Parking in gear or in neutral

Parking in gear or in neutral

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ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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I am old school, always in gear. Drove my SiL's car recently and parked it up. A few days later I learned that he ran over my daughter's foot. He started the car as she was putting their son in his car seat. The car lurched forward and rear tyre rolled over her foot. SiL uses handbrake only! Further reason to always depress the clutch when starting so this can't happen. No lasting damage thankfully!

mrtwisty

3,057 posts

165 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Hol said:
HTP99 said:
Never leave my car in gear when parked up and never been taught too, I always assumed it was more of an older generation thing; my dad did it.
I think you are right.

Neither of my boys do it. Handbrakes seem more reliable now.
Yep, totally not worth the extra 2 seconds it takes to leave a car in gear. Modern handbrakes never, ever fail...

TooLateForAName

4,746 posts

184 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Well in 6 months I've had two people park up the hill from my house and have the handbrakes fail to hold. £2.5k damage to my car and a hole in the side of my house.

Both young lads who had never heard of putting cars in gear on a slope.

IntriguedUser

989 posts

121 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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had two cars where the handbrake snapped, which meant I had to leave it in gear, I never fixed the cables and just got used to leaving in gear. Still do it now with all cars.

deltashad

6,731 posts

197 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Outside my apartment you have to leave the car out of gear with the handbrake off so people can move the cars around to get out.

Matthen

1,292 posts

151 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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mrtwisty said:
Hol said:
HTP99 said:
Never leave my car in gear when parked up and never been taught too, I always assumed it was more of an older generation thing; my dad did it.
I think you are right.

Neither of my boys do it. Handbrakes seem more reliable now.
Yep, totally not worth the extra 2 seconds it takes to leave a car in gear. Modern handbrakes never, ever fail...
Time is saved leaving it in gear. Arrive in gear, turn engine off. Time is saved not selecting neutral unnecessarily.

I do however select neutral before starting - but I check that its in neutral even if it is already, so no time is lost.

There are no reasons not to - it's safer and there are no downsides. If someone crashes into it hard enough to damage the drivetrain, chances are its uneconomic to repair anyway.

HTP99

22,539 posts

140 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Some of you are really unlucky or live in a strange part of the world as in my 23 years of driving I've never had a handbrake fail on me and I've never heard of it happening to anyone that I know.

Ed/L152

480 posts

237 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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ChasW said:
I am old school, always in gear. Drove my SiL's car recently and parked it up. A few days later I learned that he ran over my daughter's foot. He started the car as she was putting their son in his car seat. The car lurched forward and rear tyre rolled over her foot. SiL uses handbrake only! Further reason to always depress the clutch when starting so this can't happen. No lasting damage thankfully!
I would never start a car if someone is stood at an open door. I'll wait until they're in and door shut, or stepped away.

FK

161 posts

64 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Afternoon all,

If it's on any kind of incline, handbrake and in gear.

If it's outside my house (which it was 10 mins ago and hopefully it still is....), then just a handbrake should suffice.

Always turned towards the kerb should the worst somehow happen

ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Ed/L152 said:
ChasW said:
I am old school, always in gear. Drove my SiL's car recently and parked it up. A few days later I learned that he ran over my daughter's foot. He started the car as she was putting their son in his car seat. The car lurched forward and rear tyre rolled over her foot. SiL uses handbrake only! Further reason to always depress the clutch when starting so this can't happen. No lasting damage thankfully!
I would never start a car if someone is stood at an open door. I'll wait until they're in and door shut, or stepped away.
Likewise.

pti

1,698 posts

144 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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I literally never use the handbrake

Nealio

307 posts

193 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Dave. said:
I was one told by a self proclaimed petrolhead that I was damaging my gearbox with all the weight of the car resting on the gear. Same guy also said it should be in 5th/6th as higher gears are harder to turn.
Other way round if the wheels are driving the engine, 1st is the 'highest' gear.

zedx19

2,744 posts

140 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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pti said:
I literally never use the handbrake
How do you get laid?

technobob

232 posts

240 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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I have had an addendum to my cars handbook from Ford, informing us that we need to park manual cars in reverse, or 1st with wheels pointing towards appropriate kerb and to make sure autos are in Park.

Apparently there have been several instances of cars with rear disc brakes rolling away when the brakes have cooled.

greenarrow

3,587 posts

117 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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My car has the dreaded auto handbrake so I would never leave it in neutral!!

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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So, in summary, as usual:

"my way is best, anecdata says so!"

"no, your way is unnecessary, MY anecdata trumps yours"

"erm, highway code"

"old fashioned"

"bloke down the pub said..."

"blah blah blah..."

In conclusion: OK, then, thanks for playing (everyone carries on doing what they've always done)

Nealio

307 posts

193 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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technobob said:
I have had an addendum to my cars handbook from Ford, informing us that we need to park manual cars in reverse, or 1st with wheels pointing towards appropriate kerb and to make sure autos are in Park.

Apparently there have been several instances of cars with rear disc brakes rolling away when the brakes have cooled.
In San Francisco (known for its steep hills) you risk getting a ticket if you leave your car parked up without turning the wheels to the kerb.

mrtwisty

3,057 posts

165 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Matthen said:
mrtwisty said:
Hol said:
HTP99 said:
Never leave my car in gear when parked up and never been taught too, I always assumed it was more of an older generation thing; my dad did it.
I think you are right.

Neither of my boys do it. Handbrakes seem more reliable now.
Yep, totally not worth the extra 2 seconds it takes to leave a car in gear. Modern handbrakes never, ever fail...
Time is saved leaving it in gear. Arrive in gear, turn engine off. Time is saved not selecting neutral unnecessarily.

I do however select neutral before starting - but I check that its in neutral even if it is already, so no time is lost.

There are no reasons not to - it's safer and there are no downsides. If someone crashes into it hard enough to damage the drivetrain, chances are its uneconomic to repair anyway.
Parrot?

gregpot2000

233 posts

144 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Always leave in gear and always have. it just doesn't feel "safe" enough to me without living in the Pennines! When I learnt in 2006 though was always told to leave in neutral, which a lot of my mates still do and won't be told otherwise

I've had Audi's for the last 8 years, and on all of them you need to fully depress the clutch to start the engine, so there's no danger of lurching forward, and no negative risks to leaving in gear either

Handbrakes never fail? Plenty of stories of auto ones failing, and who can honestly say they haven't noticed manual handbrakes deteriorate over time? it's a common advisory on the MOT. I certainty wouldn't trust the handbrake on my girlfriends 2003 Micra on a steep hill, any less than being on the top ratchet it creeps slightly

TRIUMPHBULLET

699 posts

113 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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I have always left car with handbrake on - I see it as insurance,probably never needed but you never know.