Peugeot 3008 "Car of the Year"?!

[MC Bodge]

Nealio said:

An Astra hire car I had recently had that steering resist lane departure thing on it, first time I've ever encountered it, made my hoop clench the first time that kicked in on the motorway and I wasn't expecting it.

Immediately got the passenger to find the button and turn it off.

Would anybody ask for it? Would anybody think that it is actually a good idea?

Is it just a way to shoe-horn in some of the automated driving technology that has been developed recently?

[kuro]

I don't like SUV's but if I was to buy one I would choose one of these based on the styling alone. From what I've seen they seem to get pretty good reviews.

[ManOpener]

Willy Nilly said:

ManOpener said:

I've got it's Vauxhall brother (Grandland x) as a hire car whilst they fish bits of the filter out of the oil system of my M140i.
It's got less than 70 miles on the clock and is absolute wk.
The completely shagged Mitsubishi ASX I had in Spain was infinitely nicer to drive.

It might be absolute wk, but at least it works, which is more than you BMW can boast.

Given it's done sixty-eight fking miles, I should bloody well hope it does. Given how frequently the Telegraph's long term 3008 broke, I can't say that I'd be particularly hopefully of it reaching five figures without throwing it's toys out of the pram.

Edited by ManOpener on Thursday 20th September 23:17

[MC Bodge]

kuro said:

I don't like SUV's but if I was to buy one I would choose one of these based on the styling alone. From what I've seen they seem to get pretty good reviews.

Well, you've read my short review.

Does it really look good?

Oh yes, and it also has a few annoying audible warnings. As someone pointed out, the noises are a bit "camp"

[kuro]

MC Bodge said:

kuro said:

I don't like SUV's but if I was to buy one I would choose one of these based on the styling alone. From what I've seen they seem to get pretty good reviews.

Well, you've read my short review.

Does it really look good?

Oh yes, and it also has a few annoying audible warnings. As someone pointed out, the noises are a bit "camp"

Compared to most rivals, yes.

[Francis85]

How can be a car of the year if the car is far from being the best and it isn't even from that year?

"Fiat Trento (54hp, tons of plastic inside and awful handling), Car of the (next) Year not for sale yet".
Ridiculous tag

[Mr Tidy]

MC Bodge said:

Is it an SUV, a Crossover or a tall hatchback?

No, it's trying to create a new niche called POS!

After all that would describe most previous winners!

Edited by Mr Tidy on Friday 21st September 01:37

[WonkeyDonkey]

ManOpener said:

Given it's done sixty-eight fking miles, I should bloody well hope it does. Given how frequently the Telegraph's long term 3008 broke, I can't say that I'd be particularly hopefully of it reaching five figures without throwing it's toys out of the pram.

Edited by ManOpener on Thursday 20th September 23:17

Someone's a bit touchy.

Guess German quality and French quality aren't as far apart as marketing suggests.

I don't mind the 3008. Its something differenf to the sea of German beige on the roads.

Then again I drive a cactus, so I'm a bit partial finding attractiveness in what most perceive as ugly ha.

Edited by WonkeyDonkey on Friday 21st September 10:47

[heisthegaffer]

imagineifyeswill said:

The Fiat Uno, Renault 14 and Talbot Horizon are just three example of Car of the Year back in there day, all spectacular pieces of crap.

The Uno wasn't if you remember what other cars were like then. Metro, Fiesta for instance? Why did all the reviews rave about them if they were so bad?

[wal 45]

Had a few as hire cars both petrol and diesel, no real complaints to be honest after probably doing a thousand or so miles in various ones. I don't like the small Austin Allegro type steering wheel they have which doesn't suit the car at all, the rest of it including the handling was pretty good though.

The 3 cylinder petrol engine really doesn't suit it (I normally like these small turbo petrol engines) and feels woefully underpowered for longer drives, the diesel though is pretty good. Put it this way it's not a 306 XSI but I don't get that sinking feeling when I get the keys to one, certainly not a POS.

[Justin S]

LuS1fer said:

The 2018 winner is the Volvo XC40 (yawn)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/gallery/every-eur...

I take it you have been in one and driven it to give you that tired feel about it ?. Its actually pretty good as a car and have considered one to replace our XC60. Not everyone needs a trillion horsepower in a car and an SUV makes sense where the road surface around here is based on the road system in Beirut , so elastic band tyres are pointless .If I want a drivers car , I go out in my Westfield. Otherwise the 'dreaded anti pistonheads SUV' wafts me over the war zoned roads.
On another note a work colleague had a 3008 on hire for a few months and liked it. It looked different but he has just ordered a Kia hybrid thing , so these kind of cars obviously have some appeal to the 'average joe' , regardless on who gives it car of the year.

