RE: Next Audi RS7 caught testing; expect 650hp
Discussion
Maldini35 said:
borat52 said:
redroadster said:
No wonder Tesla is doing well ,Dinasour .
VAG made €14bn profit in 2017Tesla lost $2bn in 2017
I’m not sure that qualifies as “doing well” to most.
You’ll see a fully electric Audi if/when the finances add up.
If Tesla are supplying batteries for VAG it could look a very different picture.
As for Audi waiting for the finances to add up before launching their EV - they’re not that canny unfortunately.
Truth is they got swept away by their Diesel domination and took their eye off the electric ball. They are way behind where they need to be and are frantically playing catch up.
Audi always prided themselves on their advanced engineering and technology (Vorsprung Durch Technik means: leaping ahead through technology) but they have been caught with their pants down.
If they had a competitive EV offering ready now they would be agressively punting it globally - especially post dieselgate.
You’re faith in the all conquering VAG is misplaced (in this instance).
"The four-wheel-drive E-tron uses two asynchronous motors, one at the front axle and one at the rear axle, producing up to 402bhp and 487lb ft. In normal mode, it produces 355bhp and 414lb ft and is capable of 0-60mph in 6.4secs. At full power, in boost mode, it achieves 0-60mph in 5.5secs. Top speed is 124mph. Energy to power the motors comes from a 95kWh battery – the largest on the market and only matched by Tesla’s top-of-the-range Model S 100D."
TX.
j90gta said:
E65Ross said:
j90gta said:
This whole thing of stupid power outputs is getting ridiculous. Who actually needs 650 hp in a 4-door vehicle, be it a saloon, coupe or SUV? Why can't all these manufacturers look at building cars with better power to weight ratios. All these headline grabbing power outputs are probably necessary because cars and their occupants are getting bigger and heavier. I'd be more impressed if someone came up with a lightweight vehicle with less power but with equivalent performance. Just bolting on bigger turbos is not the answer.
Just out of question, why do you ask who needs this amount of power in a 4 door car, SUV etc but omitted small sports cars (eg a supercar). Why? Surely in a heavier car having more power makes more sense. You talk about more power to weight, but by adding power they do that. How would you strip a lot of weight from a car like this, without sacrificing one of its USPs (ie being quiet, comfortable and full of luxury)?
Cheers
There is no advancement in technology that can make a 4.5m long 5 seat, 4 door saloon, packed with technology and 5 star safety equipment weigh less than a black hole and not cost 7 figures.
As long as one manufacturer makes a 600+ bhp lump of heavy steel, all it's rivals will. No one will say "I'm gonna concede sales to them because I don't think we should keep doing this"
It is what it is. Some people want them and that's fine.
I often ask myself what is the point in making cars like the Hyararararara. I can't say it, will never see one, can never afford one, couldn't drive one as it would lose it's value (that I couldn't afford), has no practical use whatsoever and will certainly kill me and my 1 passenger (no luggage) as it's 2 feet tall and will get run over by a BMW X1.
Terminator X said:
Maldini35 said:
borat52 said:
redroadster said:
No wonder Tesla is doing well ,Dinasour .
VAG made €14bn profit in 2017Tesla lost $2bn in 2017
I’m not sure that qualifies as “doing well” to most.
You’ll see a fully electric Audi if/when the finances add up.
If Tesla are supplying batteries for VAG it could look a very different picture.
As for Audi waiting for the finances to add up before launching their EV - they’re not that canny unfortunately.
Truth is they got swept away by their Diesel domination and took their eye off the electric ball. They are way behind where they need to be and are frantically playing catch up.
Audi always prided themselves on their advanced engineering and technology (Vorsprung Durch Technik means: leaping ahead through technology) but they have been caught with their pants down.
If they had a competitive EV offering ready now they would be agressively punting it globally - especially post dieselgate.
You’re faith in the all conquering VAG is misplaced (in this instance).
"The four-wheel-drive E-tron uses two asynchronous motors, one at the front axle and one at the rear axle, producing up to 402bhp and 487lb ft. In normal mode, it produces 355bhp and 414lb ft and is capable of 0-60mph in 6.4secs. At full power, in boost mode, it achieves 0-60mph in 5.5secs. Top speed is 124mph. Energy to power the motors comes from a 95kWh battery – the largest on the market and only matched by Tesla’s top-of-the-range Model S 100D."
TX.
How about you?
Of course Audi are all over EV and I've no doubt they'll build a brilliant car.
My point was, it should be here by now.
Edited by Maldini35 on Friday 16th November 08:23
Maldini35 said:
Not seen many E-Trons round my way.
How about you?
Of course Audi are all over EV and I've no doubt they'll build a brilliant car.
My point was, it should here by now.
No one outside of VAG management knows, but it could be they just decided not to sell a car they will make a loss on and will revise that should it become profitable to do so.How about you?
Of course Audi are all over EV and I've no doubt they'll build a brilliant car.
My point was, it should here by now.
borat52 said:
Maldini35 said:
Not seen many E-Trons round my way.
How about you?
Of course Audi are all over EV and I've no doubt they'll build a brilliant car.
My point was, it should here by now.
No one outside of VAG management knows, but it could be they just decided not to sell a car they will make a loss on and will revise that should it become profitable to do so.How about you?
Of course Audi are all over EV and I've no doubt they'll build a brilliant car.
My point was, it should here by now.
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