RE: Litchfield Alpine A110: PH Trade-Off!

RE: Litchfield Alpine A110: PH Trade-Off!

Sunday 9th December 2018

Litchfield Alpine A110: PH Trade-Off!

Half the cost of the tweaked Alpine we drove this week now buys you a track toy from those fine folk over at Hethel...



"Litchfield's remap costs £995 before VAT and there's little doubt it makes the A110 an even more exciting sports car than it already is." So spake m'colleague Mr Prosser of the Litchfield-tuned Alpine A110 he drove for PH this week. While some may have thought there was little room for improvement upon the utterly fabulous French sports car, then, it turns out there was - and for that rather reasonable sum, you can turn it into a car that will worry a 911.

Combined with the cost of an entry-level A110, that brings the total cost of a Litchfield-tuned example to £48,099. Still not an exorbitant figure in this day and age, and one for which it's hard to imagine a car that does so much, so well. So is there anything we can we drum up for half that price that holds a candle to it?

Well, keeping in mind that the hotted-up Alpine has the pace to frighten Porsche 911s, it is to the 911 we must head first. Whereupon we find this 997 Carrera S, dating from 2005, and with a very reasonable 60,000 miles on the clock. It's got the sports seats, Sport Chrono pack and a smattering of other options, and also comes with a full service history with the most recent being a big one. All very tempting - but also rather obvious. As tempting as the Porsche is, the lightweight, specialist feel of the Alpine is missing here - as is its tuner status.


Offering the latter by the bucket, however, is the Toyota GT86. Currently, there are no tuned examples for sale in the PH Classifieds, but this one, with just 5,000 miles on the clock, looks like the ideal base. Its £18,999 cost should, with a bit of haggling, leave plenty of room in the budget for an aftermarket turbo or supercharger conversion, an uprated clutch and some new brakes. And you can even have the work done by Litchfield, should you choose.

But as tempting as a boosted GT86 is, it still doesn't have quite that hardcore edge we're looking for. Which is why our money would instead go on this fantastic-looking Lotus Exige S2. Finished in Titanium Storm with black wheels, it looks hard as nails, and every bit as modern as the Alpine to these eyes despite its 12-year age deficit. Or surfeit, in fact, depending on which way round you look at it. The Lotus has a not-inconsiderable 61,000 miles under its wheels, too; either someone's been a committed commuter, or it's seen an awful lot of track days.


Happily, it's probably the former, as this Exige has the Touring pack fitted to it, which makes it marginally more usable than the standard car- you get electric windows, carpets, and plusher seats. Such luxury! But even if it has done a few track days, the signs are there that that shouldn't matter; a recent clutch and refreshed rear dampers will help it to feel fresh.

What's more, this particular Exige can play the tuner card, too, as it's had a few tweaks of its own. They're minor, mind you, so the goodness of the standard car hasn't been corrupted - but the engine has been freed up a little with an aftermarket exhaust and induction kit, which should give it a suitably fruity soundtrack. There's an upgraded radiator, too, to help with cooling - not that the Toyota-sourced engine's reliability has ever been in much doubt.


Oh sure, the Exige gives away quite a bit of power to the Alpine; both have 1.8-litre engines, but the Alpine's is, of course, turbocharged. Let's not forget, though, that Lotus made the pursuit of lightness its own long before the modern Alpine was even a twinkle in its parent company's eye, so the raw performance figures are far closer than you'd think.

The one area where this Exige really does lose out to the Alpine of course, apart from its age, is on day-to-day usability. You don't get your air conditioning, or your sat nav, or much else in the way of creature comforts. But as a fast road and track-focused weekend toy, it'll offer you everything the Litchfield Alpine can and more - and all for less than half the price.


SPECIFICATION - LITCHFIELD ALPINE A110

Engine: 1,798cc four-cylinder turbo petrol
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 304@6,295rpm
Torque (lb ft): 298@3,450rpm
0-62mph: 4.2 secs (estimated)
Top speed: 165mph
Weight: 1,098kg
MPG: n/a
CO2: n/a
Price: from £48,099

SPECIFICATION - LOTUS EXIGE S2

Engine: 1,796cc, four-cylinder
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 190@7,800rpm
Torque (lb ft): 138@6,800rpm
0-62mph: 4.7 secs
Top speed: 147mph
Weight: 914kg
MPG: 32
CO2: 208g/km
Price: £22,500

Author
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hughcam

Original Poster:

419 posts

165 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Driven both and owned the an Exige s2 and two 111r’s. As a drivers car there isn’t even a comparison for me, the Loti are on another level for engagement and fun.

The Alpine is a cracking everyday sports car though and far more usable. Really needed a manual option for me to put one on the fleet though.

Simon Owen

805 posts

134 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Did exactly this.

Drove the £50k Alpine back to back with a lightly modified ‘nearly new’ 86, money no object yes I would have the Alpine but (performance aside) there were several things the 86 was better at and it still felt very special.

At £50k vs <£25k it just didn’t stack up, much as I loved the Alpine.

I went down the NA route so I’m down on power, it would cost another £3,850 to get Alpine performance via a very well designed stage one turbo set up which I’m told maintain v good reliability and exceptional throttle response etc.

The Lotus is not a great comp IMHO as they both do v different things whereas the 86 is actually very similar in many ways.

