RE: New BMW M8 details revealed
Discussion
Reciprocating mass said:
I bet it’s a great car if you like driving down the autobahn at 170 mph I’m not sure what there talking about with pure driving experience
It’s a Luxo barge it won’t be remotely interesting to drive fast on U.K. roads unless you like breaking the law on motorways which is not exciting to me one bit tbh
Im sure it’s nice when your in it racing across continents but boy they don’t make a nice looking car anymore I don’t think bmw make anything today that makes you think wow look at that the original 8 series makes this look like a
Taxi parked outside the local supermarket tbh
You say you'd bet it'd be good as a continent crusher, but you think it'd be rubbish as an interesting drive in UK roads. It’s a Luxo barge it won’t be remotely interesting to drive fast on U.K. roads unless you like breaking the law on motorways which is not exciting to me one bit tbh
Im sure it’s nice when your in it racing across continents but boy they don’t make a nice looking car anymore I don’t think bmw make anything today that makes you think wow look at that the original 8 series makes this look like a
Taxi parked outside the local supermarket tbh
How about judging it at being, you know, a big comfy daily driver? You know, sat in traffic, driving to and from work, going out at the weekends and being used as 99.99% of cars are used for? I reckon it'd be pretty good at that.
Makes me laugh about people saying the F Type is too fat and heavy..... I've driven an F Type R, it's f
king great fun! E65Ross said:
You say you'd bet it'd be good as a continent crusher, but you think it'd be rubbish as an interesting drive in UK roads.
How about judging it at being, you know, a big comfy daily driver? You know, sat in traffic, driving to and from work, going out at the weekends and being used as 99.99% of cars are used for? I reckon it'd be pretty good at that.
Makes me laugh about people saying the F Type is too fat and heavy..... I've driven an F Type R, it's fking great fun!
Exactly. Not all cars are trying to be Elises.How about judging it at being, you know, a big comfy daily driver? You know, sat in traffic, driving to and from work, going out at the weekends and being used as 99.99% of cars are used for? I reckon it'd be pretty good at that.
Makes me laugh about people saying the F Type is too fat and heavy..... I've driven an F Type R, it's f
king great fun! There's an Elise for that.
People don't need range rovers either, but they're bloody awesome at what they do (when they work).
E65Ross said:
You say you'd bet it'd be good as a continent crusher, but you think it'd be rubbish as an interesting drive in UK roads.
How about judging it at being, you know, a big comfy daily driver? You know, sat in traffic, driving to and from work, going out at the weekends and being used as 99.99% of cars are used for? I reckon it'd be pretty good at that.
Makes me laugh about people saying the F Type is too fat and heavy..... I've driven an F Type R, it's fking great fun!
Oh dear lol how about they try not to market it as one then, why do you get so upset and enraged about somebody else’s opinion on a carHow about judging it at being, you know, a big comfy daily driver? You know, sat in traffic, driving to and from work, going out at the weekends and being used as 99.99% of cars are used for? I reckon it'd be pretty good at that.
Makes me laugh about people saying the F Type is too fat and heavy..... I've driven an F Type R, it's f
king great fun! That doesn’t align with your own, if you like it then I’m very happy for you, I don’t particulalry like it so what does it matter to you
nickfrog said:
Kenny Powers said:
How about driving one before commenting on what it’s like to drive? 
What ? In the PH world of absolutes and anoraks, if it's got a turbo and auto box it can only be st. No need to check by driving it.
The really funny thing is that I’m willing to bet nearly everyone who hates it would cream themselves if they were given half a chance to drive one.
I think these will fly out the showrooms despite what everybody says.
The closest competitor this has is the S-Coupe and I’ll bet money that at the end of this 8 series production run, it will have outsold the S class coupe 3-1.
Yes they market it as sporty and the ultimate driving machine. Yes there are lighter, sportier cars but is there one, this size, at that price with all that tech and comfort that’s as good as it?
I can’t say yes because I haven’t driven it nor have I driven it’s closest rivals but I bet it’s sharper than all of them.
You’ve got 100 grand and want something that’s fun, quick and comfortable. What do you pick, the M850i, S500 coupe or an 18 month old continental?
The closest competitor this has is the S-Coupe and I’ll bet money that at the end of this 8 series production run, it will have outsold the S class coupe 3-1.
Yes they market it as sporty and the ultimate driving machine. Yes there are lighter, sportier cars but is there one, this size, at that price with all that tech and comfort that’s as good as it?
I can’t say yes because I haven’t driven it nor have I driven it’s closest rivals but I bet it’s sharper than all of them.
You’ve got 100 grand and want something that’s fun, quick and comfortable. What do you pick, the M850i, S500 coupe or an 18 month old continental?
Chestrockwell said:
My mistake, I forgot these were on sale but even still, what would you rather have?
I’d like to say the Lexus as it is a nice looking car, very distinctive and will age well but I wouldn’t want an NA V8 engine in a GT car such as this, with all that weight.
One of my clients had an RS5 Cab after an SQ5 and he hated it, said it wouldn’t go anywhere unless you properly floored it. That’s a 1700kg Audi with a 4.2, imagine a 2 tonne Lexus with 470 bhp and 400lbft high in the rev rangeI’d like to say the Lexus as it is a nice looking car, very distinctive and will age well but I wouldn’t want an NA V8 engine in a GT car such as this, with all that weight.
Chestrockwell said:
My mistake, I forgot these were on sale but even still, what would you rather have?
I’d like to say the Lexus as it is a nice looking car, very distinctive and will age well but I wouldn’t want an NA V8 engine in a GT car such as this, with all that weight.
