RE: Jensen Interceptor MkII: Spotted

RE: Jensen Interceptor MkII: Spotted

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2xChevrons

3,189 posts

80 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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I like Interceptors. I've only driven one, which was a 'Mark 1-and-a-half' - a brief period in 1968 when the cars had the body and interior of a Mark 1 but the steering rack and brakes of a Mark 2. I was expecting it to be like an American muscle car - all straight-line speed and otherwise soft and wallowy. In fact it was surprisingly tightly-sprung and quite well balanced dynamically, although it's certainly no sports car and still falls into the mould of comfortable GT. Not that fast for all its power and thirst but truely effortless with completely linear and constant acceleration regardless of road speed, engine speed or gear. And it sounded like a whole flock of Morgan Three-Wheelers.

I drove it on a warm spring day and it was like a four-wheeled sauna. Partly because of that wrapround rear screen and partly due to the huge heat-soak coming through the transmission tunnel. Despite having two massive electric radiator fans with four metal blades a-piece it got progressively hotter at idle, right up to a hair's breadth below the red line on the temperature gauge. As soon as you started moving again it would cool down. It also suffered very badly from vapour lock. But as a classic to cover long distances at high speeds in - superb.

A friend of mine briefly owned a 440ci 4-barrel MkIII, which needed a good service and tune-up. With it idling in his back garden while we set up the timing and the carb mixture it slurped its way through a third of a tank of petrol.

Turbobanana said:
It beggars belief that anyone could let a car get into such a state, even if they didn't like cars, or there was some political (or emotional) reason not to sell it.
People can be strange about such things. In the village where my parents lived there was a guy who owned an MGB GT. Absolutely nothing special - a white, V-reg, 'rubber bumper' GT on Rostyle wheels with 'deck chair' seats and a Webasto roof. But he was obviously fond of it and it was a tidy, straightforward example. He would take it to work and back in the summer and you'd see him cleaning it and doing some tinkering at the weekends. Unfortunately he died suddenly in his 50s and his wife couldn't bear to part with the car. My dad (who had an MGB himself at the time) enquired about buying it and she gently refused, saying that she didn't want to get rid of a car that her late husband had been so fond of and and lots of good memories for her. So it sat outside on the driveway for years, exactly where he had last parked it up. The tyres went flat, it became covered in moss and bird spatter, the scuttle filled with leaves and then the Webasto began to perish and peel. Then rust began to bloom out of all the usual MGB places. Then, I assume, a rear spring mount rusted through because it began sagging at one rear corner with the tyre pressed into the top of the wheel arch. It sat there, entirely unused and unloved, for a decade before she sold the house and presumably had someone cart the 'B off to the scrapyard because it was now worthless. I can't believe that that's how he would have wanted his car to be treated or that having it mouldering away on the driveway was what he would have deemed a fitting memorial to him but, entirely understandably, logic or even a degree of emotional seperation, doesn't come into these matters.

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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F1GTRUeno said:
Dr Interceptor said:
Plug Life said:
Gopping design especially the rear quarter...
I've honestly never heard someone describe an Interceptor as 'gopping'
They're fking horribly gopping.
In what way exactly..? Genuine question btw, not having a pop wink

I've always loved the shape, from some angles it can look like it's dragging its arse on the ground but I think the bodywork is beautifully styled from end to end with just the right amount of detailing around the doors and windows.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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I'm with those who think that the Interceptor is one of the best looking cars ever made

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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That car isn't quite correct for an Interceptor II.

The vents in the front wings incorporate the indicators which was a MK III feature (they were mounted on the wings, just behind the vents previously| and it also has a MKIII dash.

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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P5BNij said:
It had been there for twenty years at the very least, at first uncovered then a tarp was draped over it, every time I drove past it seemed to sink lower and lower. Repeated knocks on the door by various people were met with ''it's not for sale, I'm going to restore it one day''. Very soon after it was taken away a black Bentley Turbo appeared in the same spot, it too hasn't moved as far as I can see.

