RE: Lamborghini Urus: Dune buggy

[E65Ross]

So, a £200k Lambo SUV is playing to the "mass market". Right.....

Also - I'm willing to bet my house that engineering and design work that has gone into the Lambo FROM ITS BASE (using the same VAG platform) but having to design the body, brakes, suspension, interior, engine/gearbox tune/mapping, aerodynamics etc will be greater than the changes Jeep had to make to get that engine into that car.

It seems people think that all VAG did was take a Toureg, change the body and hey presto, you have a Urus....

Edited by E65Ross on Thursday 27th December 19:59

[Rumblestripe]

E65Ross said:

Rumblestripe said:

Pommy said:

Rumblestripe said:

Pommy said:

dunnoreally said:

I get why it exists and who it's for and I'm sure it's probably very good at what it does. But, it's still striking that nowadays, if I needed a 4x4 and wanted the most frothing lunatic available, money no object, on paper it looks to me like I should drive straight past the local Lambo dealership and go buy a Jeep GC Trackhawk.

Why?

I know this one.

Is it because it is hideous? Is it because it is brash and uncouth? Is it because it would look ridiculous in a Supermarket Car Park? Is it because it embodies the "look how RICH I am" mentality of our age?

If I see a nice car, a car that I will never (short of a major lottery win) be able to afford, a Porsche or an Aston perhaps, I will admire it and if I happen upon the owner/driver opine as such to them. If I see one of these, I would try not to be caught looking at the thing and would actively avoid the owner.

Yes, you can argue that choice and taste are subjective and that it sells to its market. For me the one positive that I can think of is that it is like a very expensive "COCKWOMBLE" flag and aids identification of such folk.

So you would actually carry such a low opinion of someone who had one to the point that you would be that judgemental as to avoid them?

How ironic that you would be such a shallow person because you would believe that anyone who drives an Urus could be such a shallow person.

Bonkers.

Not really, cars are designed to appeal to a certain demographic. Obviously not all Urus owners will be cockwombles but a sufficiently high percentage to justify my giving them a polite wide berth. When you see a knackered old hatchback with a drainpipe exhaust do you think, "I see Granny is off to church"? No you don't, people choose their car to reflect their personality and needs and by reverse analysis you can pretty reliably predict the personality of the driver of a particular vehicle.

The fact you would ignore the owner of a car you aspire to own just smacks of absolute insecurity to me (and others, as someone else has mentioned it).

Firstly I don't aspire to own a Urus, for the reasons I stated. Secondly, do you honestly think these sell on the quality of the engineering?

E65Ross said:

It seems people think that all VAG did was take a Toureg, change the body and hey presto, you have a Urus....

You think they didn't?

[E65Ross]

Rumblestripe said:

E65Ross said:

It seems people think that all VAG did was take a Toureg, change the body and hey presto, you have a Urus....

You think they didn't?

Can you please tell me which Toureg has the same brakes? Interior? Suspension set up? Wheels?

[dunnoreally]

E65Ross said:

So, a £200k Lambo SUV is playing to the "mass market". Right.....

Edited by E65Ross on Thursday 27th December 19:59

Relative to a Hurracan or an Aventador? Absolutely. Perhaps I was wrong to call it the mass market, but this car was very obviously made to appeal to a much wider group of people looking for something softer and easier to live with than Lamborghini's other models. And like I say, it sounds like they've done a very good job of it and fair play to them.

But it's also the complete opposite of the approach taken by Jeep which, to my mind, makes the Trackhawk cooler. It just does.

[TheGreatSoprendo]

E65Ross said:

Can you please tell me which Toureg has the same brakes? Interior? Suspension set up? Wheels?

And, of course, which Tourag has a 650bhp petrol engine. AFAIK, all Tourag's now come with 3.0 TDi's?

[GhellopeSir]

Seen a few of these on the roads now. Feels strange not getting all uppity and excited about seeing a lambo roll past.

Same with all the 'exotic' SUVs, it's just another take on a Range Rover, but less practical.

[E65Ross]

GhellopeSir said:

Seen a few of these on the roads now. Feels strange not getting all uppity and excited about seeing a lambo roll past.

Same with all the 'exotic' SUVs, it's just another take on a Range Rover, but less practical.

But what if someone doesn't need something as practical as a range rover, wants something sportier to drive and is less ubiquitous than a range rover?

[SidewaysSi]

E65Ross said:

GhellopeSir said:

Seen a few of these on the roads now. Feels strange not getting all uppity and excited about seeing a lambo roll past.

Same with all the 'exotic' SUVs, it's just another take on a Range Rover, but less practical.

But what if someone doesn't need something as practical as a range rover, wants something sportier to drive and is less ubiquitous than a range rover?

Get an Aventador.

[E65Ross]

SidewaysSi said:

E65Ross said:

GhellopeSir said:

Seen a few of these on the roads now. Feels strange not getting all uppity and excited about seeing a lambo roll past.

Same with all the 'exotic' SUVs, it's just another take on a Range Rover, but less practical.

But what if someone doesn't need something as practical as a range rover, wants something sportier to drive and is less ubiquitous than a range rover?

Get an Aventador.

Yes, because that's just fantastic at carrying 4 people

Nothing from the "usual" German or American brands is unique enough for those wanting exclusivity, Ferrari make the GTC I guess, McLaren don't make anything, all the others which are large enough to carry decent amounts of luggage (ie bigger than a saloon) and carry 4 adults are either not as sporty, or not as exclusive, save perhaps the GTC. Nothing Aston Martin makes is practical compared to this either.

There is not really a huge amount on the market filling this niche to be honest, and if it sells, then who are we to give a flying fk?

Edited by E65Ross on Friday 28th December 19:37

[footsoldier]

E65Ross said:

But what if someone doesn't need something as practical as a range rover, wants something sportier to drive and is less ubiquitous than a range rover?

There you go...exactly right, and luckily I stopped bothering about what other people think, a long time ago.

Edited by footsoldier on Saturday 29th December 07:37

[Sidney Smut]

Saw one at the Tyne Tunnel last week, wouldn't have noticed it if I hadn't looked at the basket I was putting my money in at the toll booth. Didn't particularly stand out.

[deltashad]

I have strange feeling the majority of owners I will see exiting these will have fake tits, blow up lips and expensive hand bags. But that's eastern Europe.