RE: BMW M340i xDrive: PH Trade-Off

[Pistonheader101]

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Cheaper than I thought then but I was nosing round the local BMW place where I got mine and they were nothing like that cheap !

Suspect though, a new model may take bit longer to depreciate like that, might be a little longer to drop to 20 to 25, those are still 25 plus.


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Yea no doubt due to the 2019 mode just round the corner - although it does make this f30 generation fairly good value for money.

[J4CKO]

I made a bit more effort to not put my foot down too often and got 26 mpg going into Manchester and back earlier, got stuck in the roadworks in Salford for a while which hurt it, 30 mpg is possible but it relies on not too much traffic and a lot of restraint, with a few longer journeys.

It said 18.8 MPG prior to resetting it

It costs just over £50 to fill, I fill it every week and a bit, not bothered, and it will do superb mpg on a run but enjoy the performance and get stuck in traffic, dont think stuff like this will be super economical, mine does have a tuning box but it hasnt made much difference.

[ninepoint2]

J4CKO said:

I made a bit more effort to not put my foot down too often and got 26 mpg going into Manchester and back earlier, got stuck in the roadworks in Salford for a while which hurt it, 30 mpg is possible but it relies on not too much traffic and a lot of restraint, with a few longer journeys.

It said 18.8 MPG prior to resetting it

It costs just over £50 to fill, I fill it every week and a bit, not bothered, and it will do superb mpg on a run but enjoy the performance and get stuck in traffic, dont think stuff like this will be super economical, mine does have a tuning box but it hasnt made much difference.

I kinda struggle with this MPG obsession, one buys a fairly powerful car, with a larger than average engine..which means one might get a bit over zealous with the throttle..so why complain about MPG, if that matters buy a Prius..Buying a known gas guzzling car and complaining about MPG is akin to buying a boat and getting it wet..sorry rant over.

[J4CKO]

ninepoint2 said:

J4CKO said:

I made a bit more effort to not put my foot down too often and got 26 mpg going into Manchester and back earlier, got stuck in the roadworks in Salford for a while which hurt it, 30 mpg is possible but it relies on not too much traffic and a lot of restraint, with a few longer journeys.

It said 18.8 MPG prior to resetting it

It costs just over £50 to fill, I fill it every week and a bit, not bothered, and it will do superb mpg on a run but enjoy the performance and get stuck in traffic, dont think stuff like this will be super economical, mine does have a tuning box but it hasnt made much difference.

I kinda struggle with this MPG obsession, one buys a fairly powerful car, with a larger than average engine..which means one might get a bit over zealous with the throttle..so why complain about MPG, if that matters buy a Prius..Buying a known gas guzzling car and complaining about MPG is akin to buying a boat and getting it wet..sorry rant over.

Indeed, all my cars tend to be crap on fuel, down to the cars I buy, and, it has to be said the common denominator is me.

Just trying to get the point over that these cars can be fairly economical but don’t bank on it, being careful I got 26 going into Manchester, could have got a little more but it’s winter, nose to tail traffic in a 1.5 tonne six cylinder car with 370 ish bhp allegedly, amazing it does that many really. Anyone going to a 340i from a 320D is going to have a shock.

[jl4069]

The author says this new 340ix would not be able to keep up with a evo x looks to be wrong. The evo x would only do better if the road was seriously narrow. If you read Evo magazine at the time, they routinely compared subarus and Mitsu's all the time and never was the either faster on real roads than the other. The new Focus RS, the new Civic type r, for example are both as fast as a evo x. A lot of this depends on the road and the conditions.

[J4CKO]

jl4069 said:

The author says this new 340ix would not be able to keep up with a evo x looks to be wrong. The evo x would only do better if the road was seriously narrow. If you read Evo magazine at the time, they routinely compared subarus and Mitsu's all the time and never was the either faster on real roads than the other. The new Focus RS, the new Civic type r, for example are both as fast as a evo x. A lot of this depends on the road and the conditions.

And how much of a lunatic the driver is.

I tried driving for economy today on my commute, I got 26 MPG, no hard acceleration or excessive speed, seven miles, traffic wasnt too bad, so could see over thirty I guess if it was a bit longer and involved some motorway.

Doing that day in day out would require patience.

[MG7]

If you buy an E90 M3 from Evans Halshaw, you need your bumps testing!

[J4CKO]

Good review of the 3 series range here, interior looks great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy1lHtzz7ms

340i did 0-60 in 4.2 and a quarter mile in 12.6

[Driver101]

J4CKO said:

Good review of the 3 series range here, interior looks great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy1lHtzz7ms

340i did 0-60 in 4.2 and a quarter mile in 12.6

0-100mph in 9.9secs is impressive for this class.

