RE: Toyota Supra: Spotted
Discussion
If you compare the price of a standard Supra with other cars, maybe a Tommi Mak, the prices are not too dissimilar. But, the question I would ask is, what is the supply and demand like for each?
By that, I mean, the number produced of the Supra, admittedly a competent car, is quite high, compared to the Tommi Mak. Let's not mention the 22B.
Personally, I think this is way overpriced.
By that, I mean, the number produced of the Supra, admittedly a competent car, is quite high, compared to the Tommi Mak. Let's not mention the 22B.
Personally, I think this is way overpriced.
Dr G said:
Zero surprise that the best cars of this generation are appreciating now; the comments on this thread are probably not at all dissimilar to what a generation once said about Minis, then about MK2 Escorts, then E30 BMWs... I would however want £50 off that asking price to allow me to bin the revolting blue ebay dash LEDs 
I've no idea what these cars actually change hands for but if that figure is at least reasonably representative it could make for a pretty sound ownership proposition. It'll lose nothing in purchase price (compared to a used Cayman or TTS, for example) and probably be cheaper to maintain.
Absolutely correct about the appreciating 80s and 90s cars and the boat has sailed for people like me on this gen of car.I've no idea what these cars actually change hands for but if that figure is at least reasonably representative it could make for a pretty sound ownership proposition. It'll lose nothing in purchase price (compared to a used Cayman or TTS, for example) and probably be cheaper to maintain.
Its why I keep telling people with a bit of spare cash for a toy to look at the early 2000s stuff instead. Early Nissan 350zs, Focus RS Mk1s, E60 M5s, Subaru Impreza Turbo RB5s.... are all going to go the same way as the E30s, Supras etc..
I remember for years you could buy UK spec Supras for around £7-8K..always thought they were cheap for what they offered. Not any more!
"Proof comes with the full respray, GTechniq ceramic coating and underbody protection work done in Britain. It seems the owner wanted this Supra to look its best - and the pictures suggest it now does. Which begs the question, why does the owner want to sell?"
hmmm... lets hope that the underbody protection etc hasn't been done cheap to cover horrible rust etc and for a quick re-sale at a profit...
hmmm... lets hope that the underbody protection etc hasn't been done cheap to cover horrible rust etc and for a quick re-sale at a profit...
greenarrow said:
Dr G said:
Zero surprise that the best cars of this generation are appreciating now; the comments on this thread are probably not at all dissimilar to what a generation once said about Minis, then about MK2 Escorts, then E30 BMWs... I would however want £50 off that asking price to allow me to bin the revolting blue ebay dash LEDs
I've no idea what these cars actually change hands for but if that figure is at least reasonably representative it could make for a pretty sound ownership proposition. It'll lose nothing in purchase price (compared to a used Cayman or TTS, for example) and probably be cheaper to maintain.
Absolutely correct about the appreciating 80s and 90s cars and the boat has sailed for people like me on this gen of car.I've no idea what these cars actually change hands for but if that figure is at least reasonably representative it could make for a pretty sound ownership proposition. It'll lose nothing in purchase price (compared to a used Cayman or TTS, for example) and probably be cheaper to maintain.
Its why I keep telling people with a bit of spare cash for a toy to look at the early 2000s stuff instead. Early Nissan 350zs, Focus RS Mk1s, E60 M5s, Subaru Impreza Turbo RB5s.... are all going to go the same way as the E30s, Supras etc..
I remember for years you could buy UK spec Supras for around £7-8K..always thought they were cheap for what they offered. Not any more!
Be interesting to see what happens with 350Zs, much higher numbers. They do seem to have hit a level, whether they go up much will be interesting to see.
Looked at a Supra when I sold my Z, but just wanted something a bit more modern to live with day to day. Definitely still on the list, although as I don't mind some 'chintzy' wheels I should be able to save myself a few pennies.
hondansx said:
Also why would anyone want leather in an old Japanese car! The retro patterned cloth is far cooler.
I always remember reading a review of the UK spec Twin Turbo model back in 1993 in Performance Car magazine, and it was manual and it had black leather. That's been the model I've lusted after ever since. 
I'd forgotten what an OEM standard Supra looked like, it still pretty good to my eyes.
The seats are retro cool and perfectly in period but I couldn't stand to look at them while climbing aboard, it would almost ruin the ownership experience for me.
It sure is a lovely base car to Mod the nuts off.
The seats are retro cool and perfectly in period but I couldn't stand to look at them while climbing aboard, it would almost ruin the ownership experience for me.
It sure is a lovely base car to Mod the nuts off.
These mkivs and their Japanese performance contemporaries are seeing a spike in value for the same reason many 'genres' (for lack of a better word) do- the generation who grew up idolising them can now afford to buy them.
I'm sure the 25-year-old U.S. import thing is also a factor ofcourse...
