4wd or winter tyres, which is better?
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Depends if you have a Legacy Spec B. If you do then you don't need winter tyres and can drive through the artic, one handed (the other one no doubt between your legs).
And if you have a BMW, only an idiot would drive it in temperatures less than 20 degrees C. You will die in a fireball.
Where is Eric when you need him?
And if you have a BMW, only an idiot would drive it in temperatures less than 20 degrees C. You will die in a fireball.
Where is Eric when you need him?
MDMA . said:
Tom_Spotley_When said:
I used to have a BMW M135i. I drove it in all weather in the tyres it came on. Including snow. I didn't die and I didn't crash and the world still turns. If I had it last year, during the 3 days of bad weather, I probably wouldn't have gone to work on those days. My boss, whilst irritated, would have understood.
I now have a VW Touareg. It has some tyres on it. I think they're Michelin, I'm not sure. I drove it in all weathers last year. Including snow at christmas and the Beast from the East. I didn't die, the car didn't burst into flames and no-one died. When the weather was really bad in March, I spent 2 hours getting to work and 2 hours getting home. 12 hours commuting in 3 days My boss was thrilled. I wasn't.
Before the BMW I had a Jaguar XJ8. It did countless journeys in all weathers between Edinburgh and Manchester on some tyres. I didn't die.
Before the Jaguar, I had an MX-5. When it snowed, I drove home from work sideways. When it snowed some more, I worked from home
Would I buy winter tyres? Yes, if I had a grand to spare on them. It'd be a nice luxury. Can I cope without them? Yes. Will I buy them in future? Maybe.
Is there a definitive answer about what's better? No, because different people have different requirements and better, in this instance, is a completely subjective concept.
Can we finally put this to bed? I really hope so.
Then I put proper snow tyres (on just the front axle shock horror) of a Honda Civic and it was unstoppable, it would just drive up hills that had stuck wheelspinning cars at the bottom. I left those on for years, I think they were still on when I sold the car, and they were just fine through all those summers too.
NomduJour said:
The 4WD traction advantage is obvious - it’s the stopping where you’ll find a problem.
Nailed it! 4x4 certainly helps you get going and keep going but it does absolutely sod all when it comes to turning or stopping. I have an AWD car on 245 wide P-Zeros and it was utterly appalling last winter, borderline dangerous. I also had a 250bhp FWD car on all seasons and it simply drove rings round the other one.
Davie said:
NomduJour said:
The 4WD traction advantage is obvious - it’s the stopping where you’ll find a problem.
Nailed it! 4x4 certainly helps you get going and keep going but it does absolutely sod all when it comes to turning or stopping. I have an AWD car on 245 wide P-Zeros and it was utterly appalling last winter, borderline dangerous. I also had a 250bhp FWD car on all seasons and it simply drove rings round the other one.
300bhp/ton said:
BS62 said:
Blatant OP troll is blatant.
Trolling for what? Surely talking cars and tyres is exactly the sort of thing to expect on a forum called General Gassing on PistonHeads. (The answer is winter tyres btw.
Had an X3 on pzeros which got caught in snow and went and turned with no problems, dealing with some impressive depths, but required frightening stopping distances. Also had an MX5 which I put on winter tyres and which dealt with even worse conditions with the added benefit of being able to stop....apart from that one time, but we won’t talk about that.
Therefore since 4WD only allows for movement, and winter tyres allow for movement AND stopping, winter tyres are better).
<Cue electronic AWD is not 4WD argument>
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