On a lighter note here's Ginger Baker enjoying one of his FFs...



He was the only private individual ever to have owned three FF's during the time they were in production (1966-71.....but only 320 built). Owned that many because he kept crashing them and rather than wait for them to be repaired he just went out and bought replacements!

That's quite something as it, I think, was the third most expensive new car you could buy; beaten out only by the Rolls-Royce Cornice and Lamborghini Muira, I believe.

bloomen

6,893 posts

159 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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I've never really gotten these.

They largely seem like a carefully tuned way to bankrupt owner after owner. By now that car must've broken a thousand futures.

SAS Tom

3,403 posts

174 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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I hired one for a couple of days for my dads birthday a few months ago. It was great fun to drive and sounded awesome. It was surprisingly effortless to drive and just wanted to cruise although it handled reasonably well.

Ownership wouldn’t be for me though. After a days driving you stank of exhaust fumes. Messing around with Lead additive when filling up and messing around trying to get spare parts would be a pain.

FourWheelDrift

88,512 posts

284 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Pull out the old V8 and gearbox, crate it up and store it. Then get a modern LS2 Chevrolet engine in with the gearbox, update the brakes and cooling and Robert is your reliable Uncle.

https://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/217...

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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SAS Tom said:


I hired one for a couple of days for my dads birthday a few months ago. It was great fun to drive and sounded awesome. It was surprisingly effortless to drive and just wanted to cruise although it handled reasonably well.

Ownership wouldn’t be for me though. After a days driving you stank of exhaust fumes. Messing around with Lead additive when filling up and messing around trying to get spare parts would be a pain.
Parts shouldn't be a problem these days, Martin Robey in Nuneaton has all the original factory tooling and makes new parts to order.

Despite all the down sides to ownership I still want one.

pozi

1,723 posts

187 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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coppice said:
A friend had the even rarer FF (with 4wd and abs, which was extraordinary for a 1967 car) . It made a fabulous noise and on a good day did double figures to the gallon.. Just .

But the one I really adored was its predecessor, the CV8. It had looks which polarised opinion perhaps but I thought it looked great. We took it to a RWYB session at York where it happily ran mid 15 secs quarters and got an amazing amount of attention
CV8's were built to be used, not me but someone I know who took his to Bonneville this year

https://worldsfastestjensen.co.uk/

Edit, this would have been a picture if his clunky web site would actually allow it rolleyes


Edited by pozi on Wednesday 19th December 20:36

FourWheelDrift

88,512 posts

284 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Wow I haven't seen a "don't hotlink" image for years. Is that from an old 1990s Tripod hosted website?

SAS Tom

3,403 posts

174 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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P5BNij said:
SAS Tom said:


I hired one for a couple of days for my dads birthday a few months ago. It was great fun to drive and sounded awesome. It was surprisingly effortless to drive and just wanted to cruise although it handled reasonably well.

Ownership wouldn’t be for me though. After a days driving you stank of exhaust fumes. Messing around with Lead additive when filling up and messing around trying to get spare parts would be a pain.
Parts shouldn't be a problem these days, Martin Robey in Nuneaton has all the original factory tooling and makes new parts to order.

Despite all the down sides to ownership I still want one.
It was a lovely thing. I couldn’t believe how well it drove for a 50 year old car. I was expecting it to be much harder than it was. It was weird how it felt like a big car but compared to my Skoda Fabia it seemed tiny although a bit long. Visibility was great especially through that huge rear window.

The blowers were interesting. You got warm or warmer unless you were doing over 50 and actually getting some air through the car. Sat in traffic you could feel the heat coming through the transmission tunnel. Also for such a big looking car it was very narrow inside due to that engine.

Fuel economy was better than expected at 18mpg on a run although in traffic it was more like 8 or less.

ruhall

506 posts

146 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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AJL308 said:
That car isn't quite correct for an Interceptor II.

The vents in the front wings incorporate the indicators which was a MK III feature (they were mounted on the wings, just behind the vents previously| and it also has a MKIII dash.
Good spot - didn't notice at first. Wheels also MK111.

