RE: Lanzante to offer F1-engined Porsche 911s

[Evolved]

ReaperCushions said:

At least 11 I think, just a guess.

[Olivera]

Are these really original engines and turbos? If so I'd expect this engine to be really dreadful for road driving, probably making sub supermini power for the first 5000 rpm.

[kainedog]

RemarkLima said:

A friend of my old man used to have a megatron engine (BMW 1.5 turbo from the same era) just sat out in his workshop... Crated up, but just sat there.

Not sure why even, but seems that there's a fair few of this era of engines knocking around if you know where to look.

Sounds nuts tho'... Laaaaaaaaaaaaag... Boooooooooost!

Megatron engine , how cool is that

[ZX10R NIN]

Sound like it's going to be truly special.

[anonymous-user]

bloomen said:

I approve of the increasingly bonkers quest for 'special' restomods.

Absolutely.

[samoht]

So crazy, you think it's going to be a wind-up, but apparently not. An amusing classic equivalent to Merc's AMG One!

[skylarking808]

Just need lots of money to buy one, but rather large balls to drive one in anger.

Sound a whole heap of fun. Who does not want an F1 road car rocket that looks like a 911?

[TwinExit]

That’s an interesting concept, for those who are not interested in paltry 300bhp GDI ‘drivers’ cars or electric hybrid CGI Marvel comic mobiles.

Fill it up with C16 or toluene rich fuel, 1000+ hp and 10k rpms in a cocaine era 911 / 930, no modern supercar can compete with that.

[ChemicalChaos]

Presumably aimed at those drivers for whom the 450bhp Yellowbird was just a bit dull

[belleair302]

I have seen Mansour Ojjeh's 930 TAG Porsche in the old McLaren Genesis Park facility back in 2000. Beautiful bespoke interior and the most amazing engine back then. Cannot wait to see what Lanzante come up with when finished. Wow.

[0a]

Stupid, pointless, expensive.

And wonderful.

[Glasgowrob]

utterly fantastic to see something like this being put together

just hope they get used on the road rather than left gathering dust in a collection somewhere.

[rtz62]

Just hope the owner of aforementioned 930 doesn’t have any engine issues, as I can’t imagine the conversation
‘Er, I need a new sprot-dibbler for the reverse-threaded wing-wang please’
‘Of course Sir, let me take a look at the microfiche.......yeeessss here we are. That will cost you....let’s just call it a kidney, shall we?’

Have to say though, brilliant sounding thing, and much more preferable to me than a Singer
Btw, it may be my memory but in-period, didn’t the GP teams turn the wick up to provide that circa 1000bhp figure but the engines grenaded after a couple of laps?

[wowman]

I love that project - outright bonkers. Well done, Lanzante! :-)

btw, German magazine "auto, motor und sport" phantasized about a mid-engine 944 fitted with a TAG engine in the 1980s. I recall the article with an x-ray drawing. To my knowledge, nothing came out of it back then.

[el romeral]

11 used 911 turbo engines will be appearing on e bay soon

[PAUL500]

I do recall a few old TAG blocks and cam covers appearing on ebay a few years ago, so some things have escaped Mclaren in the past, having seen pics of their storage facilities, Ron was a bit of a hoarder, I imagine the engines and spares are all stacked neatly, covered in grease paper.

I imagine that engine was at Cosworths for them to look at producing slightly higher compression ratio, road friendly pistons.

Edited by PAUL500 on Thursday 11th October 09:47

[seefarr]

Gameface said:

10k rev counter...

Not to mention the 3 bar boost gauge! Original ones only read to 1 bar so that is a new addition too.

Don't forget that turbo technology has come on in leaps and bounds since then. For the price they'll be charging you can bet they'll be using the fanciest twin-scroll roller-bearing variable-geometry electro-boosted turbos they can buy so it will be a lot better to drive than an 80's F1 car. Still exciting though....

[roy928tt]

There is brief, one line mention of the TAG 911 in John Barnard's biography. I'd imagine the car was retained by Mansour Ojjeh as he had funded the TAG engine program. Porsche reported at the time that the car drove fine.

I can't help but think it is a tragic waste of an epic race engine...

I'll stick with my twin turbo Mazda KL

[Nick Young]

rtz62 said:

Btw, it may be my memory but in-period, didn’t the GP teams turn the wick up to provide that circa 1000bhp figure but the engines grenaded after a couple of laps?

Yes. I vaguely remember Derek Warwick saying at a FOTA fan forum a few years back that they welded up the dump valves I think it was, which meant they had massive boost pressure, leading to lots of horsepower, lots of heat, and the engines would literally melt after a couple of laps. Insane times.

[thegreenhell]

ralphrj said:

I wonder if this explains the odd entry in the most recent accounts of McLaren Racing Limited (the F1 team).

Note 21 to the accounts on related party transactions discloses that in 2017 McLaren purchased £1,251,000 of goods or services from Cosworth Limited.

There is no explanation of why Cosworth was considered a related party but as no McLaren Group company owns a stake in Cosworth I can only assume that either one of the shareholders of McLaren owns some of Cosworth or there is a common Director.

Zak Brown sits on the board of directors of Cosworth.