RS6 Depreciation

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S5man

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44 posts

86 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Hi guys,

I am looking at an 2017 plate, but built 2018 RS6 . How much do we think it will depreciate over 2 and 3 years? Looking at the current selection of RS6 which are 2 or 3 years old on the Audi approved website they seem to be holding onto their value pretty well.

Also the new RS6 is due to come out in the next 12 months but with the 3.0 litre engine which will be significantly less appealing than the current version I believe. Do we think this will make the current RS6 more desirable?

Thanks very much.

Tim

S5man

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44 posts

86 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Anyone at all? All comments appreciated, cheers.

glm1977

199 posts

161 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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its pretty hard to second guess... the new rs6 probably wont be out until 2020 and not sure there has been any concrete evidence on the power train so if its a turbo engine or turbo engine plus some sort of electric motor (like the porsche panamera) it could have a small or large impact on desirability and onwards to the 2nd hand car market. either way, the C7 will take a hit once the C8 is announced and starts to hit the roads

plus in a couple of years you'll start to see these potential electric alternatives - porsche taycan, audi e-tron gt etc... which may tempt people away from the rs6 (if they live up to the hype) and impact the market

either way, you gonna lose a chunk of change probably in the region of £7-10k a year give of take (this is based on my own experience of C6 and C7 ownership)


S5man

Original Poster:

44 posts

86 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Thanks for the response. TBH losing £7k a year is acceptable. The model I am looking at is really low mileage and I do very few too plus it has a lot of extras.

I have looked at a few other things and nothing has appealed as much as this.

kmpowell

2,926 posts

228 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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S5man said:
Looking at the current selection of RS6 which are 2 or 3 years old on the Audi approved website they seem to be holding onto their value pretty well.
Ignore the screen prices, it's the 'trade' values that matter. That's what you would get for it if you p/x and/or sold. Punch a few of the AUC car reg' plates into WBAC, Autotrader and Parkers, sit back, and have a laugh with comfort in the knowledge you checked before ploughing money into a depreciation nightmare.

Edited by kmpowell on Wednesday 12th December 11:52

CSLchappie

436 posts

204 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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kmpowell said:
Ignore the screen prices, it's the 'trade' values that matter. That's what you would get for it if you p/x and/or sold. Punch a few of the AUC car reg' plates into WBAC, Autotrader and Parkers, sit back, and have a laugh with comfort in the knowledge you checked before ploughing money into a depreciation nightmare.

Edited by kmpowell on Wednesday 12th December 11:52
This, I walked away from buying one a couple of months ago for numerous reasons, a fairly large one being the amount deprecation still ahead of them and the fact I've got a fairly decent car at the moment which has suffered minimal depreciation since buying it.

Also, sticker prices aren't really a good indicator to actual value or what a dealer will accept, I've looked at numerous RS6's this year and come close to buying two different examples. The first one is still for sale at a main dealer 5 months later and 6k cheaper, its a very well specced low miles 16 plate and I know the current sticker price is not the bottom line on that particular car. The second was again a very high specced PE, within a week of it going on sale I'd got 2.5k off before I walked away, it was sat on sale for another two months before finally selling last week.

Ultimately, any 'mass market' M, RS or AMG is only ever going one way in value and the best indicator is to look at the previous generation and extrapolate what the likely hit will be on the current model come two or three years time. RS6's residuals appear to be a little firmer but I suspect that is partly due to the cross over point with the RS4 market.

Needless to say I still hanker for one and look at the classified every day, but as I've got older the head generally overrules the heart now (the irony being is that now I can comfortable afford one, whereas some of my previous car choices definitely stretched the finances!)

S5man

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44 posts

86 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Cheers for all the replies guys. Completely torn.
Pumped various regs into various websites and all of them bar autotrader show a significant hit on the car.

I earn good money (self employed) and have a fair amount of disposable income but I am feeling a little guilty about what I am potentially going to spend and lose on a car. It isn't sensible in any way shape or form haha. But ive loved owning my S5 and want something better but I need a big boot for the new dog!

Discombobulate

4,836 posts

186 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Bought mine new. Good spec 2015 facelift model. Sold after 3 years to the trade with 34k miles on it. Lost exactly £10k per year. And I loved every moment of it.

ninepoint2

3,279 posts

160 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Might be better looking at a low mileage C6 which will have done a fair bit of it's depreciation already, and it's a V10, just imagine telling your grand kids that you used to own a 5.0l V10, twin turbo with 572 BHP estate car.thumbup worth many Grandad points I reckon as they will probably be only able to drive measly 3 cylinder or electric rubbish wink I just get into mine sometimes and drive it anywhere for no reason because it just puts a huge grin on my face every time I stab the throttle..mind you I do live within easy reach of some of the best roads Scotland has to offer, the A82 through Glencoe for instance biglaugh

for example


https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Edited by ninepoint2 on Wednesday 12th December 22:44

S5man

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44 posts

86 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Just got back from the test drive and it was insanely quick. Incredible car.
This particular car has no options on it at all though. How much is that going to effect the resale?

