RE: Litchfield Alpine A110: Driven
Discussion
Frimley111R said:
Nevertheless, it's still doable a normal remap price. That said, if you assume the owners can afford a £50k car this isn't too much for most.
Given the age of the cars in question and the fact it's seriously pushing the limits of the gearbox, I'd say the warranty is worth rather more than the remap itself. kambites said:
Given the age of the cars in question and the fact it's seriously pushing the limits of the gearbox, I'd say the warranty is worth rather more than the remap itself.
Your point about the gearbox is a good one. And Getrag kit isn't cheap to repair. I'll be very surprised if the warranty from Litchfield covers anything more than the engine - and may cover just their work. My suspicion is that if the extra power makes the gearbox go pop then you'll be on your own as Renault won't be rushing in to help either.
kambites said:
Given the age of the cars in question and the fact it's seriously pushing the limits of the gearbox, I'd say the warranty is worth rather more than the remap itself.
Gearbox will almost certainly be fine.They will not break if subjected to "a bit" extra.
I know people running over double their standard torque and gearbox is fine and has been fine for ages.
In the grand scheme of things, 60 odd ft lb is not much.
Noodle1982 said:
Litchfield have managed the impossible with this car.
They have somehow made one the sttest looking cars look even sttier.
It's not a great looking car in photos granted. It probably doesn't help being white and having the black stripes either. What I do like is the more aggressive stance from the suspension mods though I wonder whether that changes the car's ride a bit too much. They have somehow made one the sttest looking cars look even sttier.
I always thought the A110 looks nicer in real life but also get why it's not to everyone's taste. It is a bit of an oddball design compsred to the mainstream. It does have the "je ne sais quoi" about it though which I think very few cars have these days.
Edited by Prestonese on Tuesday 4th December 11:08
I understand people moaning about the price but it can't be easy for Litchfield to price something that is all fixed cost. The cost of putting a remap on your car in terms of materials is practically nothing, but the fixed cost of buying the kit, buying an Alpine, spending hours and hours understanding the original map, how to map it, what the consequences of mapping are and having the conviction to put a warranty on it must be huge. And then Litchfield don't know how many Alpine owners are going to want to have their cars mapped. If 500 Alpine owners would guarantee to have their cars mapped then I bet the price would be much better!
That aside, 277bhp/tonne sounds just about perfect. Want. This is the kind of sports car that suits the 21st Century, all these mega-weight, mega-power things aren't that enjoyable on the roads of today.
That aside, 277bhp/tonne sounds just about perfect. Want. This is the kind of sports car that suits the 21st Century, all these mega-weight, mega-power things aren't that enjoyable on the roads of today.
I see the top speed has been raised to 165..Be interesting to see what happens then without extra aero.
I recall the chief engineer saying they had limited the car to 155 as that was the max speed without aero. I read that as being the max speed they could get balancing power/torque and gearing on the car and the aero was just an excuse..Be interesting to see but I must admit I'd happily keep the 155 top speed. Won't make good reading if A110s start copying mercedes CLR and Lamborghini Miuras.
I recall the chief engineer saying they had limited the car to 155 as that was the max speed without aero. I read that as being the max speed they could get balancing power/torque and gearing on the car and the aero was just an excuse..Be interesting to see but I must admit I'd happily keep the 155 top speed. Won't make good reading if A110s start copying mercedes CLR and Lamborghini Miuras.
Edited by Miserablegit on Tuesday 4th December 11:29
nicfaz said:
I understand people moaning about the price but it can't be easy for Litchfield to price something that is all fixed cost. The cost of putting a remap on your car in terms of materials is practically nothing, but the fixed cost of buying the kit, buying an Alpine, spending hours and hours understanding the original map, how to map it, what the consequences of mapping are and having the conviction to put a warranty on it must be huge. And then Litchfield don't know how many Alpine owners are going to want to have their cars mapped. If 500 Alpine owners would guarantee to have their cars mapped then I bet the price would be much better!
That aside, 277bhp/tonne sounds just about perfect. Want. This is the kind of sports car that suits the 21st Century, all these mega-weight, mega-power things aren't that enjoyable on the roads of today.
This is the thing, people forget the R&D costs, sounds like Litchfield don't just ramp up the boost without proper testing etc and they obviously are confident enough in their work here to offer a warranty. It's not as though there are 1000's of these cars on the road either so will sell for more as they will sell far less than e.g. a remap for a popular car e.g. like a golf R.That aside, 277bhp/tonne sounds just about perfect. Want. This is the kind of sports car that suits the 21st Century, all these mega-weight, mega-power things aren't that enjoyable on the roads of today.
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