Haymarket agrees sale of PistonHeads to CarGurus

Haymarket agrees sale of PistonHeads to CarGurus

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The Mad Monk

5,171 posts

61 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Lemming Train said:
Call me a cynic but what they tell you and what they actually do are going to be two completely different things imo. The forums don't make any money and we know this because despite HM filling them to the rafters with 1000 ads per page they couldn't make it pay and bailed out. CG will either double the number of ads or they'll bin the forums. It doesn't take a genius to figure this out when they have shareholders to answer to.
Don't worry about it.

It will change, or it will stay the same, or it will shut, or it will stay open.

It's an internet motoring based forum.

Don't worry about it (did I say that?)

Plenty of fish in the sea.

Beefmeister

15,349 posts

174 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Jack Mansfield said:
"Lemming Train is a Cynic!" biggrin

In all seriousness though, despite my response you are clearly still concerned so all I can do is reassure again that there are no intentions at all to close the forums.
I'm chuffed if that's the case Jack and thanks for your response. It can't be easy for you all to read such negativity when i'm sure you're all fairly happy about the news.

I'm hoping that as PH is now split from Haymarket and the 'talent pool' for contributors, the new ownership will mean more opportunity for freelancers to pitch ideas to PH. It's where I started doing reviews and would love to do some stuff for PH in the future.

uk66fastback

14,095 posts

215 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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pidsy said:
Genuine Barn Find said:
I may be 'sooooo old' (even if at 44 I'd like to think I have plenty of life left in me), but with approaching 13 years in, (it's actually longer, but I couldn't remember my original user name so had to re-register), I have no interest/desire to bring myself up to date with other forms of social media. PH isn't perfect, but it's comfortable enough and I have been able to find answers to pretty much every motoring related question I've ever had. I laughed and cried with this forum, and found a massive amount of support when I was at my lowest ebb back into 2010 (I lost my wife to cancer). I doubt I am alone with the affection I hold for PH. What will be will be, but I suspect that this forum will change (and not for the better) with the new name above the door. I'll probably stick around though (for as long as I continue to remember my latest password).
A very similar sentiment to my own. I don’t do other social media - this is as social as I get!
It’ll change, it has to/is bound to - will it improve? Possibly, but everyone fears the unknown. We don’t have any choice so regardless of our mumblings on this thread, CG will do whatever they want.

It’s be nice to hear from them though.
This goes for me too ... PH is comfortable for people of a certain age, unlike the social media self-obsessed ste ...

Change is inevitable I fear. If they drop the forums, we're all mostly gone. But if it makes $$$, the owners will care not a jot.

thegreenhell

6,030 posts

163 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Jack Mansfield said:

All I’d say is that I’d recommend giving it a chance. I genuinely believe you’re all in for a very pleasant surprise!
Does the pleasant surprise extend as far as some dev budget to fix the persistent bugs that were introduced with the 2017 forum 'upgrade'?

RossP

2,230 posts

227 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Are they finally going to kill off the Phonesafe scam? https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Blib

35,146 posts

141 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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I note Jack Mansfield totally ignored my perfectly reasonable request to close down the Liverpool FC thread as part of the takeover shake-up.

Typical!

rolleyes

PixelpeepS3

5,647 posts

86 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Blib said:
I note Jack Mansfield totally ignored my perfectly reasonable request to close down the Liverpool FC thread as part of the takeover shake-up.

Typical!

rolleyes
think yourself lucky, my 'can i get my lifetime ban from NP&E lifted now' didn't even make the cut... lol

Pommy

9,953 posts

160 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Blib said:
I note Jack Mansfield totally ignored my perfectly reasonable request to close down the Liverpool FC thread as part of the takeover shake-up.

Typical!

rolleyes
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Blib.
Blib who?
Exactly.

Blib

35,146 posts

141 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Pommy said:
Blib said:
I note Jack Mansfield totally ignored my perfectly reasonable request to close down the Liverpool FC thread as part of the takeover shake-up.

Typical!

rolleyes
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Blib.
Blib who?
Exactly.
That's me told!

rofl

0a

21,351 posts

138 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Can we get the old mobile look back now?

Biker's Nemesis

35,843 posts

152 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Jack Mansfield said:

Hi everyone

smilo996

1,495 posts

114 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Currently PH seems to be all about those who use it. Cue the Muricans where it will be all about money.
More adverts, advertatorials and paid content.
Disqus forums, so good bye to the current format.
Lower quality higher audience of chavs.
Nothing Muricans do is ever stand alone.

