RE: BMW M2 Competition vs. Porsche Cayman GT4
Discussion
Patrick Bateman said:
Tuvra said:
For driving enjoyment on public roads you really don't have to spend much to get some of the best.
Smacks of jealousy and self-insecurity to me.
Nimerino said:
Love this article, excellent Christmas reading. I swapped a regular M2 for a GT4 after less than 150 miles. Couldn’t live with the traction issues and the feeling that there was no correlation between the two axles through a corner. Also, for something that isn’t especially focused it was very compromised.
But I loved the way it looked and the general attitude of the thing, so the M2C has been high on my list of potential buys. Glad they sorted the chassis out, would love to have one, but doesn’t look like I’ll swap out of the GT4 in order to get it.
Yeap I've just stepped out of an M2 into a Stage 2 Golf R with 400 bhp and a proper 2 piece brake set up. Best move I've ever done....it's a fabulous 'all weather' tool that's is soooo suitable for UK roads and weather conditions and a bargain at that. Unlike my M2 that wanted to throw you into the nearest hedge. But I loved the way it looked and the general attitude of the thing, so the M2C has been high on my list of potential buys. Glad they sorted the chassis out, would love to have one, but doesn’t look like I’ll swap out of the GT4 in order to get it.
The M2 can be hyper nervous with little to zero traction on a good B road in the wet. Great on a dry smooth track if you can exploit it.
I did Combe in the R back before Christmas and it knocked 4 seconds off my lap times at Combe lapping at a very tidy 1.18.
I agree that the M2 is not a standout car for the car park....it will blend in with all the other mundane stuff unless up close. It doesn't have that aura of looking 'special' nor does an M4 compared to the GT4.
Next stop will be possibly new A45 as sadly the GT4 is out of my reach.
Edited by Msportman on Wednesday 2nd January 10:33
greenarrow said:
Anyone on here owned or driven both who could offer an opinion? I still think in some ways the Cayman R is the best looking Cayman they ever made.....
Yes. Owned my Cayman R for 2 years and swapped it for a GT4 just less than a year ago. The Cayman R was worth the premium over the S to me because it was that little bit more focused as a drivers car. As a road car I would say the R was more fun than the GT4 because of its lower grip levels. The passive suspension meant that it was it was entertainingly frisky when pushing on. It would hop and skip over bumpy road surfaces and you could use most of the rev range in the lower gears without getting to silly speeds. The hydraulic steering was a delight. The GT4 on the road is far more composed. And as others have mentioned it is a lot more compliant on bumpy road surfaces, partly because of the active damping and partly because of the much wider tyres which ride small potholes better. On a track the R was both fun and very capable. But if anything, it was too capable for its brakes. They're just too small for what the rest of the car is capable of. However, the GT4 on track is on another level and that's where it really comes alive because that's were you can use its extra power and grip and it has phenomenal brakes in comparison to the R.Was it worth the extra £40K to change? Probably yes for me because my road driving is mostly just to and from the track. Also, the GT4 feels more special than the R even when pootling around at normal speeds. However if it was used just for fun road driving only, the R is probably the best value Porsche you can buy IMO. And the fact that they're still £40K to buy used (which means that they've only lost 30% of their value in 7 years) is testament to the high regard in which they are held.
FerrariGuy007 said:
The best car is actually neither. The winner is walking. If you would just walk those 3 miles instead of hauling your lard arse in an overpriced aluminum cage you probably would not have that huge belly or that bloody heart attack you had or will have.
Wait, what? Just because you have a car, doesn't mean you can't exercise as well 
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