RE: Ariel launches 'Ace of Diamonds' special edition
Discussion
Ariel website is equally confusing...
Ariel Website said:
At the heart of each Ace – that aluminium perimeter frame. Recognisably Ariel, remarkably ingenious. Milled from solid billet; 70 hours of machining time; welded by hand; hard anodised; to form a piece of engineering that is a structural masterpiece but also a work of art. The beauty in a piece of machining, the thought, the care and the precision that has gone into every single compnent. And again, because you love motorcycles, you'll understand.
Della said:
I'm still a fan of my super sport bikes but when the time comes to slow down and get a cruiser, I'd be looking at something like this over a Harley any day. What a great looking bike.
You are joking I hope. 175 bhp and 230 kg. That is about the same as my current K1300S. On the road you would need a lot of talent (or ride like a complete lunatic) to go faster on a sports bike than on a K1300S so I can't imagine the Ace is much different. Hardly comparable with a Harley with no ground clearance. Although having said that, even with Harley's talent counts for a lot...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFzhc3i0PRY
tight fart said:
Doubt it will be Amy good, car people have never made a good motorcycle yet.
Yeah, so s
t MCN only gave it five out of five stars...https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/ariel/...
tight fart said:
Doubt it will be any good, car people have never made a good motorcycle yet.
Hmmm... I'm not going to pretend I know much about bikes but among other of their bikes the S1000RR is highly rated in the bike world. BMW seem to know what they are doing. I picked that bike because it was their first superbike while Japan had been doing it forever.Edited by tight fart on Tuesday 13th November 08:22
Edited by HighwayStar on Tuesday 13th November 08:40
Nanook said:
tight fart said:
Doubt it will be any good, car people have never made a good motorcycle yet.
Apart from BMW, Honda, Suzuki etc.?Edited by tight fart on Tuesday 13th November 08:22
And Honda? Honda?! Apart from the terrible Fireblade (that didn't sell), hated VFR (gear driven cams? What's the point of that then!) and massively unpopular CBR600 (nobody bought one!), what have they ever done?
And as for Suzuki, if you can name one massively popular sportsbike they've ever made I'll eat my hair!
On topic, doesn't look like Ariel have a UK dealer, from their website. As an MV owner, dealer availability has bitten me once already, even though I think I really like the Ace...
Krikkit said:
Nanook said:
Some of them are clearly tig welds, but some of what you're seeing is marks left from tooling/machining.
I think they machine the whole frame, with the exception of the steering tube which gets welded at the preferred angle.
I think PH have got it wrong, it looks like each section of the frame is machined from aluminium rather than the whole frame being machined from one single piece of aluminium.
One piece machining is clearly incorrect. Ariel don't claim that its a PH error.
Even a quick glance at the shape of the frame and anyone who knows CNC machining will conclude its impossible to have machined that in one piece.
Even as the 4 or 5 seperate CNC machined parts its a quality piece of CNC machining and the welding of it all together is also very nice quality.
I think all us engineers can appreciate the workmanship.
Seems a reasonable price to me, amazed they make any money at that price to be honest.
Even a quick glance at the shape of the frame and anyone who knows CNC machining will conclude its impossible to have machined that in one piece.
Even as the 4 or 5 seperate CNC machined parts its a quality piece of CNC machining and the welding of it all together is also very nice quality.
I think all us engineers can appreciate the workmanship.
Seems a reasonable price to me, amazed they make any money at that price to be honest.
Esceptico said:
You are joking I hope. 175 bhp and 230 kg. That is about the same as my current K1300S. On the road you would need a lot of talent (or ride like a complete lunatic) to go faster on a sports bike than on a K1300S so I can't imagine the Ace is much different. Hardly comparable with a Harley with no ground clearance. Although having said that, even with Harley's talent counts for a lot...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFzhc3i0PRY
Holy mother of God!!!! That is some epic riding absolutely fhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFzhc3i0PRY
king stupid but epic none the less. NordicCrankShaft said:
Esceptico said:
You are joking I hope. 175 bhp and 230 kg. That is about the same as my current K1300S. On the road you would need a lot of talent (or ride like a complete lunatic) to go faster on a sports bike than on a K1300S so I can't imagine the Ace is much different. Hardly comparable with a Harley with no ground clearance. Although having said that, even with Harley's talent counts for a lot...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFzhc3i0PRY
Holy mother of God!!!! That is some epic riding absolutely fhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFzhc3i0PRY
king stupid but epic none the less. Plasticedd said:
One piece machining is clearly incorrect. Ariel don't claim that its a PH error.
Even a quick glance at the shape of the frame and anyone who knows CNC machining will conclude its impossible to have machined that in one piece.
Even as the 4 or 5 seperate CNC machined parts its a quality piece of CNC machining and the welding of it all together is also very nice quality.
I think all us engineers can appreciate the workmanship.
Seems a reasonable price to me, amazed they make any money at that price to be honest.
To be fair the £20k is the base price. As soon as you add some options it spirals. Having looked at the configarator "my" Ace would be closer to £30kEven a quick glance at the shape of the frame and anyone who knows CNC machining will conclude its impossible to have machined that in one piece.
Even as the 4 or 5 seperate CNC machined parts its a quality piece of CNC machining and the welding of it all together is also very nice quality.
I think all us engineers can appreciate the workmanship.
Seems a reasonable price to me, amazed they make any money at that price to be honest.
Plasticedd said:
One piece machining is clearly incorrect. Ariel don't claim that its a PH error.
Even a quick glance at the shape of the frame and anyone who knows CNC machining will conclude its impossible to have machined that in one piece.
Even as the 4 or 5 seperate CNC machined parts its a quality piece of CNC machining and the welding of it all together is also very nice quality.
I think all us engineers can appreciate the workmanship.
Seems a reasonable price to me, amazed they make any money at that price to be honest.
I will admit it appears to be several pieces welded together. Even a quick glance at the shape of the frame and anyone who knows CNC machining will conclude its impossible to have machined that in one piece.
Even as the 4 or 5 seperate CNC machined parts its a quality piece of CNC machining and the welding of it all together is also very nice quality.
I think all us engineers can appreciate the workmanship.
Seems a reasonable price to me, amazed they make any money at that price to be honest.
However, whats to say that all the pieces weren't machined from the same singular lump of aluminium at the start, and then all welded together? That would tie up with the marketing blurb surely
Tis a lovely looking motorcycle though
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