I would have expected the quarter mile to be a little faster due to the 4wd with 382bhp. The time is 0.1 faster than a M140i and the terminal speed identical.

[Onehp]

The other way around perhaps for me. No. 1 for me is a usuable car that handles really well. The latter being the hard part.

As such and if future reviews show that the suspension keeps it together on bumpy b roads, this car could be the go to option for a fast family BMW.

A smaller, lighter, yet big and fast enough cut price alternative to a (too big) M5 (xdrive nowadays)...

[Arsecati]

ZX10R NIN said:

If this is going to be 50k surely PH should be showing what good nearly new (a maximum of 3 years old) metal you can get for the similar money as someone willing to shell out 50k won't be looking for a car at half the price but they could be tempted by a nearly new option:

2017 M3 Competition Pack with M Performance & Carbon Pack

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

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2016 M5 Comp Pack

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2017 Alfa Quadrifoglio

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

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2018 Audi S6

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

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2017 S4

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

2017 C63 S

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2016 VXR8 GTS but I'd lose the stripes.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

I think you're missing point of article. It's not aimed at those who can afford £50k on a motor, it's aimed at those of us who would LOVE to spend £50k on a new motor, but only half that amount of dosh to spend - which would be a lot more of us!!! 😉

[Charlie_1]

ninepoint2 said:

I kinda struggle with this MPG obsession, one buys a fairly powerful car, with a larger than average engine..which means one might get a bit over zealous with the throttle..so why complain about MPG, if that matters buy a Prius..Buying a known gas guzzling car and complaining about MPG is akin to buying a boat and getting it wet..sorry rant over.

This is probally the most senseible thing I have ever read on here , consider me a kindred soul , MPG who gives ****

[Pistonheader101]

Mpg aka man maths is a way of justifying a car if you’re doing a fair few miles.

I only drive 3 miles a day, so not something I need to worry about. However someone who does 40 miles a day might need to have some level of acceptable mpg.

[Onehp]

I love driving, and also do quite some miles by necessity, and gas is roughly a third/half of the ownership cost, so it does have some relevance for sure. +-1mpg doesn't matter, 10mpg more or less does and will make an actual, financial, difference...

That said, if I had a 3mile (1,5 each way) commute, I would ride one of my bicycles if possible at all, ICE doesn't get anywhere near on temp and wouldn't be faster either... but that's me.

[J4CKO]

Driver101 said:

J4CKO said:

Good review of the 3 series range here, interior looks great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy1lHtzz7ms

340i did 0-60 in 4.2 and a quarter mile in 12.6

0-100mph in 9.9secs is impressive for this class.

I would have expected the quarter mile to be a little faster due to the 4wd with 382bhp. The time is 0.1 faster than a M140i and the terminal speed identical.

Same engine more or less, perhaps a smidge heavier plus some extra losses through the drivetrain, plenty fast enough and with a few bolt ons, 450 bhp and will do it whatever the weather, a very compelling package.

[P-Jay]

0-62mph: 4.4sec
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
MPG: 37.7
CO2: 172g/km
Price: circa-£47,000 (tbc)


0-62mph: 4.9sec
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
MPG: 22.8
CO2: 295g/km
Price: £23,557

That's progress - less power, but slightly quicker (off the line at least), 40% better fuel economy and 40% less CO2.

[Pizzaeatingking]

Strange comparisons, my first thought was the S4 would be more of a natural comparison for 1/2 price? S3 is more of a hot hatch 1 series rival, Evo doesn't strike me as the same kinda car you'd be considering if you were looking at a quick 3 series. I might be bias but the earlier suggestion of a current model 340i isn't a bad shout.

I bought a current model 340i this year, although I did consider lots of other cars, the 3er nailed the ultimate daily for me. It's has a little more of a grown up feel about it compared to the various hot hatch offerings and while I was very close to going for a E90 M3, but I wanted an auto and preferred the ZF box over the DCT for daily driving which is what almost all my mileage is. In the end the offer of a new 340i for the price I bought it for was too much to resist.

The new 3 series looks great though, interior looks like a nice step up and I'm liking the exterior styling in photos at least. Performance wise it looks similar to my model with the MPPSK, perhaps a little more power, although some are hitting low 4 second 0-60 in F30 340i, I suppose the official figures are conservative though. This might be a bit controversial but I don't get the current trend for making every model 4wd either, I get that it makes the 0-60 figures look a bit better but in reality, driving on the roads, does it offer that much? I'm not so sure it does.

[aaron_2000]

This seems like a lot of car for the money, albeit not as quick as the 340i

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

[Pizzaeatingking]

aaron_2000 said:

This seems like a lot of car for the money, albeit not as quick as the 340i

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Similar line of thought, Superb 280 was on my list too

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

A map on either of those will get the power up in the high 300s fairly easily I think (for those of us who like a tweak or two)