Lets hope the cynics are wrong.

funkyrobot

17,495 posts

172 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Will 'upload an image' finally be taken out of beta?

phoenixz

429 posts

110 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Now that the "will the forum die" discussion has been cleared up, could i suggest a change in style similar to reddit for the forums.

I can hear the blood vessels of more senior members popping as i type this, but there is a reason that reddit is so highly regarded on the internet. I don't think it would take much for most members to transition. In fact, i imagine that most are already on it.

With people raging at their screens i might as well put out the rest of my suggestions (in for a penny...)
- Your social media manager needs a lot of help and money (perhaps hiring someone that was born in the 21st century might help)
- Instagram is where the kids are at, but there is still a massive facebook user base to exploit
- Maybe a pistonheads app where people can post car meets in local areas
- More and more short videos until it hurts (Petrolicious is the Halo site for me on this)
- Bring back Dan Trent
- A section off the first page with small and fast articles may prove popular. People will look for the information that interests them and they prefer to look in one place. So doing something similar to Car Throttle won't hurt as long as you keep it separate from the main page with the more fleshed out content.
- To the best of my knowledge there has never been a Sunday Service in Scotland


i assume that the classifieds will be linked to CGs uk classifieds, but will there be a merger of styles?

I guess the challenge will be that you have years of technology catch up and investment required to get back to where you were and regain the lost readers. The best place to start with that will always be with the younger audience.
However the 20-30 somethings (most of whom are on facebook) are most likely to have the disposable cash and probably your target. (there is a reason why all the 90s films are getting remade or sequels)

AndrewGP

1,327 posts

106 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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phoenixz said:
The best place to start with that will always be with the younger audience.

However the 20-30 somethings (most of whom are on facebook) are most likely to have the disposable cash and probably your target. (there is a reason why all the 90s films are getting remade or sequels)
Whilst I'm open to the majority of the stuff you've said, my impression is that most (but not all, I admit) 'younger audience' and '20-30 somethings' in this country neither have any interest in cars (bar whether they can connect their phone to it) or the disposable cash to spunk on one even if they did? Am I wrong? It's a genuine question by the way, not a criticism smile

honest_delboy

1,164 posts

144 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Samaritans 116123 cry

poing

8,526 posts

144 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Jack Mansfield said:
Lots of positive stuff and I really really hope he's right although I might have registered somewhere else last night, just in case
Will I still be able to tell people off for using the word tire when they mean tyre or will I have to accept the spelling since our new American cousins are paying to keep the lights on?

Thesprucegoose

18,624 posts

139 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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I blame brexit.

thepeoplespal

1,282 posts

221 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Having 17 and a half years on the site, I remember well the stink kicked up when "The Lounge" was created with all its sub forums. A few toys were thrown out of the pram that is for sure.

I would like a few upgrades, a thumbs up or down in some forums might be useful for this relative lucker to interact.

Being able to ignore some posters would also make it a more pleasant experience.

But most of all get the classifieds working, I haven't looked at them for years, I used to browse all the time, but most of all we used to create posts with links to actual cars on the site. Get that right and the forums drive traffic to the cars for sale on the site. Cheap private ads might not make much money, but the bargains allowed more linger time on other vehicles.

I've just had another go at the classifieds, truly dire, 0xboring cars, 1x bargain barge, still no site map style with vehicle types and numbers of ads on site - probably too embarrassed at some of the low numbers. How can you generate content about non existent cars.

Given the good natural rankings on search engines, the sheer stickiness of posters hanging round the site on a regular basis, the new owners would be cutting their noses off to spite their faces if they change the forums too much, as it doesn't take much to see kill a site with stupid changes to functionality.

Edited by thepeoplespal on Thursday 6th December 21:10

valiant

3,845 posts

104 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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I know forums are old Skool but they have their place and some of us can't be bothered with Faceache, Instaste or Snapcrap and feel more comfortable with something familiar that works.

Hopefully CG will take the opportunity to overhaul the forums to make it slick and something that isn't prone to breaking down or slowing to a crawl whenever a pigeon flies past PH towers.

It seems that ads cause many of the problems on here and whilst I know they are definately not going away and help pay for the free to use site, there must be a way of integrating them into the site that doesn't affect the user experience. Phers use adblockers because of way it slows everything down. Phers also know that ads pay for the site and are willing to put up with ads if it doesn't affect the site's usability - the current setup is a nightmare, even now there's a thread in website feedback about the slow performance and people are switching to browsers that block ads.

I appreciate that this frustrates the people running the site as much as its users so maybe a push to modernise at the start will start us all on the right foot. New broom and all that.
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