RE: Subaru Legacy Spec B: Spotted

RE: Subaru Legacy Spec B: Spotted

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edh

3,498 posts

269 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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It's my car!

Yes it is a cassette player, and an in-dash 6 CD changer - and bluetooth hands free & music player, so covers most bases..
(I have two flat 6 engined cars with cassette players at the moment smile )

Yes it's done nearly 30 mpg over 6k miles (29.4 on the OBC) and will cruise at 33-34 mpg on the motorway

Ed

ChezzaV8

91 posts

162 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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I bought and estate model of this legacy over the summer. Admittedly it's only the 2.0L so nowhere near as powerful, but it's been a great car so far. I bought it as a hack/mule for my bikes, garden crap etc, so not to mess up any of my other cars and paid a little over £3k, with 86k miles on it and full service history (14 dealer stamps!). One of the things I love is how lively it is compared to modern cars. The steering is really responsive, the handling is fun and you can really throw it around. It's far more rewarding to drive than a new mercedes C/E class which I had considered. The only expense has been a set of all season tyres and a service which I did myself. I've looked at potential things that will need replacing in the next year or so and parts are easy to get hold of and cheap. Much of it's drivetrain is shared with the impreza so there are plenty of places to get these from. I get around 32mpg with sensible driving, and around 36mpg on a long run.

The only thing it's begging for is more power, so I may replace it this year with a turbo version.

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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I remember a couple of years ago seeing a P1 for sale on AutoTrader with the flat 6 in it.

Ved

3,825 posts

175 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Nice cars. I've got a 3.0 Outback with the same engine but with the auto. MPG is 31 max for me sat at 65 and I see 23 on average.

Generally good cars but they aren't cheap to service as they're around £600 for larger services but they rarely go wrong and the manuals like this are quite ok to drive, although not really worth the 6k for such a leggy one here.

CharlieAlphaMike

1,137 posts

105 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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S100HP said:
Interesting. I've often looked at them but for some reason looked away.

do they rust as much as the Impreza?
Mine didn't but it was still relatively new when I sold it. Plus, I always look after my cars. I'm sure you'll find the driving experience completely different to an Impreza but for a big car, I thought it handled well (Bilstein's on the Spec 'B') and was quick enough whilst at the same time being very comfortable. And the Boxer '6' is one of the nicest engines; very quiet, silky smooth and happy to rev when the mood takes you.

Finding one will be the challenge, especially the later face lifted model.

smaybury

87 posts

149 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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CharlieAlphaMike said:
That one doesn't have the H6 engine though frown
I specifically opted for the JDM flat four tubby instead of the UK H6 when I got mine. Faster, lighter, cheaper to tax (import designation, even on a post-06 model).

Honestly, it's a magnificent car. I love it.

edh

3,498 posts

269 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Ved said:
Nice cars. I've got a 3.0 Outback with the same engine but with the auto. MPG is 31 max for me sat at 65 and I see 23 on average.

Generally good cars but they aren't cheap to service as they're around £600 for larger services but they rarely go wrong and the manuals like this are quite ok to drive, although not really worth the 6k for such a leggy one here.
It's £2500..

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

205 months

PH Reportery Lad

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Sorry for price issue all, should be sorted now! Definitely £2.5k...

Skornogr4phy

74 posts

139 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Two new tyres fitted? I'd make sure the rears have been changed pretty recently as well. The centre viscous diff does not like worn tyres from one axle to another. That's a big bill right there.

Roger Irrelevant

2,923 posts

113 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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RB Will said:
Bladedancer said:
As far as fuel consumption goes, on a run you get high 30s
How were you managing that? I have always been a defender of these when people say about dire fuel economy and my real world MPGs were normally above what anyone else gets but even I never got more than 31-32mpg even on a gentle run (had one auto and one manual)
Agree. I've been pleasantly surprised by the mpg of my 3.0 Outback. It's a fairly heavy car with permanent AWD, an old school five-speed slushbox and a 3l petrol engine. 28 mpg average over almost 40k miles seems alright to me - granted it's nowhere near what a modern diesel will get but it's not that much worse than my mate's 530d touring of the same vintage which on paper should be a lot better. However, high 30s on a run seems a bit optimistic. The best I ever saw was 31-and-a-bit on a steady-ish journey down from Inverness to North Yorkshire.

Though I do like the engine a lot a Legacy saloon's not for me. I'm happy to put up with the relative thirst and expensive parts to have a car that is as practical and good off road/in snow as my Outback (important to me as a country bumpkin), but the engine alone - i.e. without the cargo carrying capacity and ground clearance that you sacrifice with the saloon - just wouldn't be enough.