Seats and door trims are Mark 11. Makes you wonder how much of the front end is original.

It does appear to be sitting a little high at the rear but many have had fairly major restoration work over the years and no doubt new springs etc.. Lovely cars, though, and I've never heard them referred to as 'gopping' before (whatever that means wink )


GT6 Jonsey

845 posts

122 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
Pull out the old V8 and gearbox, crate it up and store it. Then get a modern LS2 Chevrolet engine in with the gearbox, update the brakes and cooling and Robert is your reliable Uncle.

https://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/217...
V10 resto mod for me please
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6UkRTa-zKcQ

Mr Tidy

22,313 posts

127 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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GT6 Jonsey said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Pull out the old V8 and gearbox, crate it up and store it. Then get a modern LS2 Chevrolet engine in with the gearbox, update the brakes and cooling and Robert is your reliable Uncle.

https://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/217...
V10 resto mod for me please
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6UkRTa-zKcQ
Back in the early 80s a work colleague of mine had a 1973 red SP - one of the coolest cars ever!

But given it's thirst he had a Renault R8 to commute. laugh

A Jensen doesn't deserve an LS of any description - if a transplant is required surely it needs something Mopar? After all they build some pretty potent engines these days.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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bloomen said:
I've never really gotten these.

They largely seem like a carefully tuned way to bankrupt owner after owner. By now that car must've broken a thousand futures.
I think you are getting them mixed up with fast fiats or TVRs !! looked after to avoid rot ,a simple cheap to repair drive train
and a few specialists I would say they would be one of the cheaper exotic classics to run ...

CharlieAlphaMike

1,137 posts

105 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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Turbobanana said:
P5BNij said:
Yes that's the one...







Compared to Astons, Ferraris and Porsches of the era the Interceptor in the OP seems very good value if it's as solid as it looks. I think the colour might grow on me, but I prefer the darker blues. Then again right now I'd take any solid Interceptor I could get my hands on! Occasionally, when the need for a 'fix' arises, if I'm in the vicinity I'll pop into Cropredy Bridge Garage for sly shuftie at the project cars they have parked round the back.... ''just turning the van round mate, sorry... ''

Edited by P5BNij on Wednesday 19th December 14:29
I thought you were joking about "scraping it up off the pavement": I know now that you weren't.

It beggars belief that anyone could let a car get into such a state, even if they didn't like cars, or there was some political (or emotional) reason not to sell it.

I don't like BMWs, but I'd never let one rot in my garden.
Unbelievably, there's a Bentley now rotting away gently outside that same house.

vixen1700

22,907 posts

270 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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F1GTRUeno said:
Dr Interceptor said:
Plug Life said:
Gopping design especially the rear quarter...
I've honestly never heard someone describe an Interceptor as 'gopping'
They're fking horribly gopping.
Kids, these days eh? laugh

Sebring440

2,008 posts

96 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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ruhall said:
AJL308 said:
That car isn't quite correct for an Interceptor II.

The vents in the front wings incorporate the indicators which was a MK III feature (they were mounted on the wings, just behind the vents previously| and it also has a MKIII dash.
Good spot - didn't notice at first. Wheels also MK111.

Seats and door trims are Mark 11. Makes you wonder how much of the front end is original.

It does appear to be sitting a little high at the rear but many have had fairly major restoration work over the years and no doubt new springs etc.. Lovely cars, though, and I've never heard them referred to as 'gopping' before (whatever that means wink )
Mk III wheels are very common on Mk IIs, and you'll see them on the Mk I model as well. The front wings will have had "half-wing" repair panels fitted which tend to be for the Mk III model thus the lack of indicator repeater light behind the wing vent. I'd have kept the Mk II vents though, the Mk III vents (as fitted to this example) are heavy (even though they are cast alloy, they are substantial cast alloy).

The car is not fitted with a Mk III dash — the dash fitted is correct for the year of car (late Mk II).



mhurley

823 posts

133 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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I always thought the rare coupe version looked cool