RE: Top Gear TV gains McGuinness and Flintoff
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Gameface said:
I don't think their choice of Ferraris bodes well for their petrolhead credentials.
How so? I think anyone who buys any form of Ferrari must be into cars to a certain extent. I personally wouldn't want a stripped out racer for the road, I'd like a bit of comfort. I also like a RR Phantom....doesn't stop me being a petrolhead because it's not a full on supercar though Edited by Gameface on Monday 22 October 13:18
Chestrockwell said:
I mean of course, time is what it is and he does a family but I can’t help but think, somewhere along the line, he missed a trick in the YouTube game, his content was brilliant and drew millions of views, what went wrong
Harris didn't create content for 12 year olds. He didn't open a T-Shirt/Baseball cap store. He didn't do any of the daily VLOG crap. He didn't do clickbait titles with "Just purchased my new Lambo!!11" content.He kept his videos technical, thorough and to the layman...boring.
Sadly, appeal for properly Car journalism is pretty niche.
Just look at Catchpole's stuff on Carfection. Incredible videos, but it will never appeal as broadly on YouTube as "HIII GUYZ IM SCHMEEE", because the average viewer on that platform is a child.
In fairness how many of the generation they are targeting will even tune in? Most will be on youtube!
There just seems a reasonable variety of those on youtube hoovies garage I have began watching and Harry's garage mixed in with the odd bit of Doug Demuro (I can see how he can grate).
Even I as part of the generation that would watch it possibly on TV, feel just like watching a video on Youtube...
If the TV is likely to have something on it is more likely to be a reality TV show not for me, and if it is it will be something like Hunted or GBBO which i rarely tune in "live" for as it is.
As said above take it outside and kill it now. Although I would find it amusing to do take me out with cars, which would just show how low it has gone. No wonder Reid wanted out of the main show, Harris WTF are you playing at get off the sinking ship.
There just seems a reasonable variety of those on youtube hoovies garage I have began watching and Harry's garage mixed in with the odd bit of Doug Demuro (I can see how he can grate).
Even I as part of the generation that would watch it possibly on TV, feel just like watching a video on Youtube...
If the TV is likely to have something on it is more likely to be a reality TV show not for me, and if it is it will be something like Hunted or GBBO which i rarely tune in "live" for as it is.
As said above take it outside and kill it now. Although I would find it amusing to do take me out with cars, which would just show how low it has gone. No wonder Reid wanted out of the main show, Harris WTF are you playing at get off the sinking ship.
Is it April 1st already?
On a serious note. It is a shame the current 3 are being broken up. Le Blanc, fair enough his reasons for leaving are sound. But why has Rory Reid taken a step back? He was doing much much better in the last series. I'd love to know how they came to this decision...Because it is really f
king weird.
I will give it a go, but I am not expecting much. It can't be any worse than Chris Evans, surely?
On a serious note. It is a shame the current 3 are being broken up. Le Blanc, fair enough his reasons for leaving are sound. But why has Rory Reid taken a step back? He was doing much much better in the last series. I'd love to know how they came to this decision...Because it is really f
king weird. I will give it a go, but I am not expecting much. It can't be any worse than Chris Evans, surely?
Alex_6n2 said:
Harris didn't create content for 12 year olds. He didn't open a T-Shirt/Baseball cap store. He didn't do any of the daily VLOG crap. He didn't do clickbait titles with "Just purchased my new Lambo!!11" content.
He kept his videos technical, thorough and to the layman...boring.
Sadly, appeal for properly Car journalism is pretty niche.
Just look at Catchpole's stuff on Carfection. Incredible videos, but it will never appeal as broadly on YouTube as "HIII GUYZ IM SCHMEEE", because the average viewer on that platform is a child.
The trouble was/is that the program moved from a very factual one to a bit of a slapstick thing with the odd decent article. Clarkson and his minions eeked out just about every staged scenario they could and it was being slated on PH every week, I mean every week. Then the ginger one came along with his shouty voice and we had Eddie Jordan, Sabine, loads of them. That got slated. Fast forward to the end of the last season, that was slated. He kept his videos technical, thorough and to the layman...boring.
Sadly, appeal for properly Car journalism is pretty niche.
Just look at Catchpole's stuff on Carfection. Incredible videos, but it will never appeal as broadly on YouTube as "HIII GUYZ IM SCHMEEE", because the average viewer on that platform is a child.
I agree on Carfection, I also really enjoy Harry's Garage and 44 Teeth. I think McGuinness is all wrong for the show, Sir Flintoff, I don't know but people want bonafide car people, roots in actual car journalism etc, but do they, I mean me then? Top Gear isn't going to appeal to kids, they're on Youflix, the geeks will shake their heads at the cliches, probably already being written as we speak, and the middle ground will just flick through it when there's a particular article.
It used to be 'the' show, but times change. What is killing it very quickly is the revolving door of presenters.
E65Ross said:
Gameface said:
I don't think their choice of Ferraris bodes well for their petrolhead credentials.
How so? I think anyone who buys any form of Ferrari must be into cars to a certain extent. I personally wouldn't want a stripped out racer for the road, I'd like a bit of comfort. I also like a RR Phantom....doesn't stop me being a petrolhead because it's not a full on supercar though Edited by Gameface on Monday 22 October 13:18
McGuinness and Flintoff's choices of a California and 612 respectively doesn't fill me with hope. Certainly wouldn't be my choices
Or Chris Harris's for that matter...
yonex said:
It used to be 'the' show, but times change. What is killing it very quickly is the revolving door of presenters.
This i think is a real issue. I (probably one of the few) thought last series was a massive improvement, arguably better than the later Clarkson/May/Hammond series, you could see the main three were beginning to build some chemistry between them. But we're now back to square one again.
vixen1700 said:
Sheepshanks said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Chris when I read the title I thought it meant John McGuiness not Paddy!
I was hoping it might be Christine McGuinness, Paddy's missus. As long as she didn't talk.It'll be a decent light entertainment show. Paddy is likeable and funny no doubt about it. I can't speak for his car knowledge but suspect it to be zero, he'll be in the classroom with Harris for a while.
Two thick regional accents may be enough for some folks though and international appeal will most likely suffer (if it hasn't already).
Ideally they also need to be nurturing young talent with chemistry, fresh ideas and a genuine interest in cars. Not the st that is Extra Gear. A whole new programme, new format. A quiet, forming of a newer, fresher, mightier TV programme that can be nurtured, messed with, perfected, risk free. It'll still need a decent budget though. Give it a different name, look and feel. Let's honest you don't have to look far to find young talent with a specialised interest, many of whom have the chemistry already. They won't though. The BBC just doesn't believe it competes with You Tube.
Two thick regional accents may be enough for some folks though and international appeal will most likely suffer (if it hasn't already).
Ideally they also need to be nurturing young talent with chemistry, fresh ideas and a genuine interest in cars. Not the s
t that is Extra Gear. A whole new programme, new format. A quiet, forming of a newer, fresher, mightier TV programme that can be nurtured, messed with, perfected, risk free. It'll still need a decent budget though. Give it a different name, look and feel. Let's honest you don't have to look far to find young talent with a specialised interest, many of whom have the chemistry already. They won't though. The BBC just doesn't believe it competes with You Tube.Byker28i said:
vixen1700 said:
Sheepshanks said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Christ when I read the title I thought it meant John McGuiness not Paddy!
I was hoping it might be Christine McGuinness, Paddy's missus. As long as she didn't talk.
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