RE: Litchfield Alpine A110: Driven

RE: Litchfield Alpine A110: Driven

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Frimley111R

15,538 posts

233 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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2Btoo said:
MDMA . said:
£1194 for a re-map! No thanks smile
Re-map AND warranty! Keep up at the back! smile
Nevertheless, it's still double a normal remap price. That said, if you assume the owners can afford a £50k car this isn't too much for most.

kambites

67,463 posts

220 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Frimley111R said:
Nevertheless, it's still doable a normal remap price. That said, if you assume the owners can afford a £50k car this isn't too much for most.
Given the age of the cars in question and the fact it's seriously pushing the limits of the gearbox, I'd say the warranty is worth rather more than the remap itself. hehe

2Btoo

3,410 posts

202 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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kambites said:
Given the age of the cars in question and the fact it's seriously pushing the limits of the gearbox, I'd say the warranty is worth rather more than the remap itself. hehe
Your point about the gearbox is a good one. And Getrag kit isn't cheap to repair.

I'll be very surprised if the warranty from Litchfield covers anything more than the engine - and may cover just their work. My suspicion is that if the extra power makes the gearbox go pop then you'll be on your own as Renault won't be rushing in to help either.

kmpowell

2,918 posts

227 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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redroadster said:
Seems this tuner always gets it right ,well done .
Really... go and have a google for some real-life RS6 stories on their power claims v's the actual reality.

chickensoup

469 posts

254 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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biscuit tin branding?

GranCab

2,902 posts

145 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Missing the "T" ... for Tuner ....

xjay1337

15,966 posts

117 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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kambites said:
Given the age of the cars in question and the fact it's seriously pushing the limits of the gearbox, I'd say the warranty is worth rather more than the remap itself. hehe
Gearbox will almost certainly be fine.
They will not break if subjected to "a bit" extra.
I know people running over double their standard torque and gearbox is fine and has been fine for ages.

In the grand scheme of things, 60 odd ft lb is not much.

Noodle1982

2,103 posts

105 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Litchfield have managed the impossible with this car.

They have somehow made one the sttest looking cars look even sttier.

john41901

713 posts

65 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Noodle1982 said:
Litchfield have managed the impossible with this car.

They have somehow made one the sttest looking cars look even sttier.
rofl watch out, you'll upset the Alpine mafia again...

rampageturke

2,622 posts

161 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Very nice looking car in the blue, but I feel this car doesn't work in white at all.

The wheels are a bit gash too, and the stripe. In my opinion.

Miserablegit

4,013 posts

108 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Noodle1982 said:
Litchfield have managed the impossible with this car.

They have somehow made one the sttest looking cars look even sttier.
Where would we be without your erudite expositions.....

Prestonese

793 posts

104 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Noodle1982 said:
Litchfield have managed the impossible with this car.

They have somehow made one the sttest looking cars look even sttier.
It's not a great looking car in photos granted. It probably doesn't help being white and having the black stripes either. What I do like is the more aggressive stance from the suspension mods though I wonder whether that changes the car's ride a bit too much.

I always thought the A110 looks nicer in real life but also get why it's not to everyone's taste. It is a bit of an oddball design compsred to the mainstream. It does have the "je ne sais quoi" about it though which I think very few cars have these days.

Edited by Prestonese on Tuesday 4th December 11:08

Prestonese

793 posts

104 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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john41901 said:
rofl watch out, you'll upset the Alpine mafia again...
We're a reasonable bunch really. I just take the view that passive aggression will convince you of this car's merits eventually....

nickfrog

20,874 posts

216 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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john41901 said:
Noodle1982 said:
Litchfield have managed the impossible with this car.

They have somehow made one the sttest looking cars look even sttier.
rofl watch out, you'll upset the Alpine mafia again...
Not sure what an Alpine mafia is but it sounds like someone else is upset.

nicfaz

430 posts

229 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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I understand people moaning about the price but it can't be easy for Litchfield to price something that is all fixed cost. The cost of putting a remap on your car in terms of materials is practically nothing, but the fixed cost of buying the kit, buying an Alpine, spending hours and hours understanding the original map, how to map it, what the consequences of mapping are and having the conviction to put a warranty on it must be huge. And then Litchfield don't know how many Alpine owners are going to want to have their cars mapped. If 500 Alpine owners would guarantee to have their cars mapped then I bet the price would be much better!

That aside, 277bhp/tonne sounds just about perfect. Want. This is the kind of sports car that suits the 21st Century, all these mega-weight, mega-power things aren't that enjoyable on the roads of today.

Noodle1982

2,103 posts

105 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Miserablegit said:
Noodle1982 said:
Litchfield have managed the impossible with this car.

They have somehow made one the sttest looking cars look even sttier.
Where would we be without your erudite expositions.....
The exact same place you'd be with it.

Most probably.

Miserablegit

4,013 posts

108 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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I see the top speed has been raised to 165..Be interesting to see what happens then without extra aero.
I recall the chief engineer saying they had limited the car to 155 as that was the max speed without aero. I read that as being the max speed they could get balancing power/torque and gearing on the car and the aero was just an excuse..Be interesting to see but I must admit I'd happily keep the 155 top speed. Won't make good reading if A110s start copying mercedes CLR and Lamborghini Miuras.





Edited by Miserablegit on Tuesday 4th December 11:29

springfan62

831 posts

75 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Noodle1982 said:
Litchfield have managed the impossible with this car.

They have somehow made one the sttest looking cars look even sttier.
The good news is you won't be buying one.



rb_89

113 posts

69 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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nicfaz said:
I understand people moaning about the price but it can't be easy for Litchfield to price something that is all fixed cost. The cost of putting a remap on your car in terms of materials is practically nothing, but the fixed cost of buying the kit, buying an Alpine, spending hours and hours understanding the original map, how to map it, what the consequences of mapping are and having the conviction to put a warranty on it must be huge. And then Litchfield don't know how many Alpine owners are going to want to have their cars mapped. If 500 Alpine owners would guarantee to have their cars mapped then I bet the price would be much better!

That aside, 277bhp/tonne sounds just about perfect. Want. This is the kind of sports car that suits the 21st Century, all these mega-weight, mega-power things aren't that enjoyable on the roads of today.
This is the thing, people forget the R&D costs, sounds like Litchfield don't just ramp up the boost without proper testing etc and they obviously are confident enough in their work here to offer a warranty. It's not as though there are 1000's of these cars on the road either so will sell for more as they will sell far less than e.g. a remap for a popular car e.g. like a golf R.

shalmaneser

5,930 posts

194 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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I really like the look of these cars.