I would dearly love to lose 200kg in the 86 though .... probably it’s biggest downfall against the Alpine, well that and the way the Alpine deals with Blighty blacktop :-)


Edited by Simon Owen on Sunday 9th December 10:36

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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article said:
Combined with the cost of an entry-level A110, that brings the total cost of a Litchfield-tuned example to £48,099. Still not an exorbitant figure in this day and age, and one for which it's hard to imagine a car that does so much, so well
Ok, maybe i'm a tight wad, but nearly 50 large for a one trick pony seems a lot to me!

(the only thing that a niche sports car like the alpine does well is go fast. It can't seat four, tow a trailer, go off road, return >50mpg, survive a crash with an SUV, get a sideboard in the back, etc etc)


borat52

564 posts

208 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Personally I’d be looking towards a ND MX5 with a BBR turbo. You’d have a 2/3 year old car with under 20k miles and 240bhp/<1100kg. £25k would be enough to sort out brakes/suspension too.

artdealer

258 posts

213 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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This upgrade would elevate the A110 into a great power to weight ratio. Although I'm unsure about immediately invalidating the manufacturer warranty on a new car, but has anyone, ever, had a claim knocked back after a remap? (I know that should probably another thread and there may even be one) Agree with previous respondent about a manual option would be preferred by myself.

Alpine have put the cat amongst the pigeons with their 1108kg sports car.

andyj007

303 posts

178 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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and lets not forget that exige will still be worth exactly the same price in 5 years time where the apline will have lost 25k. so basically buy the exige now & in fiveyears time you get a free alpine a110, or perhaps one for 5k additional.. then you got two cars for the price of 48k alpine.. whats not to love


anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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andyj007 said:
and lets not forget that exige will still be worth exactly the same price in 5 years time where the apline will have lost at least 25k.
FTFY smile

Bencolem

1,016 posts

239 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Max_Torque said:
Ok, maybe i'm a tight wad, but nearly 50 large for a one trick pony seems a lot to me!

(the only thing that a niche sports car like the alpine does well is go fast. It can't seat four, tow a trailer, go off road, return >50mpg, survive a crash with an SUV, get a sideboard in the back, etc etc)
I think the website you’re looking for is here: https://www.whatcar.comwhatcar.com

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Max_Torque said:
article said:
Combined with the cost of an entry-level A110, that brings the total cost of a Litchfield-tuned example to £48,099. Still not an exorbitant figure in this day and age, and one for which it's hard to imagine a car that does so much, so well
Ok, maybe i'm a tight wad, but nearly 50 large for a one trick pony seems a lot to me!

(the only thing that a niche sports car like the alpine does well is go fast. It can't seat four, tow a trailer, go off road, return >50mpg, survive a crash with an SUV, get a sideboard in the back, etc etc)
Eh? Isn't that the same with a 458, 720, Exige, Atom etc?

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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SidewaysSi said:
Max_Torque said:
article said:
Combined with the cost of an entry-level A110, that brings the total cost of a Litchfield-tuned example to £48,099. Still not an exorbitant figure in this day and age, and one for which it's hard to imagine a car that does so much, so well
Ok, maybe i'm a tight wad, but nearly 50 large for a one trick pony seems a lot to me!

(the only thing that a niche sports car like the alpine does well is go fast. It can't seat four, tow a trailer, go off road, return >50mpg, survive a crash with an SUV, get a sideboard in the back, etc etc)
Eh? Isn't that the same with a 458, 720, Exige, Atom etc?
Absolutely! Maybe it's because i'm not rich enough, but none of those cars are good value for money. You can get a lot more motor for the same money, but you'll have to buy several cars to do that.....

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Max_Torque said:
the alpine ..... can't survive a crash with an SUV.."
What a strange post. A modern coupe should have good accident performance in light of stringent Euro crash testing.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 9th December 20:30

Miserablegit

4,021 posts

109 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Schmed said:
FTFY smile
Smeg, I was beginning to worry about you as you had not appeared on an alpine thread...
Tell me how good your 718 is again...

Tickle

4,916 posts

204 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Miserablegit said:
Schmed said:
FTFY smile
Smeg, I was beginning to worry about you as you had not appeared on an alpine thread...
Tell me how good your 718 is again...
I wonder if it's some sort of 6th sense that starts tingling if someone mentions the A110.

AER

1,142 posts

270 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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rockin said:
Max_Torque said:
the alpine ..... can't survive a crash with an SUV.."
What a strange post. A modern coupe should have good accident performance in light of stringent Euro crash testing.

Edited by rockin on Sunday 9th December 20:30
Unfortunately this is not true. The crash test performance is only equivalent to crashing into another A110. Not an SUV (or EV...) that's over twice its mass!

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Schmed said:
andyj007 said:
and lets not forget that exige will still be worth exactly the same price in 5 years time where the apline will have lost at least 25k.
FTFY smile
No it won't.

Sport220

632 posts

75 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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I'd rather buy a new MX-5 2 liter and modify it to my liking or an Elise 220 / used Exige 350.

dunnoreally

963 posts

108 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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So, we're looking for a cheaper alternative to a light, mid-engined coupe with a sweet chassis and some proper tuning potential? How has no-one mentioned the MR2 yet?

Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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£995+VAT for a remap? Why so expensive?


craigjm

17,950 posts

200 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Driver101 said:
£995+VAT for a remap? Why so expensive?
Warranty to cover anything that the Alpine warranty refuses I guess

Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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craigjm said:
Driver101 said:
£995+VAT for a remap? Why so expensive?
Warranty to cover anything that the Alpine warranty refuses I guess
It's double the price of the Audi RS3 or BMW 140i.

How do often do tuners cover failures?

It'd be interesting to see how often a failure happens. It sounds as if too often customers go back to dealers and hope the remap isn't found.