323ti

128 posts

121 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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If I lived in the UK I would have this car - or one like it - in a shot.
Looks ordinary inside and out, but that engine...!
A flat six runs nicer than any other layout except a V12, beating even a straight six for smoothness.
This car has torque absolutely everywhere, and a manual STi gearbox to go with it.
Only thing letting the side down is the 4WD, taking away some oversteery fun and adding weight.
But this really is a 911 Carrera 4 the right way round. And then for that price...

Merry

1,366 posts

188 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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I ran one of these for 12 months or so, highly entertaining. Went to France and back in it, then it served as a family bus.

Unfortunately a couple of rather large bills (3 cats/Lambda sensors, tyres, brake caliper - you get the idea) a few untimely break downs with a 6 month old and an average of 25mpg made it not viable for us anymore.

It's still in the family, it's gone back to my sister who originally had it. I'd like to say I'd have another, but it would have to be an estate. The saloon is a bit of a squeeze once you've put a pram in it.

ericmcn

1,999 posts

97 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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mcpoot said:
That won't impress Eric. It's not a facelift and they are so much rarer!
They are awesome cars whether facelift or not, the last of the facelifts are certainly rare - let me know when you come across a 08/09 manual SpecB saloon like mine, I have never actually seen one in over 2 years which is a far cry from the number of turbocharged German cars you see nowadays (which dont sound half as interesting as a N/A H6)


ericmcn

1,999 posts

97 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Krikkit said:
Looks a great car, but Subaru parts availability puts me off massively: If you wanted to do anything but run this into the ground, it could be very expensive and tricky.
In 2 1/2 years of owning mine I had no issue with parts, they are readily available and sites like partsouq can source and tricky to get bits. In most cases once you treat them with good quality oils they look after themselves, that and compliance bushings which is not much of a biggie. From the tone of somepeople you would think it had the running costs of a Hummer H6.

ericmcn

1,999 posts

97 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Krikkit said:
I'm speaking from running a clutch of Outbacks, so the Legacy may be different (although a lot of parts are common), but things like exhausts, suspension components, gearbox spares, some engine sensors, and interior trim have all proved extremely tricky to get, and hilariously expensive going through Subaru.

In fact, I had to abandon buying an exhaust and make a repair section myself.
any main dealer parts will be expensive - how much for an exhaust for a Lexus IS250 from Lexus? general OEM consumables can be got easily on the web - only fools would get parts direct through Subaru for a car that old

ericmcn

1,999 posts

97 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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RB Will said:
Bladedancer said:
As far as fuel consumption goes, on a run you get high 30s
How were you managing that? I have always been a defender of these when people say about dire fuel economy and my real world MPGs were normally above what anyone else gets but even I never got more than 31-32mpg even on a gentle run (had one auto and one manual)
Was doing high milage over Christmas, got over 30mpg which you dont see very often but its possible and thats fairly brisky driving also (doing silly speeds on the M8 in Ireland) for a 3Litre lump with AWD its pretty impressive, its city driving that kills it




Lotobear

6,281 posts

128 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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I run a late (09) gen 4 Legacy 2.0R, my third Gen 4 Legacy.

Great cars and always hankered after a Spec B but put off by the consumption. That said I only average 30mpg in the 2.0 which it must be said is underpowered - I would happily exchange a 5mpg deficit for that flat 6 engine.

Parts are expensive if you buy from a dealer, but don't - use ICP / Blue Print. I've just done the full cam belt with a Blue print kit and it cost me £175 including all idlers and tensioner - the bearings were all Japanese manufacture as was the belt.

They eat drop links and bushes but they are cheap to buy and replace.

Don't pay £1,800 for a Subaru exhaust - get a custom made stainless system for around £500.

Love them, there's a really special feel to them.

Keep being tempted by a JDM twin scroll




lord trumpton

7,380 posts

126 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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edh said:
It's my car!

Yes it is a cassette player, and an in-dash 6 CD changer - and bluetooth hands free & music player, so covers most bases..
(I have two flat 6 engined cars with cassette players at the moment smile )

Yes it's done nearly 30 mpg over 6k miles (29.4 on the OBC) and will cruise at 33-34 mpg on the motorway

Ed
Is this Ed Hall?

edh

3,498 posts

269 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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lord trumpton said:
Is this Ed Hall?
No, doe he have excellent taste in cars as well?

cailean

917 posts

173 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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I have an 09 (facelifted) one and using the SI drive in 'I' can easily get 36-38 cruising on the motorway. Lovely car, very smooth engine, parts always easy to get, mind you in 3 years I haven't actually bought any non service parts...