I am so torn right now. Heart is saying you only ,live once.
Head is saying be sensible and get an E43 Merc or something similar

S5man

Original Poster:

44 posts

86 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Just got back from the test drive and it was insanely quick. Incredible car.
This particular car has no options on it at all though. How much is that going to effect the resale?

I am so torn right now. Heart is saying you only ,live once.
Head is saying be sensible and get an E43 Merc or something similar

Discombobulate

4,836 posts

186 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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S5man said:
Just got back from the test drive and it was insanely quick. Incredible car.
This particular car has no options on it at all though. How much is that going to effect the resale?

I am so torn right now. Heart is saying you only ,live once.
Head is saying be sensible and get an E43 Merc or something similar
If options matter, find the ones you want. If you don't want any, buy this one.
E43? Compared to a RS6? No thanks smile

CSLchappie

436 posts

204 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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S5man said:
Just got back from the test drive and it was insanely quick. Incredible car.
This particular car has no options on it at all though. How much is that going to effect the resale?

I am so torn right now. Heart is saying you only ,live once.
Head is saying be sensible and get an E43 Merc or something similar
I've been watching the market like a hawk for a long time now and I'd say they are very, very spec (inc colour) sensitive. Coming from BMW land, a base level RS6 feels a bit poverty spec in comparison with the best wheels as an option and no pano roof, HUD or DRC as standard (my skewed perspective after 8 years in an E60/61 M5) Sepang Blue and Nardo Grey seem popular colours, Misano is a bit marmite and many Misano cars for sale on Autotrader today have literally been on the market for months (another reason why I backed out on a Misano PE purchase)

Personally I wouldn't want to buy a car like this with without all the toys, pano and HUD are base level requirements IMHO, but as said that's just my perspective.

I keep looking longingly at that Sepang Blue RS6 in stock currently at Audi Nottingham, someone please buy it as it ticks all of my buying criteria apart from not being a PE, it also has a 5 year warranty (but that is probably a bonus hangover from my M5 owning years!)

JBE68

246 posts

148 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Nothing comes close to the RS6 for character, poise, power or experience




Ahbefive

11,657 posts

172 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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JBE68 said:
Nothing comes close to the RS6 for character, poise, power or experience
Lovely car but surely nobody is mad enough to think what you just wrote. rofl

JBE68

246 posts

148 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Ahbefive said:
Lovely car but surely nobody is mad enough to think what you just wrote. rofl
Admittedly everyone is entitled to their opinion. Mine is simply based upon previous experience latterly with an AMVantage - great to look at and drive; about as sturdy as a chocolate fire guard and a Porsche997GTS. - rock solid, ultra reliable; duller than a bag of hammers

This RS6 with 700bhp, ceramics brakes, Akrapovic exhaust is the only car that I can take on a business meeting, around the Nurburgring, skiing, shopping and the Labrador fits. I just think it is perfect. Discreet with bags of character.

The only other car I would have bought would have been the last C63AMG 507 edition.

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

172 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Indeed, I guess your only providing your opinion. They are lovely cars but.....

S5man

Original Poster:

44 posts

86 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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CSLchappie said:
S5man said:
Just got back from the test drive and it was insanely quick. Incredible car.
This particular car has no options on it at all though. How much is that going to effect the resale?

I am so torn right now. Heart is saying you only ,live once.
Head is saying be sensible and get an E43 Merc or something similar
I've been watching the market like a hawk for a long time now and I'd say they are very, very spec (inc colour) sensitive. Coming from BMW land, a base level RS6 feels a bit poverty spec in comparison with the best wheels as an option and no pano roof, HUD or DRC as standard (my skewed perspective after 8 years in an E60/61 M5) Sepang Blue and Nardo Grey seem popular colours, Misano is a bit marmite and many Misano cars for sale on Autotrader today have literally been on the market for months (another reason why I backed out on a Misano PE purchase)

Personally I wouldn't want to buy a car like this with without all the toys, pano and HUD are base level requirements IMHO, but as said that's just my perspective.

I keep looking longingly at that Sepang Blue RS6 in stock currently at Audi Nottingham, someone please buy it as it ticks all of my buying criteria apart from not being a PE, it also has a 5 year warranty (but that is probably a bonus hangover from my M5 owning years!)
Well it’s a PE model and is sebang blue. I don’t really use much of a cars extras. I’m very much. Drive it and listen to music so I don’t care much about the extras. I only really care about the aesthetic extras.

But I suspect I’m in the minority.

kmpowell

2,926 posts

228 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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CSLchappie said:
I've been watching the market like a hawk for a long time now and I'd say they are very, very spec (inc colour) sensitive.
Totally Agree. I had a RS4 (B8) and was about to jump into a C7 RS6 so I watched the market for some time.

Colour; Nardo Sepang or Panther are the three most sought after colours (excluding anything individual such as Nogaro, Merlin etc, obviously!).

Options: Black or Alu Styling Pack, DRC and the Pan Roof are seen as total must have items. The other is the Sports Exhaust, however the PE gets the Sports Exhaust as standard.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 16th December 2018
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That advice to check prices on WBAC would mean you’d never buy a car. The offer at least 25% less than what you can usually buy a car for.