
Correct, although depending on if it's APR's hi or low torque & given it's the newer & stronger DSG, it could happily survive without much more than just the intake, although downpipes & an Intercooler are advised. Closer to £5k for Stage 2 if doing it properly.
It must be on low or medium then as an intake is required for high output tune.

TooMany2cvs said:
ashleyman said:
Wouldn't touch it tho, Stage 2 and in the ad all they say is:

APR ECU Stage 2 Upgrade with Racingline Air Box, carried out by QST at a cost of £1,673.00. This is removable with ease.

Stage 2 needs more than just a map and an airbox! I think it's at least £3k to do it properly.!!
"Stage" means what they want it to mean.

If their "stage 1" is just a remap, then "stage 2" could well be remap + airbox, with "stage 3" being remap + airbox + exhaust.
Don't know if you own one or are just spouting your usual nonsense not but on Golf R's the stages are quite clearly defined, especially with APR (the people who made the map for the car).

Stage 1 - Map with no engine hardware.

Stage 2 - There are 3 different tunes, low, medium and high torque.
Low and medium require at least an intake and high torque requires an intake and an intercooler.

A stage 1 map is £750, an APR TCU remap is £650 and R600 is £350. That's not included the extra costs for the stage 2 map and the extra cost as you need to retune the TCU. Don't see how what they're claiming is possible unless QST gave them a huge discount or they didn't do the original Stage 1 TCU tune - possible as it's not required for Stage 1.

Anyway, I'm sure the car will go to a nice home.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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ashleyman said:
Stage 2 needs more than just a map and an airbox! I think it's at least £3k to do it properly.!!
ashleyman said:
Stage 2 - There are 3 different tunes, low, medium and high torque.
Low and medium require at least an intake
There y'go, then. Stage 2 = map + airbox/intake.

Fun Bus

17,911 posts

217 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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£53,620 is the highest priced one I can get on the VW configurator.

NordicCrankShaft

1,721 posts

114 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Also whilst I think it's mental that somebody will drop that amount of money on a golf, all you people saying it's a 300bhp golf blah blah blah, isn't stage 2 400bhp?

ghost83

5,475 posts

189 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Yep 400bhp but then you might as well buy a bog standard rs3

PGNSagaris

2,926 posts

165 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Big GT said:
cheesesliceking said:
What kind of halfwit would pay 45k for a VW??
Pop down to your local Porsche dealership and you'll see
Clown

cerb4.5lee

30,186 posts

179 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Big GT said:
cheesesliceking said:
What kind of halfwit would pay 45k for a VW??
Pop down to your local Porsche dealership and you'll see
hehe

This made me smile in fairness.

sjabrown

1,910 posts

159 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Each to their own and all that, but £45k for a Golf is not something I'd ever consider.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

166 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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rayyan171 said:
A N55 (more reliable) engined 335i can be found for £9-11k, in Coupe form with the DCT or in the facelifted Saloon. We bought our Audi A6 3.0T at around £10k. Both have 5 seats, good boot space and handle well. Our Audi is very well equipped, the only missing technology from it is some automation. Only problem has been the thermostat on the Audi. It really isn't that difficult to find a 300hp car for £10k.

I am also going to say that the Golf R itself is a suitable car, I would be looking at a 4 year old example, and not a new model, as the 7.5 really has some minor differences. Same goes for the M135i/M140i, there are very decent models at £15k. If they reach £10k they will be on the list after the Audi, but we are still enjoying that right now driving
Please don't compare new cars to old cars. If you are going to compare cars either compare new cars or old cars

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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rayyan171 said:
...but for £45k I don't want cheap interior plastics that is expected of a VAG product (still in 2018!!!).
Has anyone had the misfortune to sit in one of the new VW T-Roc's yet?

Just simply awful.

Horrible, cheap, thin, hard, scratchy rattly plastic absolutely everywhere on everything inside.

The fabrics and seats are all made out of terrible thin cloth and cheap foam.

They haven't even bothered to paint under the boot carpet.

The whole car utterly reeks of penny pinching and cost cutting.

MrBarry123

6,025 posts

120 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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cerb4.5lee said:
hehe

This made me smile in fairness.
And me.

hehe

996TT02

3,308 posts

139 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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cerb4.5lee said:
Big GT said:
cheesesliceking said:
What kind of halfwit would pay 45k for a VW??
Pop down to your local Porsche dealership and you'll see
hehe

This made me smile in fairness.
Not precious at all, but Porsche don't make anything equivalent to a Golf. Cheapest must be a Boxster, possibly without wheels (because that's how Porsche get you to spend more money like it or not) from £45k.

A £50k Golf is still a VW Golf, basically a jazzed up version of the very definition of dullmobile, what your gran might choose to drive to bingo sessions, and yes you'd need to be a halfwit to think that it's anywhere near the same "value" as even an entry level Boxster.

https://www.porsche.com/uk/models/718/718-boxster-...

rayyan171

1,294 posts

92 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Willy Nilly said:
rayyan171 said:
A N55 (more reliable) engined 335i can be found for £9-11k, in Coupe form with the DCT or in the facelifted Saloon. We bought our Audi A6 3.0T at around £10k. Both have 5 seats, good boot space and handle well. Our Audi is very well equipped, the only missing technology from it is some automation. Only problem has been the thermostat on the Audi. It really isn't that difficult to find a 300hp car for £10k.

I am also going to say that the Golf R itself is a suitable car, I would be looking at a 4 year old example, and not a new model, as the 7.5 really has some minor differences. Same goes for the M135i/M140i, there are very decent models at £15k. If they reach £10k they will be on the list after the Audi, but we are still enjoying that right now driving
Please don't compare new cars to old cars. If you are going to compare cars either compare new cars or old cars
Fair enough, but the last post was looking at early 2000's performance cars for 10K.

Comparing new cars, I would rather have a well specced 340i, with the MPPK. I definitely would be able to get a pre-reg, or a nearly new, for around £45k.

rayyan171

1,294 posts

92 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Lord Marylebone said:
rayyan171 said:
...but for £45k I don't want cheap interior plastics that is expected of a VAG product (still in 2018!!!).
Has anyone had the misfortune to sit in one of the new VW T-Roc's yet?

Just simply awful.

Horrible, cheap, thin, hard, scratchy rattly plastic absolutely everywhere on everything inside.

The fabrics and seats are all made out of terrible thin cloth and cheap foam.

They haven't even bothered to paint under the boot carpet.

The whole car utterly reeks of penny pinching and cost cutting.
The Q2 it is based off isn't much better. Lease-specs aren't the best thing to sit in considering it is a £20k car new. We did have one as a courtesy car, but it was well specced with Laser lights and the Vegas Yellow paint, but that still had manual seats and didn't even have the Audi DIS. Surprised at the way it is going. Will admit that Audi are doing what BMW are doing and putting MMI in just about everything they make now.

ericmcn

1,999 posts

96 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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anyone whould would buy that over say this would need a lobotomy. The obsession with Golfs is a bit sad

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...