Or indeed a Panamera, or even a 911 or DB11....it's interesting the M6 used to be judged against the 911 and the Vantage if one goes back to the Isle of Man Top Gear episode. The problem with this BMW is that by calling it the M8 is that while it looks like an M6 continuation, it is now punching towards cars that are truly premium products like the S coupe. I am in a position to buy a car like this having owned a (used) Conti GT and numerous 911s both new and used. I am the happy owner of a 5 series estate, and Mini cooper S, so I'm not averse to BMW products, but this would never feature. Hard to put my finger on it, but on the basis my requirement for rear seats is only occasional I'd almost certainly get a 911 or DB11. They look better, and almost certainly drive better than this. I always had a soft spot for the old CLs, and if you want a big cruiser, the Merc is likely to be a better bet I suspect. Will have the toys and is certainly way better looking. The Conti GT was amazing in it's own way, but was seriously unreliable, and I'd never go back to the brand having had appalling service via the manufacturers warranty, but that's another story... I’d like to say the Lexus as it is a nice looking car, very distinctive and will age well but I wouldn’t want an NA V8 engine in a GT car such as this, with all that weight.
I know there are those that criticise the apparent 'hate' on this site, but can anyone hand in heart say this, or indeed the Z4 on the other thread are anything other than an acquired taste at best? With £100k in your pocket, there is a lot of choice, especially if you can cope with a car a year or two old (indeed you'd be mad not to given the depreciation of some of these cars) and I can't help but think the sales of this will be rather less than the M6 that preceded it.
Indeed ancient as it is, I'd still even include the Maserati GT. It may not have the power or the kit of the Beemer, but it still looks beautiful, sounds amazing, and is just special....
Edited by Robert-nszl1 on Saturday 10th November 20:10
That's because the Audi's engine is designed to produce maximum power at the top end above 8000 rpm. The Lexus LC's is different in characteristics and is more focused on mid-range with redline hanging at only 7500 rpm.
Chestrockwell said:
Chestrockwell said:
My mistake, I forgot these were on sale but even still, what would you rather have?
I’d like to say the Lexus as it is a nice looking car, very distinctive and will age well but I wouldn’t want an NA V8 engine in a GT car such as this, with all that weight.
One of my clients had an RS5 Cab after an SQ5 and he hated it, said it wouldn’t go anywhere unless you properly floored it. That’s a 1700kg Audi with a 4.2, imagine a 2 tonne Lexus with 470 bhp and 400lbft high in the rev rangeI’d like to say the Lexus as it is a nice looking car, very distinctive and will age well but I wouldn’t want an NA V8 engine in a GT car such as this, with all that weight.
Robert-nszl1 said:
Indeed ancient as it is, I'd still even include the Maserati GT. It may not have the power or the kit of the Beemer, but it still looks beautiful, sounds amazing, and is just special....
It is indeed a wonderful looking and sounding thing. The interior is crap though as is the gearbox by the standards of today. Edited by Robert-nszl1 on Saturday 10th November 20:10
nicholasm said:
mylesmcd said:
You missed the point. The V12 engine from BMW is now dead. This was a great opportunity to use it in a halo model before it dies.
Competitors? Why worry about them.
Also, pedantry matters. BMW sold 2.08m cars last year. .1% of that equals 208,000 cars. At say 150k a pop it would make this a rather successful raid of the parts bin!
???Competitors? Why worry about them.
Also, pedantry matters. BMW sold 2.08m cars last year. .1% of that equals 208,000 cars. At say 150k a pop it would make this a rather successful raid of the parts bin!
Maths matters.
The V12 dying in the M760 is a true shame when they have a car like this being launched a year later. Unless there is a M8 Competiton Pack around the corner.....................
mylesmcd said:
nicholasm said:
mylesmcd said:
You missed the point. The V12 engine from BMW is now dead. This was a great opportunity to use it in a halo model before it dies.
Competitors? Why worry about them.
Also, pedantry matters. BMW sold 2.08m cars last year. .1% of that equals 208,000 cars. At say 150k a pop it would make this a rather successful raid of the parts bin!
???Competitors? Why worry about them.
Also, pedantry matters. BMW sold 2.08m cars last year. .1% of that equals 208,000 cars. At say 150k a pop it would make this a rather successful raid of the parts bin!
Maths matters.
The V12 dying in the M760 is a true shame when they have a car like this being launched a year later. Unless there is a M8 Competiton Pack around the corner.....................
8 series is a missed opportunity. It's just a rebranded 6 series. 8 should have been like the i8- a halo car. A two seat supercar; take the 4.4 v8, add hybrid power, carbon tub and put a lightweight supercar out there for c£130k.
This is another lardy coupe. 4 series is too big as it is.
This is another lardy coupe. 4 series is too big as it is.
PaulsM3 said:
8 series is a missed opportunity. It's just a rebranded 6 series. 8 should have been like the i8- a halo car. A two seat supercar; take the 4.4 v8, add hybrid power, carbon tub and put a lightweight supercar out there for c£130k.
This is another lardy coupe. 4 series is too big as it is.
You are looking at this from an outside-in position. It's only a missed opportunity if you are a small car maker wanting to make a name for yourself in a very competitive automotive industry.This is another lardy coupe. 4 series is too big as it is.
Established 'premium' brands have a sustainable captive audience (those who committed themselves into perpetual car finance schemes in the name of depreciation and debt service cost mitigation).
All BMW have to do is refresh their portfolio every 1-2 years and extend it progressively - this ensures revenue will continue by providing product refresh / upgrade paths. Folks who are emotionally invested into a brand, such as the likes of E65Ross creatively putting a positive spin in defense of every new model that is churned out is a bonus for the PR/marketing guys at BMW.
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