I owned 2 mkiv Supras back in the 00s, one of which had the 6-speed Getrag box. Most people have a car they should have 'held on' to- that was mine.
As naff as those seats are, someone out there (probably in I.T. with a newish, diesel BMW as a daily driver) is looking at them and doing man maths to see how much extra work they can take on to afford this car without the wife leaving them. I don't blame them.
These Japanese icons get into my blood in the same way (I imagine) mk2 Escorts and Sierra Cosworths do with guys in their 40s. If your buying something like this over a far more modern Porsche for example, then you are a true enthusiast.
I'm sure the 25-year-old U.S. import thing is also a factor ofcourse...
I owned 2 mkiv Supras back in the 00s, one of which had the 6-speed Getrag box. Most people have a car they should have 'held on' to- that was mine.
As naff as those seats are, someone out there (probably in I.T. with a newish, diesel BMW as a daily driver) is looking at them and doing man maths to see how much extra work they can take on to afford this car without the wife leaving them. I don't blame them.
These Japanese icons get into my blood in the same way (I imagine) mk2 Escorts and Sierra Cosworths do with guys in their 40s. If your buying something like this over a far more modern Porsche for example, then you are a true enthusiast.
daveofedinburgh said:
These mkivs and their Japanese performance contemporaries are seeing a spike in value for the same reason many 'genres' (for lack of a better word) do- the generation who grew up idolising them can now afford to buy them.
I'm sure the 25-year-old U.S. import thing is also a factor ofcourse...
I owned 2 mkiv Supras back in the 00s, one of which had the 6-speed Getrag box. Most people have a car they should have 'held on' to- that was mine.
As naff as those seats are, someone out there (probably in I.T. with a newish, diesel BMW as a daily driver) is looking at them and doing man maths to see how much extra work they can take on to afford this car without the wife leaving them. I don't blame them.
These Japanese icons get into my blood in the same way (I imagine) mk2 Escorts and Sierra Cosworths do with guys in their 40s. If your buying something like this over a far more modern Porsche for example, then you are a true enthusiast.
That era of Supra was fantastic - I wish I had bought one when they were affordable! I'm sure the 25-year-old U.S. import thing is also a factor ofcourse...
I owned 2 mkiv Supras back in the 00s, one of which had the 6-speed Getrag box. Most people have a car they should have 'held on' to- that was mine.
As naff as those seats are, someone out there (probably in I.T. with a newish, diesel BMW as a daily driver) is looking at them and doing man maths to see how much extra work they can take on to afford this car without the wife leaving them. I don't blame them.
These Japanese icons get into my blood in the same way (I imagine) mk2 Escorts and Sierra Cosworths do with guys in their 40s. If your buying something like this over a far more modern Porsche for example, then you are a true enthusiast.
But then I also wish I hadn't sold my MK2 Escort RS2000 for about £2,500 in 1984!
Would I pay that sort of money for a Supra now - probably not.
Still it's great that there are some around.
tunning cars
hondansx said:
Why are they 'overpriced'? Did they make loads of them?
Also why would anyone want leather in an old Japanese car! The retro patterned cloth is far cooler.
I think every old car is overpriced on here - translates as " I don't want/like them - I don't understand a differing view " Also why would anyone want leather in an old Japanese car! The retro patterned cloth is far cooler.
I remember a lot of the components used on the TT seemed to be industrial-grade and pretty over-specced on the standard car
daveofedinburgh said:
These mkivs and their Japanese performance contemporaries are seeing a spike in value for the same reason many 'genres' (for lack of a better word) do- the generation who grew up idolising them can now afford to buy them.
I'm sure the 25-year-old U.S. import thing is also a factor ofcourse...
I owned 2 mkiv Supras back in the 00s, one of which had the 6-speed Getrag box. Most people have a car they should have 'held on' to- that was mine.
These Japanese icons get into my blood in the same way (I imagine) mk2 Escorts and Sierra Cosworths do with guys in their 40s. If your buying something like this over a far more modern Porsche for example, then you are a true enthusiast.
Agree with all that. As a kid if the 80s, JDM is more what I’m after than say a 993. I’d pay up for the former, not for the latter and would rather go for a contemporary Porsche instead. Don’t claim to “be right” by any mean, just expressing a preference.I'm sure the 25-year-old U.S. import thing is also a factor ofcourse...
I owned 2 mkiv Supras back in the 00s, one of which had the 6-speed Getrag box. Most people have a car they should have 'held on' to- that was mine.
These Japanese icons get into my blood in the same way (I imagine) mk2 Escorts and Sierra Cosworths do with guys in their 40s. If your buying something like this over a far more modern Porsche for example, then you are a true enthusiast.
£35,000 is also not all that bad (I expected a lot more) compared to R34s that you would struggle to find below £50,000, and is probably the most comparable car/engine.
Lovely car, decent price if it’s a 4.5B grade.
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