[AC43]

MC Bodge said:

I drove a rental 3008 GT-Line diesel recently.

The steering was feel-less through its tiny, square wheel.

The brakes were ridiculously over-sensitive

The engine wasn't responsive, was slow off boost and turbo lag was signficant.

The "driver aids" were annoying gimmicks:

Nothing about this car was desirable to me whatsoever. Maybe I'm out of touch?

I had a 2007 as a hire car at Easter. I had to drive it over the Beallach several times and it was awful. Utterly st over-assisted steering and a really weird driving position. If I raised the seat I could see over the cliff-like scuttle but my head would bob about all over the place. If I lowered it to a normal position I just couldn't figure out where the corners and wheels were. Which is isn't much fun on a mountain pass in the snow. If it had been a normal-height hatchback it would have been a bit better but would still have had that awful steering. I've been over the Beallach loads of times in tons of cars and this car was by far and away the worst way to do it.

MC Bodge said:

Ps. It was very, very similar to the Fiat 500X I had on holiday, although that possibly handled better, but had terrible outward visibility of the extremities(and no cameras!).

I had one of them in August. Much preferred the steering, brakes, suspension, engine (although it made a right racket). In fact I actually looked forward to driving it. Couldn't see out the back, though, or figure out where the rear three quarters were.

Why do people insist on cars on stilts?

Beats me.

[greenarrow]

WonkeyDonkey said:

ManOpener said:

Given it's done sixty-eight fking miles, I should bloody well hope it does. Given how frequently the Telegraph's long term 3008 broke, I can't say that I'd be particularly hopefully of it reaching five figures without throwing it's toys out of the pram.

Edited by ManOpener on Thursday 20th September 23:17

Someone's a bit touchy.

Guess German quality and French quality aren't as far apart as marketing suggests.

I don't mind the 3008. Its something to then sea of German beige on the roads.

Then again I drive a cactus, so I'm a bit partial finding attractiveness in what most perceive as ugly ha.

He's bound to be touchy. His very expensive BMW (presumably less than one year old) is off the road being repaired and he has to suffer a bloody Vauxhall. The shame of it!!!

Wasn't it the 3008 that won Auto Express Driver Power car of the year this year? The owners clearly like them.

Mind you I'm another one who tends to like cars that others find offensive...

[MC Bodge]

AC43 said:

MC Bodge said:

I drove a rental 3008 GT-Line diesel recently.

The steering was feel-less through its tiny, square wheel.

The brakes were ridiculously over-sensitive

The engine wasn't responsive, was slow off boost and turbo lag was signficant.

The "driver aids" were annoying gimmicks:

Nothing about this car was desirable to me whatsoever. Maybe I'm out of touch?

I had a 2007 as a hire car at Easter. I had to drive it over the Beallach several times and it was awful. Utterly st over-assisted steering and a really weird driving position. If I raised the seat I could see over the cliff-like scuttle but my head would bob about all over the place. If I lowered it to a normal position I just couldn't figure out where the corners and wheels were. Which is isn't much fun on a mountain pass in the snow. If it had been a normal-height hatchback it would have been a bit better but would still have had that awful steering. I've been over the Beallach loads of times in tons of cars and this car was by far and away the worst way to do it.

MC Bodge said:

Ps. It was very, very similar to the Fiat 500X I had on holiday, although that possibly handled better, but had terrible outward visibility of the extremities(and no cameras!).

I had one of them in August. Much preferred the steering, brakes, suspension, engine (although it made a right racket). In fact I actually looked forward to driving it. Couldn't see out the back, though, or figure out where the rear three quarters were.

Why do people insist on cars on stilts?

Beats me.

To be fair, the 500x was quite a good handler when driven hard on mountain roads. It came alive a bit. It was, however, not good carting the family around towns in. Which seems a bit counter-intuitive.

[ManOpener]

greenarrow said:

He's bound to be touchy. His very expensive BMW (presumably less than one year old) is off the road being repaired and he has to suffer a bloody Vauxhall. The shame of it!!!

Nothing to do with "shame", I don't have any hatred, rational or irrational, for a particular marque. I'd have been much happier with just about and small hatchback (Corsa included), or, if they insisted on giving me and SUV of some kind, even something like a Dacia Duster. My criticism doesn't arise from the fact it's a Vauxhall, or because it's a less premium marque than my normal car, they're entirely down to it being utter turd to drive. Which might be forgivable if it was spacious, or comfortable, or reasonably well equipped, but it was none of these either.