RE: New Porsche 911 Cabriolet unveiled
Discussion
RE "... the shorter and stiffer springs lowering ride height by 10mm and, in tandem with hardened front and rear anti-roll-bars, providing a "more neutral feel on the road".
Neutral feel eh? I drove a 450 brake GTS Cabrio 2 months ago and it felt comfy after 2 hours of driving. Challenging it is not. If I'd own one I'd be bored within 2 months...
Anyways, about that bum: Porsche 911 Beyonce...
Neutral feel eh? I drove a 450 brake GTS Cabrio 2 months ago and it felt comfy after 2 hours of driving. Challenging it is not. If I'd own one I'd be bored within 2 months...
Anyways, about that bum: Porsche 911 Beyonce...
James May summed up the 911 well in his 'cars of the people' program.
He compared TVR to Porsche. On one hand you had TVR the innovators, the forward thinkers with the exciting and high performance machines and on the other hand Porsche who have just rehashed the same boring, relatively slow and backwards design over the years.
But look where they are now. No TVR and Porsche who are a massive success churning out 911 after 911.
Its success shows what we really want, familiarity, dull but dependable and the 911 is that all over.
I have no love or hate for it. However £100K is too much money for dull and dependable.
He compared TVR to Porsche. On one hand you had TVR the innovators, the forward thinkers with the exciting and high performance machines and on the other hand Porsche who have just rehashed the same boring, relatively slow and backwards design over the years.
But look where they are now. No TVR and Porsche who are a massive success churning out 911 after 911.
Its success shows what we really want, familiarity, dull but dependable and the 911 is that all over.
I have no love or hate for it. However £100K is too much money for dull and dependable.
Dale487 said:
HighwayStar said:
redroadster said:
Twice price of boxster but not twice as good .
For almost 2 back seats and 2 additional cylinders 
I've never really been a fan of the 911 but I quite like the 991 as a car to admire... The 992 has grown on me. Not a car I'd want to own though.
I'll stick with my Cayman.
Driving roof down adds a dimension to any car. I assume those with hate for this generally don’t care for convertibles? I think this looks great, as did the 991 cab.
The for the ladies comments are laughable. Driving a convertible has gone from niche, to high fashion, to naff since I’ve been driving- 30 years. Perhaps that bothers some.
Taking a new 911 cab on a road trip, assuming interesting roads, would be far more immersive for me than doing the same trip, trapped in an air conditioned metal box.
The for the ladies comments are laughable. Driving a convertible has gone from niche, to high fashion, to naff since I’ve been driving- 30 years. Perhaps that bothers some.
Taking a new 911 cab on a road trip, assuming interesting roads, would be far more immersive for me than doing the same trip, trapped in an air conditioned metal box.
Looking back at 996, 997 and 991 cabrios, they're the ones that are hard to shift on the secondhand market - particularly bad are 996's or 997.1's with tiptronic slushboxes. I'm looking at this 992, and I can't see it going any other way. The coupe will be the one to have for any self-respecting pistonhead, and the cabrio will be driven by non-car people (insert a demograph of your choice - footballer, domestic engineer or 2019 stockbroker equivalent spring to mind).
I rather like that, hint of 911 Speedster about it.
Its a lot of money but that's what they cost, I cant afford one and if I had 110k sat round I am not sure I would buy one but I can certainly see why someone would.
The reason they sell if because they are really good, they arent dull really are they, fast, well made convertibles generally arent dull, a Skoda Octavia Greenline is a bit dull (but does the hob very well) so not sure I would call one of these dull. Sat from behind a keyboard grousing about it is different to going and buying one and enjoying it like the people who buy them will, am sure a 911 GT something is more exciting but not everyone wants a fixed roof, a roll cage and all that stuff. This would be a fantastic car to own.
Going on about TVR as innovators and Porsche being predictable, partially true but with Porsche the innovation goes on under the skin and they stick to a bit of a standard look, TVR were wild on the styling side but stuck to a tried and tested construction method, and anyway plenty of moaning about the new TVR.
Its a lot of money but that's what they cost, I cant afford one and if I had 110k sat round I am not sure I would buy one but I can certainly see why someone would.
The reason they sell if because they are really good, they arent dull really are they, fast, well made convertibles generally arent dull, a Skoda Octavia Greenline is a bit dull (but does the hob very well) so not sure I would call one of these dull. Sat from behind a keyboard grousing about it is different to going and buying one and enjoying it like the people who buy them will, am sure a 911 GT something is more exciting but not everyone wants a fixed roof, a roll cage and all that stuff. This would be a fantastic car to own.
Going on about TVR as innovators and Porsche being predictable, partially true but with Porsche the innovation goes on under the skin and they stick to a bit of a standard look, TVR were wild on the styling side but stuck to a tried and tested construction method, and anyway plenty of moaning about the new TVR.
numtumfutunch said:
Id rather have a Targa
I have to agree. I have a real fondness for the 911 despite in my younger years of driving it being a car I was never really fussed by. I suppose in my mind that 911 isn't necessarily the prettiest car but they often look purposeful and designed for driving enjoyment. So I suppose a convertible detracts from that and puts me off a bit. All that aside, I think the new 911 looks great.
highway said:
Driving roof down adds a dimension to any car. I assume those with hate for this generally don’t care for convertibles? I think this looks great, as did the 991 cab.
The for the ladies comments are laughable. Driving a convertible has gone from niche, to high fashion, to naff since I’ve been driving- 30 years. Perhaps that bothers some.
Taking a new 911 cab on a road trip, assuming interesting roads, would be far more immersive for me than doing the same trip, trapped in an air conditioned metal box.
I agree. If this is a car you want to rag at 9/10ths on track then maybe, but presumably for most people it won’t be. The for the ladies comments are laughable. Driving a convertible has gone from niche, to high fashion, to naff since I’ve been driving- 30 years. Perhaps that bothers some.
Taking a new 911 cab on a road trip, assuming interesting roads, would be far more immersive for me than doing the same trip, trapped in an air conditioned metal box.
It’ll still be better to drive than 99% of cars on the road id suspect.
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