RE: 2019 BMW M2 CS spied testing
Discussion
skylarking808 said:
To me this is what a modern M3 should be. Bet that chassis will do the job and damn good to take on a track like the original E30. The 1M looks better though, but style is one thing BMW seem to be loosing.
I'll probably get in trouble for this, but in my parallel universe, they'd make a modern M3 with less power, less weight, less grip and more feel. I'm sure the M2 CS will be great on a track. But on the road -- super fast, yes. But fun? Take the setup of this CS but with a cheaper and lighter 4 pot. Target around 200 bhp/ton but in something ideally weighing ~ 300 kg less than the >1.6 tons the M2s have piled on. And while I'm dreaming, why not in the more practical shape of the 1er hatch?
CooperS said:
Front looks ok to me, its the rear thats bland and the interior which is showing its age compared to the new gen of BMW's
The interior of the M850i isn't THAT different to say, the 2002 745i! BMW interiors haven't changed that much (for better or worse) compared to Audi, Porsche, Range Rover, and Mercedes for example
Hellbound said:
Good news. Hope this pushes M2 and even M2 Competition prices down ??
Yes but prices have been holding up if not slightly firming up over the past 2 months sadly for me. Which is normally what happens when there is a noise around a model, like there was with the Competition and now this... The promised £30k M2 at Xmas is not looking likely now...rngDeadeye said:
Quite obviously the spoiler it the M3cs spoiler covered with white tape.
Hopefully the carbon roof is covered up in the same way.
It's clear from the pictures that the roof, bonnet, side skirts, front splitter and boot are all camouflaged with white tape. As I mentioned earlier these parts look identical to the M-performance parts that are available on the M2 Competition.Hopefully the carbon roof is covered up in the same way.
I don’t know why everybody keeps referring to the E46 M3 CSL’s 110kg’s weight loss.
It was mentioned in the M4 GTS’s spotted comments too and I’m surprised people still expect that from a modern M car, including journalists.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Modern M cars all come with the CF roofs and those plastic wings and lightened everything from the jump, there isn’t much left for them to do. Someone will say take out all the safety stuff and electric seats and what not but that isn’t viable for BMW as nobody will buy them or they’ll fail crash tests.
Would everybody feel better if BMW used heavier materials for the next M3 and save all the lightweight stuff for the ‘track’ version so everybody can marvel at the 100kg weight saving, because I’m sure people will moan and say ‘they only do that to charge more for the proper model, why don’t they use those lightweight materials in the basic car??’
Rant over
It was mentioned in the M4 GTS’s spotted comments too and I’m surprised people still expect that from a modern M car, including journalists.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Modern M cars all come with the CF roofs and those plastic wings and lightened everything from the jump, there isn’t much left for them to do. Someone will say take out all the safety stuff and electric seats and what not but that isn’t viable for BMW as nobody will buy them or they’ll fail crash tests.
Would everybody feel better if BMW used heavier materials for the next M3 and save all the lightweight stuff for the ‘track’ version so everybody can marvel at the 100kg weight saving, because I’m sure people will moan and say ‘they only do that to charge more for the proper model, why don’t they use those lightweight materials in the basic car??’
Rant over
Chestrockwell said:
I don’t know why everybody keeps referring to the E46 M3 CSL’s 110kg’s weight loss.
It was mentioned in the M4 GTS’s spotted comments too and I’m surprised people still expect that from a modern M car, including journalists.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Modern M cars all come with the CF roofs and those plastic wings and lightened everything from the jump, there isn’t much left for them to do. Someone will say take out all the safety stuff and electric seats and what not but that isn’t viable for BMW as nobody will buy them or they’ll fail crash tests.
Would everybody feel better if BMW used heavier materials for the next M3 and save all the lightweight stuff for the ‘track’ version so everybody can marvel at the 100kg weight saving, because I’m sure people will moan and say ‘they only do that to charge more for the proper model, why don’t they use those lightweight materials in the basic car??’
Rant over
I'm not convinced that the M2 comes with a CF roof and at 1625Kg, there's plenty of reasons why a little diet would do it some good.It was mentioned in the M4 GTS’s spotted comments too and I’m surprised people still expect that from a modern M car, including journalists.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Modern M cars all come with the CF roofs and those plastic wings and lightened everything from the jump, there isn’t much left for them to do. Someone will say take out all the safety stuff and electric seats and what not but that isn’t viable for BMW as nobody will buy them or they’ll fail crash tests.
Would everybody feel better if BMW used heavier materials for the next M3 and save all the lightweight stuff for the ‘track’ version so everybody can marvel at the 100kg weight saving, because I’m sure people will moan and say ‘they only do that to charge more for the proper model, why don’t they use those lightweight materials in the basic car??’
Rant over
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